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The commoners thread: Discussing Ultima's "On the Many, Many Incoherences of the Tiering System"
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IdiosyncraticLawyer
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Let's work to get https://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/chaoskampf-and-creation deleted as well.
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The Creator had countless aspects, avatars, incarnations, and manifestations across all of the infinite layers of existence, innumerable layers of nonexistence, and the numberless layers of transcendent reality beyond the conceptual duality and distinction between existence and nonexistence.
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So realThe Creator had countless aspects, avatars, incarnations, and manifestations across all of the infinite layers of existence, innumerable layers of nonexistence, and the numberless layers of transcendent reality beyond the conceptual duality and distinction between existence and nonexistence.
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All of this for my kittens to annihilate him beyond the very meaning of difficultyThe Creator had countless aspects, avatars, incarnations, and manifestations across all of the infinite layers of existence, innumerable layers of nonexistence, and the numberless layers of transcendent reality beyond the conceptual duality and distinction between existence and nonexistence.
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The VSBslop is realThe Creator had countless aspects, avatars, incarnations, and manifestations across all of the infinite layers of existence, innumerable layers of nonexistence, and the numberless layers of transcendent reality beyond the conceptual duality and distinction between existence and nonexistence.
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I read the tale and I like that it tried to debunk the other tale. Unlike the other one, it got deleted lol.
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That's a pretty bad argument, considering that the main distinction between 1-A transduality and tier 0 transduality is literally "things scale above this character", and SCP obviously has transdual characters. It also seems pretty common for SCPs to be tiered the way they are exclusively because they have scaling chains beyond other SCPs. That's obviously not unique to SCP, but imagine a verse that has a reputation of hype-beasting their own characters consistently to make them more and more powerful, by using prior characters as a starting point. Even if the reputation is undeserved, it's not really difficult to come to the conclusion "the only thing stopping this verse from being tier 0 is the fact that the plethora of authors writing for it want to one-up each other's characters " which nonetheless supports the notion that it's written for the purpose of powerscaling. It doesn't even have to be for VSBW powerscaling specifically. There are plenty of other tiering systems.
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Time to bring in popcorn, this is gonna be interesting
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I don't think you need to tag them literally every time a sentiment like this is even remotely expressed...
That just starts to become bothersome, I'd imagine.
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Yeah I genuinely don't care to argue it, if people are bothered by what I said that's more their problem than mine. I wasn't even arguing SCP should be deleted, just that the particular argument being made there wasn't particularly convincing.
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So true CSAP invalidates everything I say I sometimes forget that
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Very weird. Last I checked, it was still at a positive rating, and that deletion wasn't announced in the usual thread.
Are you implying you had some hand in getting it deleted?
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No. I have a Wikidot account, but I'm not registered with SCP.
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Thinking about it more, that probably means it was deleted by its author. Guess we'll have to wait to see what that implies.
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Djoric said some negative things about the modal realism page but probably didnt have a hand in it since he's just an author even if a pretty influential one in SCP.
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Quite a few people do, from what I've seen.
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What is the next thread topic?
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That’s a spoiler. I cannot say for that’s confidential information.
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Just say you don't know lil bro.
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That’s not in my vocabulary. I know when Ultima will post, but I prefer to keep the hype as real as possible.
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(knows something not even Ultima knows)
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1-A revision is allowed?
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Gao Chuan (Yin Tian Shen Yin)
Gao Chuan, originally hailing from Earth, was unexpectedly transported to an unknown world under mysterious circumstances. In this new realm, he was lucky enough to stumbled upon a core, a repository of ancient wisdom of long forgotten age that many believed was destroyed. With this core...
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I thought it was Low 1-A, but I wasn't sure. Every World has an Origin, which is Low 1-A, it's just normally unreachable. The Multiverse contains every world and is infinite, so it didn't make sense otherwise. I see. If the multiverse has something like time or timeline, it would mean...
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Ultima Reality/thing
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I didn’t think Type IV Multiverses at their highest qualified for High 1-A+ . I thought it would’ve been like, Low 1-A.
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I believe it was presented as an explanation. Y'know, to explain something with a simpler term. After all, the sandbox itself already says that the ultimate ensemble is Low 1-A
Just realized I read the sandbox with closed eyes
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Yeah. I’m treating tier 0 as big participation trophy. High 1A is what’s interesting to me.
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Low 1-A is for Type IV Multiverses that only encompass all possible multiverse involving mathematics and dimensions and non-ontological things. High 1-A+ is Type IV Multiverses that is proven to include ontological things like Reality-Fiction and 1-A things.I believe it was presented as an explanation. Y'know, to explain something with a simpler term. After all, the sandbox itself already says that the ultimate ensemble is Low 1-A
Just realized I read the sandbox with closed eyes
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Therefore my words about reading the sandbox with closed eyes
Welp, so much for my favorite thing to be scaled this high
Welp, so much for my favorite thing to be scaled this high
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Well, the only thing I want to know is, will Yogiri become High 1-A+ via the ultimate ensemble statements in his verse or will he stay at 1-A because of the lack of other things that make up for type IV?
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Where would non-metric spaces fit here?
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