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The commoners thread: Discussing Ultima's "On the Many, Many Incoherences of the Tiering System"

Agnaa said:
Oh, also, this tale just got dropped, and is currently sitting at +9. It brings up logically possible/impossible worlds, describing them as aspects of the narrative stack, uses Russel's Paradox to dismiss the idea of hyper-narratives, and declares a Supreme Author as the prime mover of the chain of author-narratives. It's simply absurd to claim that SCP can't have the "esoteric philosophical language" needed for this new tiering system. Whether stuff like this actually ends up scaling to someone is just a matter of chance.
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Very convenient timing !!
 
Iiliminal said:
The Creator had countless aspects, avatars, incarnations, and manifestations across all of the infinite layers of existence, innumerable layers of nonexistence, and the numberless layers of transcendent reality beyond the conceptual duality and distinction between existence and nonexistence.

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All of this for my kittens to annihilate him beyond the very meaning of difficulty
 
Lord_Farquaad69420 said:
this, if scp was made for powerscaling, why tf does it not have a monad

also most of scp's are literal fcking objects
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That's a pretty bad argument, considering that the main distinction between 1-A transduality and tier 0 transduality is literally "things scale above this character", and SCP obviously has transdual characters. It also seems pretty common for SCPs to be tiered the way they are exclusively because they have scaling chains beyond other SCPs. That's obviously not unique to SCP, but imagine a verse that has a reputation of hype-beasting their own characters consistently to make them more and more powerful, by using prior characters as a starting point. Even if the reputation is undeserved, it's not really difficult to come to the conclusion "the only thing stopping this verse from being tier 0 is the fact that the plethora of authors writing for it want to one-up each other's characters " which nonetheless supports the notion that it's written for the purpose of powerscaling. It doesn't even have to be for VSBW powerscaling specifically. There are plenty of other tiering systems.
 
Ben_CleverName said:
That's a pretty bad argument, considering that the main distinction between 1-A transduality and tier 0 transduality is literally "things scale above this character", and SCP obviously has transdual characters. It also seems pretty common for SCPs to be tiered the way they are exclusively because they have scaling chains beyond other SCPs. That's obviously not unique to SCP, but imagine a verse that has a reputation of hype-beasting their own characters consistently to make them more and more powerful, by using prior characters as a starting point. Even if the reputation is undeserved, it's not really difficult to come to the conclusion "the only thing stopping this verse from being tier 0 is the fact that the plethora of authors writing for it want to one-up each other's characters " which nonetheless supports the notion that it's written for the purpose of powerscaling. It doesn't even have to be for VSBW powerscaling specifically. There are plenty of other tiering systems.
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Interesting paragraph.

This is a CSAP guy, everyone jump him!!
 
Ben_CleverName said:
That's a pretty bad argument, considering that the main distinction between 1-A transduality and tier 0 transduality is literally "things scale above this character", and SCP obviously has transdual characters. It also seems pretty common for SCPs to be tiered the way they are exclusively because they have scaling chains beyond other SCPs. That's obviously not unique to SCP, but imagine a verse that has a reputation of hype-beasting their own characters consistently to make them more and more powerful, by using prior characters as a starting point. Even if the reputation is undeserved, it's not really difficult to come to the conclusion "the only thing stopping this verse from being tier 0 is the fact that the plethora of authors writing for it want to one-up each other's characters " which nonetheless supports the notion that it's written for the purpose of powerscaling. It doesn't even have to be for VSBW powerscaling specifically. There are plenty of other tiering systems.
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@Sir_Ovens @Saikou_The_Lewd_King
 
Agnaa said:
Very weird. Last I checked, it was still at a positive rating, and that deletion wasn't announced in the usual thread.
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Thinking about it more, that probably means it was deleted by its author. Guess we'll have to wait to see what that implies.
 
1-A revision is allowed?

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