STRONGEST One-Punch Man Discussion Thread!

[darkphantom9805]

We don't know enough about the zero punch's properties to say what it can and cannot do. Maybe some of the usual effects were cancelled out by the time travel. Maybe the damage was completely soaked up by Garou's powerful vessel.

O really then do we know enough about this punch that sent garou from space down the the surface of the earth and cracked his shell his face and had him bleeding and this is canonically the strongest punch saitama has ever done post IO and left garou bleeding and cracked up

Like there was absolutely no reason for your reply when you know I’m right

Hell, we don't even know if the zero punch's power was registered by Garou's growth factor and then later incorporated into Void in some way post-absorption.

again this is pointless to argue dc isn’t an argument in OPM lol I don’t need to bring up how many characters attacks cause very little environmental damage

 

[darkphantom9805]

I'm trying, only problem I do not know how to send an image in this site like I do with discord and telegram

I just went back and read it doesn’t ever say they fused it say perhaps the reason not confirmed was because involvement of his future self which is saying because his future self gave saitama the ability to change the future and stop him before becoming the evil nothing ever implies they fused

 

[WizardPowers101]

Is this actually an argument my guy put effort into your replies please the DC is never consistent in any verse the punch that one shot cosmic garou should’ve killed everyone on earth and decimated the planet instead it sent garou like 5 feet doing no damage to the surroundings

In fact the punch that beat future garou literally barely did any damage to earth despite him going from space all the way to the surface and hitting hard enough to damage garou in the process

Are you actually being serious? this is basic physics. When landing towards something at high velocities, even in most fictional media, it depicts a high level of DC because thats how impact-loading works.

This comparsion is NOT relevant because what you’re showing is striking strength, which fiction does not showcase as DC because obviously characters who SIMPLY PUNCH stuff despite showing great amount of strength are not going to destroy everything around them

 

[WizardPowers101]

Are you actually being serious? this is basic physics. When landing towards something at high velocities, even in most fictional media, it depicts a high level of DC because thats how impact-loading works.

This comparsion is NOT relevant because what you’re showing is striking strength, which fiction does not showcase as DC because obviously characters who SIMPLY PUNCH stuff despite showing great amount of strength are not going to destroy everything around them

However, im not saying when Saitama lands towards something or Garou or EV or whoever, they should show DC, but it is IMPORTANT to consider to logicality of the feat down, otherwise we will dismiss it as such and not ignore it as fiction being fiction

 

[AmongUsAboveUsBelow]

O really then do we know enough about this punch that sent garou from space down the the surface of the earth and cracked his shell his face and had him bleeding and this is canonically the strongest punch saitama has ever done post IO and left garou bleeding and cracked up

Like there was absolutely no reason for your reply when you know I’m right


again this is pointless to argue dc isn’t an argument in OPM lol I don’t need to bring up how many characters attacks cause very little environmental damage

It could actually be a lot simpler, if you're gonna go down that route. Saitama has mastered his movements to such a high degree, he can control the extent of his shockwaves. He's already been shown to do similar stuff in the past like redirection and expertly pulled punches.

 

[WizardPowers101]

However, im not saying when Saitama lands towards something or Garou or EV or whoever, they should show DC, but it is IMPORTANT to consider to logicality of the feat down, otherwise we will dismiss it as such and not ignore it as fiction being fiction

I already brought up VERY good points on how it would make no sense for EV to just..land from the edge of the universe and him ending up crashing a few meters in the ground.

 

[MrTayman616]

Wdym absorb the impact? The impact would spread out not….go back in?

just an example. I mean like it doesn't cause the DC it should cause. Like they can control how strong the impact will be even when they move at MFTL speeds.

 

[MrTayman616]

I already brought up VERY good points on how it would make no sense for EV to just..land from the edge of the universe and him ending up crashing a few meters in the ground.

Empty Void is not allowed to destroy the planet though, or anything similar.

 

[darkphantom9805]

It could actually be a lot simpler, if you're gonna go down that route. Saitama has mastered his movements to such a high degree, he can control the extent of his shockwaves. He's already been shown to do similar stuff in the past like redirection and expertly pulled punches.

He can’t do anything of that sort saitama can’t actually control his shock waves nor is that stated he just punches and holds back that’s it either way your wrong dc and Ap aren’t the same there isn’t much of an argument here

 

[WizardPowers101]

Empty Void is not allowed to destroy the planet though, or anything similar.

Do you think he has any control of him falling, practically instantaneously??? It doesn’t matter if hes not allowed or that he doesn’t want to, what happened to EV if we went with this interpretation would’ve realistically destroyed it. This doesn’t mean EV destroyed the earth Lmao, it was what happened to him that did it

 

[darkphantom9805]

Are you actually being serious? this is basic physics. When landing towards something at high velocities, even in most fictional media, it depicts a high level of DC because thats how impact-loading works.

Is this a joke or did you actually just reply with this? like dude just stop your arguments get worse and worse the guy who has enough power to evaporate the planet 100 times over punches garou with enough strength to one shot him does absolutely 0 environmental damage and sends him 5 feet there is no basic physics DC and Ap aren’t the same get over it that’s how it is it’s like that in 99.8% fictional media cosmic characters attack’s causing little environmental damage

This comparsion is NOT relevant because what you’re showing is striking strength, which fiction does not showcase as DC because obviously characters who SIMPLY PUNCH stuff despite showing great amount of strength are not going to destroy everything around them

It’s relevant because it debunks your argument of why they didn’t destroy planets at those speed because it’s plot the same reason most of fiction doesn’t show that stuff nor DC it’s never consistent and never will be it’s hard to tell a story if the environment is constantly being destroyed form every attack

 

[MrTayman616]

Do you think he has any control of him falling, practically instantaneously??? It doesn’t matter if hes not allowed or that he doesn’t want to, what happened to EV if we went with this interpretation would’ve realistically destroyed it. This doesn’t mean EV destroyed the earth Lmao, it was what happened to him that did it

OOOH. for a second I read it as DS rather than EV.

Anyway, like i said there are many instances where they hit/clash to other planets at light speed, mftl+ speeds and etc. in my opinion, it's like how you hit the character with uni attacks yet only he takes damage.

 

[AmongUsAboveUsBelow]

He can’t do anything of that sort saitama can’t actually control his shock waves nor is that stated he just punches and holds back that’s it either way your wrong dc and Ap aren’t the same there isn’t much of an argument here

"He can't control his shockwaves" after me bringing up examples of him having extraordinary body and power output control. Far as I'm concerned it's still a better explanation than "It's a silly fighting manga, it's not supposed to make sense" type arguments.

 

[Entity]

When did the narrator ever say that post the scan

I am going to write down it because I still do not understand how to send images.

Garo couldn't
understand
the mysterious
knockout punch
or the loss of his
"divine power"...

...but he had accepted it.

Perphas it was because
his future self
had instigated thi result,
but he didn't know that

Hoping the site I'm using has the right translation, I would say that adding the last part if it is reffered to the fact that his future self helped Saitama in travelling back in time would be completely useless expecially adding the perphas at the beginning since we saw what happened. What I say is that the "Perphas it was because his future self had instigated this result" is referred to Garou accepting what happened without fighting back

 

[MrTayman616]

I am going to write down it because I still do not understand how to send images.

Garo couldn't
understand
the mysterious
knockout punch
or the loss of his
"divine power"...

...but he had accepted it.

Perphas it was because
his future self
had instigated thi result,
but he didn't know that

Hoping the site I'm using has the right translation, I would say that adding the last part if it is reffered to the fact that his future self helped Saitama in travelling back in time would be completely useless expecially adding the perphas at the beginning since we saw what happened. What I say is that the "Perphas it was because his future self had instigated this result" is referred to Garou accepting what happened without fighting back

just copy the images with right click and use ctrl+v. or use links.

 

[darkphantom9805]

"He can't control his shockwaves" after me bringing up examples of him having extraordinary body and power output control. Far as I'm concerned it's still a better explanation than "It's a silly fighting manga, it's not supposed to make sense" type arguments.

You didn’t bring up any example you just stated he could those things again the only thing saitama actually controls in verse is his strength in each punch this isn’t like Saitama is punching full force but can controls his shockwaves so that they never shoot out they happen when the story wants them to happen there is no statement that he ever controls his own shockwaves or dc or the power of his punches

 

[WizardPowers101]

OOOH. for a second I read it as DS rather than EV.

Anyway, like i said there are many instances where they hit/clash to other planets at light speed, mftl+ speeds and etc. in my opinion, it's like how you hit the character with uni attacks yet only he takes damage.

Guess I’ll use the KE end for Orochi’s feat (Im joking, obviously)

 

[Entity]

just copy the images with right click and use ctrl+v. or use links.

I'm on mobile right now

 

[AmongUsAboveUsBelow]

You didn’t bring up any example you just stated he could those things again the only thing saitama actually controls in verse is his strength in each punch this isn’t like Saitama is punching full force but can controls his shockwaves so that they never shoot out they happen when the story wants them to happen there is no statement that he ever controls his own shockwaves or dc or the power of his punches

I never said there was blatant evidence for shockwave control. I'm brainstorming for something plausible, and you're taking it too seriously.

Just because someone can propose an idea, doesn't automatically mean they treat it as fact.

 

[darkphantom9805]

Perphas it was because
his future self
had instigated thi result,
but he didn't know that

Hoping the site I'm using has the right translation, I would say that adding the last part if it is reffered to the fact that his future self helped Saitama in travelling back in time would be completely useless expecially adding the perphas at the beginning since we saw what happened. What I say is that the "Perphas it was because his future self had instigated this result" is referred to Garou accepting what happened without fighting back

I’d like to point out it’s head canon to assume they fused and nothing says they did not even the narrator hes saying that future garou helped saitama changed the future and by extension past garou its literally stated

Garou sent saitama back in time to defeat his past self to stop that ominous future which helps past garou not become the ominous future he didn’t want to become who kills everything even the 1 kid he didn’t want to die

 

[WizardPowers101]

OOOH. for a second I read it as DS rather than EV.

Anyway, like i said there are many instances where they hit/clash to other planets at light speed, mftl+ speeds and etc. in my opinion, it's like how you hit the character with uni attacks yet only he takes damage.

But to reply to this more seriously: This again, isn’t really comparable to what we see in 209. A character PUNCHING obv won’t depict him destroying the entire spacetime unless shown otherwise to be the case (like, he has some energy in his fast that has good DC). Newton’s laws explain this very well

 

[MrTayman616]

But to reply to this more seriously: This again, isn’t really comparable to what we see in 209. A character PUNCHING obv won’t depict him destroying the entire spacetime unless shown otherwise to be the case (like, he has some energy in his fast that has good DC). Newton’s laws explain this very well

Boros sent Saitama to moon at near light speed, the damage Saitama caused to the moon is like a hole with one meter depth , Saitama and Garou hit IO at at least MFTL speed (definitely mftl+). Nearly nothing. OPM shows it constantly.

 

[WizardPowers101]

Boros sent Saitama to moon at near light speed, the damage Saitama caused to the moon is like a hole with one meter depth , Saitama and Garou hit IO at at least MFTL speed (definitely mftl+). Nearly nothing. OPM shows it constantly.

would this to be affirming that the DS didn’t cut space and then emanate down from that hole (The twinkle in the sky being the hole)

 

[Alexander]

It could actually be a lot simpler, if you're gonna go down that route. Saitama has mastered his movements to such a high degree, he can control the extent of his shockwaves. He's already been shown to do similar stuff in the past like redirection and expertly pulled punches.

Or launch a Serious punch and only obliterate Elder centipede

 

[EnderLord8]

I'm gone for 1 and a half days and the thread gets 8 pages long, was there anything new I missed?

 

[Alexander]

I'm gone for 1 and a half days and the thread gets 8 pages long, was there anything new I missed?

Just a guy who apparently lacks fiction knowledge

 

[EnderLord8]

So I'm not going to read the last 8 pages, I'm not going to waste this time

 

[AmongUsAboveUsBelow]

Or launch a Serious punch and only obliterate Elder centipede

It's interesting to think about how it all works, really. Him having the potential to do something like that wouldn't surprise me given he already broke the 4th wall and interacted with non-physical objects. So even if he can't directly control the shockwaves, he's got excellent control over the trajectory and what happens during impact.

 

[MrTayman616]

would this to be affirming that the DS didn’t cut space and then emanate down from that hole (The twinkle in the sky being the hole)

It does cut space. that is definite. ignores energy and size, and Empty Void himself states it very clearly. also the effects and aftermath of the slash also shows it.

For the hole, Blast is able to surpass Void's teleportation speed, that alone should be enough for him to escape from DS. Yet it's stated Blast can only evade it as long as he has this sphere type teleportation. Also we see EV attacking from seemingly an universal distance. at the very least, It's landing speed should be MFTL+. From the bubbles perspective, it can get closer later or change perspective but it shouldn't change the result (Also it's changing the perspective even when he was seemingly attacking from an universal distance can imply it's ability to ignore distance as well).

It's landing speed can even be infinite speed, considering the statements of how it ignores distance, how only Blast's self teleportation can evade it, also might be wrong but considering how we saw the multiverse in the hyperspace, Genos's explanation, The statement of how God's power can ignore distance, energy and size and how zero punch is God's power as well. If Saitama was in the hyperspace and watching the divergence of the timelines here caused by his movement backwards in time (Also he was still hearing things correctly like how Void did.), If those bubbles are universes (diverged timelines) same as how Empty Void views them, Dimensional Slash while landing might have infinite speed since like Saitama's punch, It should just appear there.

 

[Worthless]

I already brought up VERY good points on how it would make no sense for EV to just..land from the edge of the universe and him ending up crashing a few meters in the ground.

Because it's not true to begin with, that's why it doesn't make sense. Also you are wrong about the twinkle being the portal. In any and every anime you watch, the twinkle is portrayed as "something incoming" rather than anything else, which is also depicted in OPM itself. But you are right about everything else

 

[AmongUsAboveUsBelow]

It does cut space. that is definite. ignores energy and size, and Empty Void himself states it very clearly. also the effects and aftermath of the slash also shows it.

For the hole, Blast is able to surpass Void's teleportation speed, that alone should be enough for him to escape from DS. Yet it's stated Blast can only evade it as long as he has this sphere type teleportation. Also we see EV attacking from seemingly an universal distance. at the very least, It's landing speed should be MFTL+. From the bubbles perspective, it can get closer later or change perspective but it shouldn't change the result (Also it's changing the perspective even when he was seemingly attacking from an universal distance can imply it's ability to ignore distance as well).

It's landing speed can even be infinite speed, considering the statements of how it ignores distance, how only Blast's self teleportation can evade it, also might be wrong but considering how we saw the multiverse in the hyperspace, Genos's explanation, The statement of how God's power can ignore distance, energy and size and how zero punch is God's power as well. If Saitama was in the hyperspace and watching the divergence of the timelines here caused by his movement backwards in time (Also he was still hearing things correctly like how Void did.), If those bubbles are universes (diverged timelines) same as how Empty Void views them, Dimensional Slash while landing might have infinite speed since like Saitama's punch, It should just appear there.

The panel you've linked would be great if it wasn't for the fact we have a second panel showing a zoomed in perspective. That's what is currently creating confusion on the distance.

 

[MrTayman616]

The panel you've linked would be great if it wasn't for the fact we have a second panel showing a zoomed in perspective. That's what is currently creating confusion on the distance.

The perspective changes. There was seemingly an universal distance, it can mean the slash ignored all those distances and hit earth, or EV hit and after that, perspective changed following the sword. either way should be fine for MFTL+ or infinite i think. other statements also support it.

 

[Coomandar]

I’d like to point out it’s head canon to assume they fused and nothing says they did not even the narrator hes saying that future garou helped saitama changed the future and by extension past garou its literally stated

Garou sent saitama back in time to defeat his past self to stop that ominous future which helps past garou not become the ominous future he didn’t want to become who kills everything even the 1 kid he didn’t want to die

honestly, Garou didnt want to kill anyone.

He just got too corrupted

 

[Alexander]

The panel you've linked would be great if it wasn't for the fact we have a second panel showing a zoomed in perspective. That's what is currently creating confusion on the distance.

Which i don't think it should, because you can just cover it up by "is for the audience to see"

 

[Tural2004]

The thread hasn't been this active for a while. Imagine if we come to a conclusion only for the next chapter to immediately disprove it with a simple statement

 

[darkphantom9805]

The next chapter won’t likely have anything to do with the dimension slash because his blades are gone now so he can’t use them

 

[Coomandar]

The thread hasn't been this active for a while. Imagine if we come to a conclusion only for the next chapter to immediately disprove it with a simple statement

we are used to it, wont be any surprise

 

[AmongUsAboveUsBelow]

The perspective changes. There was seemingly an universal distance, it can mean the slash ignored all those distances and hit earth, or EV hit and after that, perspective changed following the sword. either way should be fine for MFTL+ or infinite i think. other statements also support it.

Hmm, maybe him zooming in and out is an independent action from the range itself? Although there is no evidence for right now that shows him doing that consciously. I just can't picture it any other way than that going off of this logic.

 

[ReusedOil]

edit: I THINK I FIGURED IT OUT LET ME COOK

Wait, we might be looking at it the wrong way here. Instead of focusing on where the swords appeared or how fast it travells, lets instead consider what the sword's properties actually are. If we assume that the hyperverse dimension is outside the universe's causalty, and those swords carry over that ability instead of losing it once entering realspace... this means that any and all things that affect causalty, the swords simply ignore.

Time for example, affect causalty/a part of it. To say that time passed for the sword to travel, is to say that the causalty of the universe affected the swords.

Like yes we see the swords "moving", but we shouldn't think that for the sword, time is passing. Universe time doesn't apply to hyperspace. The swords are moving under their own "time". Like the swords could be moving at a snail's pace but from anyone elses perspective; real space; the swords move instantly.

based on the lack of any disagreements, EVERYONE agrees with my theory right?

 

[WizardPowers101]

It does cut space. that is definite. ignores energy and size, and Empty Void himself states it very clearly. also the effects and aftermath of the slash also shows it.

For the hole, Blast is able to surpass Void's teleportation speed, that alone should be enough for him to escape from DS.

How is DS ignoring distance and EV PREPARING to teleport away with his technique comparable??

Yet it's stated Blast can only evade it as long as he has this sphere type teleportation. Also we see EV attacking from seemingly an universal distance. at the very least, It's landing speed should be MFTL+. From the bubbles perspective, it can get closer later or change perspective but it shouldn't change the result (Also it's changing the perspective even when he was seemingly attacking from an universal distance can imply it's ability to ignore distance as well).

Where is that ever stated???
Also EV does not attack from a Universal distance. He is literally outside of the universe. Attacking from another dimension entirely is already infinite speed, but once its inside the Universe, it would be affected by causality…as the blade is no longer outside of the universe’s cause and effect, therefore time taking precedent. Although you are happy to disagree on this point if you wish.

It's landing speed can even be infinite speed, considering the statements of how it ignores distance, how only Blast's self teleportation can evade it, also might be wrong but considering how we saw the multiverse in the hyperspace, Genos's explanation, The statement of how God's power can ignore distance, energy and size and how zero punch is God's power as well.

Sure.

If Saitama was in the hyperspace and watching the divergence of the timelines here caused by his movement backwards in time (Also he was still hearing things correctly like how Void did.), If those bubbles are universes (diverged timelines) same as how Empty Void views them, Dimensional Slash while landing might have infinite speed since like Saitama's punch, It should just appear there.

I’m not denying the legitimacy of DS’ ability, but Saitama didn’t see other timelines when he was TRAVELING BACK IN TIME. (ahem)

He was simply seeing the past events that occurred while on I.o. Same with Genos.