Marvel Comics Cosmology (World Hierarchy) Revision

[VeryGoofyToddler2]

1. They're indicated to be Beyonders as stated on the profile.

This theory that Loki had is only a theory and in the end, we see they aren't Beyonders. They were Elder Gods.

2. Elder Gods, according to Ultima, scale to the True Phoenix Force/White Hot Room

Can you requote what he said?

 

[Xavis10]

So Those who sit above in Shadows or Elder Gods are one layer? Since Loki being above them implies an additional layer.

Do we know if he outright 'dwarfs' them for it to be an additional layer? Or is he just "really strong" compared to TWSAIS?

Yeah, probably 1-A possibly High 1-A.

This is just my opinion, but I think 1-A fits best. If it ended up as High 1-A we'd have a lot of other High 1-A, like the omniversal abstracts, which doesn't really seem right.

 

[VeryGoofyToddler2]

Do we know if he outright 'dwarfs' them for it to be an additional layer? Or is he just "really strong" compared to TWSAIS?

Loki at the very least scales to them. Given his power over narratives can extend beyond the Multiversal Eternity, its a given that he scales that much higher. Though, the relationship is hardly portrayed as dwarfing them completely that's fine.

This is just my opinion, but I think 1-A fits best. If it ended up as High 1-A we'd have a lot of other High 1-A, like the omniversal abstracts, which doesn't really seem right.

No, the High 1-A purely is his role as the storyteller and the ability to go beyond the House of Ideas.

 

[ObberGobb]

Loki at the very least scales to them. Given his power over narratives can extend beyond the Multiversal Eternity, its a given that he scales that much higher. Though, the relationship is hardly portrayed as dwarfing them completely that's fine.

No, the High 1-A purely is his role as the storyteller and the ability to go beyond the House of Ideas.

So would God of Stories Loki and Rune King Thor roughly scale to the same level, as they both upscale TWSAIS?

 

[Eseseso]

So would God of Stories Loki and Rune King Thor roughly scale to the same level, as they both upscale TWSAIS?

Probably, though GoS Loki doesn't have a page yet. Heck, Ikol Loki in general sadly doesn't have any page.

 

[VeryGoofyToddler2]

So would God of Stories Loki and Rune King Thor roughly scale to the same level, as they both upscale TWSAIS?

I'm not in any implication Rune King Thor is that much weaker TWSAIS but they are stronger for sure. He couldn't get rid of them, stop the fates, nor end the cycles of Ragnarok. He had to destroy the looks of the fates to severe their connection on feeding through the cycles. Even then they called him puny and at best referred to him a peer but that difference isn't too large. So the Rune King Thor upscaling them is just plainly that TWSIAS are somewhat more powerful to a degree but not that large.

As for Loki, his potential goes far beyond the shadow gods. Though, as just a being with incredible powers he does scale lower but like Thor not to an unfathomable amount compared to TWSIAS.

In short, they're all the same tier.

 

[VeryGoofyToddler2]

This weekend, most likely.

Any updates?

 

[Eseseso]

Any updates?

My apologies, life has been busy, I'll try to remember to apply the downgrades this upcoming weekend.

 

[Eseseso]

All the downgrades have been implemented, this can be closed.

 

[AndrewBennet]

bump

 

[Antvasima]

Thank you to everybody who helped out here.