Rule Violation Reports (New forum)

[Catzlaflame]

I can, the things he is saying are WRONG plot wise, he doesn't know what a soul or a core is, he doesn't know how skills work, he doesn't know anything verse wise. Still he keeps yapping. Just watch his last comment, complete nosense.
Edit: i can even explain why those things are nosense but idk if i can start yapping here

I should have worded that better; I am asking you to show that he is acting intentionally ignorant -- This is what would be report-worthy. Someone not knowing a series, and commenting on a thread about it is not a rule violation. Assuming what you're saying is true, and he is actually completely wrong (idk because Idk the verse), if he does genuinely believe in the things he is saying, then he has the right to express that. It becomes a problem if he doesn't actually believe the things he is saying, but is pretending to do so to disagree with the thread.

 

[Berga14]

if he does genuinely believe in the things he is saying, then he has the right to express that. It becomes a problem if he doesn't actually believe the things he is saying, but is pretending to do so to disagree with the thread.

Well both Code CCL and Astral sayd to him to at least learn what a soul is in Tensura, which is a thing that he can learn in 2 minutes from researching on this wiki or from the external fandom wiki and he know about that wiki as he used scan from it. So he at least isn't even trying.

 

[GarrixianXD]

Simply because someone doesn't know about a concept from a specific verse isn't even remotely considered irrational bias. The issue would rather lie on you, because you didn't explain that particular in-verse thing.

 

[Planck69]

Him having a specific understanding of a verse concept that doesn't mesh with the OP (or not having the full picture) isn't argument from ignorance, and certainly not a rule violation.

 

[Berga14]

The issue would rather lie on you, because you didn't explain that particular in-verse thing.

Dude, if you go to a crt of a verse you don't know you don't start yapping random things.
Also he is using scans from the LN and wiki of that verse. BUT apparently he doesn't know and doesn't try to know the most essential things to even try to understand the OP even thought they were explained and even thought he knew where to find those information. So he knows about the LN, he knows about the wiki BUT he ignores the explanation in the crt and doesn't search the answer for himself.
In the second link i sent there are like 4 pages of him yapping WRONG things even thought he kept getting answered and explanations.

 

[Berga14]

Him having a specific understanding of a verse concept that doesn't mesh with the OP

He doesn't understand how the most basic thing discussed in the OP works, so his comments are quite useless by defoult.

or not having the full picture)

He got answers. He used LN and WIKi scans, so he perfectly knows where to find those information or maybe he already knows those info and he is just ignoring them.
He also got explanations in the answers in the crt.
Funny how this isn't the first time that this happens and funny how he was one of the dudes that were routing for High Godly downgrade...

 

[Planck69]

He doesn't understand how the most basic thing discussed in the OP works, so his comments are quite useless by defoult.

He got answers. He used LN and WIKi scans, so he perfectly knows where to find those information or maybe he already knows those info and he is just ignoring them.
He also got explanations in the answers in the crt.
Funny how this isn't the first time that this happens and funny how he was one of the dudes that were routing for High Godly downgrade...

OK but none of these are rule breaking. He's even apparently using scans and verse information to argue his points. Can it be frustrating? Yes. Is it reportable? At least so far, no.

 

[Berga14]

He's even apparently using scans and verse information to argue his points.

That isn't a point in his favour when he leaves out the most essential things to even start debating in that kind of thread. He used the wiki, so he knows how to type "astral body" in it and still he decided to take the most useless scans, change the context and comment. If only he spent 5 minutes of his life to do researches then all that useless debete wouldn't have happened. But i guess that for you is okay to debat about what a soul can do without knowing what a soul is.

Can it be frustrating? Yes. Is it reportable? At least so far, no.

But i didnn't report him thought?
"Idk if this is enought for a report but anyway"
I just wanted to point out that that guy way of debating will lead (or his aimed) to clog the thread.
If people can write here about 1 message with the words "i disagree" then i can do the same with this metter.

Edit: also his comments aren't questions but claims.

 

[Astral_Trinity439]

I am asking you to show that he is acting intentionally ignorant

Could the following be enough for that?

1. He's sticking to the manga even though the LN takes priority over the manga due to Manga having clear visual limitations as well as less details compared to the LN, which I have pointed out earlier but he refuses to accept that.
2. He refuses to read the physiology pages, which are made for others to understand how the verse works, and instead goes on to make his own baseless assumptions off a few words, which he doesn't even know the meaning of how those words work or how special they are in-verse.
3. Argument from ignorance, I broke the conclusions down into steps and he still refuses to believe them [still claiming "it is less lethal"] when I clearly gave the scans that the power's lethality is not reduced earlier.
4. He's basing his arguments on "probably" assumptions and refuses to believe otherwise even tho I have made it clear, multiple times.

 

[Dog3352]

He's sticking to the manga even though the LN takes priority over the manga due to Manga having clear visual limitations as well as less details compared to the LN, which I have pointed out earlier but he refuses to accept that.

These are not visual limitations, it just doesn't have all the details that it has in the LN (monologue for example), I'm using the manga just for mere image illustration, to visually show how it happened, since there is no contradiction between the manga and the LN (at least not in this part).

He refuses to read the physiology pages, which are made for others to understand how the verse works, and instead goes on to make his own baseless assumptions off a few words, which he doesn't even know the meaning of how those words work or how special they are in-verse.

I never refused to read the page, I literally read it 3 times, and even said "even if you are right that "heart" refers to the core" in your response to that comment, I admitted that you are right.

Argument from ignorance, I broke the conclusions down into steps and he still refuses to believe them [still claiming "it is less lethal"] when I clearly gave the scans that the power's lethality is not reduced earlier.

It wasn't even at that point that I argued against your aegument, and I never claimed that the blow would be less lethal because it was weaker, but less fatal because Hinata would even try to leave parts of Rimuru's body "alive" to make sure he would not die, and because Hinata makes it clear several times that even though she used that move, she was trying hard not to kill Rimuru with it (not making him weaker, but preventing him from completely destroying Rimuru), so I'm not denying what you said.

He's basing his arguments on "probably" assumptions and refuses to believe otherwise even tho I have made it clear, multiple times.

A portion of their rebuttals also have no supporting evidence, particularly talking about the "sacrifice" thing.

 

[Astral_Trinity439]

These are not visual limitations, it just doesn't have all the details that it has in the LN (monologue for example), I'm using the manga as supporting evidence, since the manga's images don't contradict the LN at any point.

I didn't say Manga contradicts the LN, I said you using manga as the base of your argument instead of the LN is the problem.

I never refused to read the page, I literally read it 3 times, and even said "even if you are right that "heart" refers to the core" in your response to that comment, I admitted that you are right.

At the end, that is, prior to that point and throughout our conversation of around 10+ posts, that argument has repeated multiple times.

It wasn't even at that point that I argued against your aegument, and I never claimed that the blow would be less lethal because it was weaker,

Neither did I

but less fatal because Hinata would even try to leave parts of Rimuru's body "alive" to make sure he would not die, and because Hinata makes it clear several times that even though

Which, as I said multiple times, would not reduce the lethality just because "she tried to".

she used that move, she was trying hard not to kill Rimuru with it (not making him weaker, but preventing him from completely destroying Rimuru), so I'm not denying what you said.

Rimuru's "Probably" assumption that Hinata wanted that.

A portion of their rebuttals also have no supporting evidence, particularly talking about the "sacrifice" thing.

Except, not really, the term "sacrifice" is self-explanatory, and your whole misunderstanding of "it must be present in his arm, not just his heart core" has no proof other then a single visual panel when the entire novel's narrative suggests otherwise, and so does the skills and magic page.

In any case, I'll be leaving this for staff to judge and won't be replying further unless its a staff asking me something.

 

[Dog3352]

I didn't say Manga contradicts the LN, I said you using manga as the base of your argument instead of the LN is the problem.

I'm just using it for visual illustration, the manga isn't my main argument, and if it doesn't contradict itself or anything like that, I don't see the problem with that.

At the end, that is, prior to that point and throughout our conversation of around 10+ posts, that argument has repeated multiple times.

Definitely not, I just talked about the argument from the heart 2 times, and stopped right after your second answer.

Neither did I

Which, as I said multiple times, would not reduce the lethality just because "she tried to".

How does not completely destroying Rimuru no reduce the lethality of the cut?

Rimuru's "Probably" assumption that Hinata wanted that.

I mean, the assumption fits with the fact that Hinata declared several times that she would try not to kill Rimuru with that attack, and I don't see any other reason for her to specifically aim lower on the body.

Except, not really, the term "sacrifice" is self-explanatory, and your whole misunderstanding of "it must be present in his arm, not just his heart core" has no proof other then a single visual panel when the entire novel's narrative suggests otherwise, and so does the skills and magic page.

Rimuru literally sacrificing his skill at that moment completely contradicts the skill itself still remaining only in the core, the sacrifice itself wouldn't exist and wouldn't make any sense if that were the case, and I'm not even using the manga panel as the main argument, but what the LN demonstrates to mean by this "sacrifice".

 

[Antvasima]

What do other staff members here think?

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

I have my hands full, thus haven't got feedback on Dog3352's report, but there has been a recent report that @Shiedaisthepeak has posted nonsense/gibberish on someone else's wall. And there's apparently harassment on tiktok or so, but haven't seen evidence of that.

 

[Shiedaisthepeak]

I have my hands full, thus haven't got feedback on Dog3352's report, but there has been a recent report that @Shiedaisthepeak has posted nonsense/gibberish on someone else's wall. And there's apparently harassment on tiktok or so.

I don't mean to be misunderstood, but calling this 'nonsense' feels like an insult to my language. Additionally, if you translate what I’ve said, you’ll see it’s actually a line from a TV series (Akasya Durağı). Wishing you good work!

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

I was considering giving 'em a warning in the thread, but after checking the warning tracker, considered a formal report might be better.

Reporting user @Tempestdragon6 for this comment

They had been warned very recently for disruptive behavior, also on a TenSura thread, which resulted in a week-long ban.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

I don't mean to be misunderstood, but calling this 'nonsense' feels like an insult to my language. Additionally, if you translate what I’ve said, you’ll see it’s actually a line from a TV series (Akasya Durağı). Wishing you good work!

My apologies, it seems Google Translate just wasn't working for me. Perhaps some words were misspelled was why it couldn't detect, though parts of it started to work when I double checked and tried again.

I was considering giving 'em a warning in the thread, but after checking the warning tracker, considered a formal report might be better.

Reporting user @Tempestdragon6 for this comment

They had been warned very recently for disruptive behavior, also on a TenSura thread, which resulted in a week-long ban.

Yeah, this is bad. I suggest a ban for another month or two if he is still misbehaving after a week long ban.

 

[Shiedaisthepeak]

My apologies, it seems Google Translate just wasn't working for me. Perhaps some words were misspelled was why it couldn't detect, though parts of it started to work when I double checked and tried again.

No problem! If you'd like to take a closer look at the quote, here you go.

And I have a request for you. Could you take a look at the CRT I sent you?

 

[Antvasima]

Yeah, this is bad. I suggest a ban for another month or two if he is still misbehaving after a week long ban.

I think that a warning should be sufficient. Speaking as an autistic person, I do not think that the comment was intended in a hateful and ableist manner, just in a "that's gay"-style language habit.

 

[Meli_Tempest]

Worthless is continuously antagonistic in posts regarding things he disagrees with, similar to Tjdwo, but worse. I support either a strict final warning, or a straight up ban, this dude shows no signs of changing, he's been like this since I could first remember encountering him on the site.

What happened to this?

I believe the report of Worthless' behavior never came to anything.

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

huh ok lang

While I appreciate you not wanting to escalate things, I will still note this response as inappropriate.

Overall, I do agree with Ant that a warning suffices. Still, wanted to bring it to attention.

 

[Catzlaflame]

My apologies, it seems Google Translate just wasn't working for me. Perhaps some words were misspelled was why it couldn't detect, though parts of it started to work when I double checked and tried again.

I put the first sentence into google translate.

kız floxia amını yiyim mi

And the result was:

Girl Floxia, should I eat your pus*y?

Since electronic translations can be weird, there is a quora post inquiring about the meaning of the notable word above — Actual Turkish people also corroborate the translation from google, describing the word as extremely profane:

https://www.quora.com/What-does-the-Turkish-word-am%C4%B1n%C4%B1-mean

Even if that’s is from a show, that’s still an extremely weird thing to say. Not to mention that when the user said, “Foxia” in that message:

Girl Floxia, should I eat your pus*y?

That isn’t a foreign word…. it’s the vs battles name of the other user… so that part is clearly not from a tv show.

Do explain yourself @Shiedaisthepeak

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

OK but none of these are rule breaking. He's even apparently using scans and verse information to argue his points. Can it be frustrating? Yes. Is it reportable? At least so far, no.

Regarding the @Dog3352 report, I agree with these sentiments.

 

[CodeCCLL]

Additionally, if you translate what I’ve said, you’ll see it’s actually a line from a TV series (Akasya Durağı).

For the record, this is a lie. There is no such line in the TV series in question.

I put the first sentence into google translate.

And the result was:


Since electronic translations can be weird, there is a quora post inquiring about the meaning of the notable word above — Actual Turkish people also corroborate the translation from google, describing the word as extremely profane:

https://www.quora.com/What-does-the-Turkish-word-am%C4%B1n%C4%B1-mean

Even if that’s is from a show, that’s still an extremely weird thing to say. Not to mention that when the user said, “Foxia” in that message:


That isn’t a foreign word…. it’s the vs battles name of the other user… so that part is clearly not from a tv show.

Do explain yourself @Shiedaisthepeak

Yes, your translation is completely correct. This is a disturbing comment.

 

[Antvasima]

So for how long should we ban Shiedaisthepeak? For a year, or longer or briefer?

 

[Shiedaisthepeak]

So for how long should we ban Shiedaisthepeak? For a year, or longer or briefer?

Just let me explain myself Please, there is an important cosmology revision, and I will explain it.

 

[GarrixianXD]

Just let me explain myself Please, there is an important cosmology revision, and I will explain it.

You're given a chance to explain yourself. Don't waste it.

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

So for how long should we ban Shiedaisthepeak? For a year, or longer or briefer?

For comparison sake:
Twisted_Little_Raven received a ban of two weeks for an inappropriate conversation with a meme of an innuendo (the image has since expired)

While it should also be noted Raven had prior warnings about inappropriate comments, the comment made by @Shiedaisthepeak is frankly worse than what she got banned for, specially since they tried hiding behind another language; the fact they also wrote it apparently unsolicited; and tried to explain it away with a lie (though I'm willing to give the benefit of the doubt there by simple courtesy). So 1 month (as originally proposed for Raven in her report) would be the minimum for me as things stand.

I will nevertheless wait for @Shiedaisthepeak explanation before giving my final thoughts.

 

[Shiedaisthepeak]

That isn’t a foreign word…. it’s the vs battles name of the other user… so that part is clearly not from a tv show.

I have come to fully explain something you misunderstood and harshly judged me for.

FIRST JUDGMENT: 'This is not from a series.'

It’s natural for you to make this comment without reviewing the link I provided, but please allow me to explain. If you search for this quote online along with the series I mentioned, you will find the connection I referred to. Additionally, if you look at both of our profiles, you’ll realize this is meant as a 'joke.' Please also review my CRTs and profiles — you won’t find even the slightest insult or disrespect. This is an inside joke between friends. (The situation I need to add is that the person referred to as Floxia currently hates me, and I can provide evidence of the insults they've said behind my back. I want to clarify that this person is neither a witness nor a friend of mine in any way. This is an issue from the past.)

Since electronic translations can be weird, there is a quora post inquiring about the meaning of the notable word above — Actual Turkish people also corroborate the translation from google, describing the word as extremely profane:

Of course, I don’t deny this judgment, but I will keep the explanation brief. What I did was a reference to the character the person is a fan of, which is part of a local humor style. You can see this in the 'TikTok link' I shared, and you can also find it if you search for it in Turkish.

CONCLUSION:

This is merely a joke made with 'one' person. Otherwise, you can understand this from the comment by Floxia on my profile saying, 'I’m waiting for you on Discord.' Here, I list all my CRTs and request that my actions be reviewed. I find it absurd and illogical for my account to be removed over just a joke. Thank you in advance for reading.

CRT 1

CRT 2

CRT 3

CRT 4

I will call upon @Mr. Bambu , who has consistently commented on my CRTs (thank you for his comments so far), as a witness of course, only if he agrees. I want to clarify that I am not taking him as an assistant, as I don’t want to be misunderstood; he is someone I deeply respect. I believe he is familiar with my communication with him as well as my attitude toward people and in CRTs. Therefore, I specifically request his opinion.

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While it should also be noted Raven had prior warnings about inappropriate comments, the comment made by @Shiedaisthepeak is frankly worse than what she got banned for, specially since they tried hiding behind another language; the fact they also wrote it apparently unsolicited; and tried to explain it away with a lie (though I'm willing to give the benefit of the doubt there by simple courtesy). So 1 month (as originally proposed for Raven in her report) would be the minimum for me as things stand.

I would like to state that I am not hiding behind any language. After you listen to my (its just a simple meme) explanation, I will ask for your comment. Therefore, I thank you in advance.

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For the record, this is a lie. There is no such line in the TV series in question.

I would like to correct myself this is a joke taken from an old television show. It’s personally disappointing that you would place me so easily in the “liar” category without even searching the TikTok link I shared or looking it up online. However, I don’t view you negatively, as misunderstandings or situations may have been overlooked

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AND I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO ADD:

The individual named Floxia explicitly threatened to have me banned. Despite my stating that the matter was resolved and the joke had ended, they used a phrase like, "Let me tell Antvasima to get you banned." It is clear that this was a joke, yet I am now facing a situation where the other party has approached me with hostility and bullied me on TikTok after commenting on my profile.

here

here

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

It’s natural for you to make this comment without reviewing the link I provided, but please allow me to explain. If you search for this quote online along with the series I mentioned, you will find the connection I referred to. Additionally, if you look at both of our profiles, you’ll realize this is meant as a 'joke.' Please also review my CRTs and profiles — you won’t find even the slightest insult or disrespect.

Being sexually flirtatious will not be tolerated. Playing mature games, flirting, or using sexual connotations is discouraged, and in extreme cases, will result in a severe penalty.

From our site rules. It being a joke could lessen the severity here, but as noted, we have indeed banned others for comparatively tamer "humor".

This is an inside joke between friends. (The situation I need to add is that the person referred to as Floxia currently hates me, and I can provide evidence of the insults they've said behind my back. I want to clarify that this person is neither a witness nor a friend of mine in any way. This is an issue from the past.)

I ask for a bit of clarification here: Are you friends or "enemies"? You seem to imply you two have/had beef, but are also acting quite casually with them (enough to make an "inside joke")

Of course, I don’t deny this judgment, but I will keep the explanation brief. What I did was a reference to the character the person is a fan of, which is part of a local humor style. You can see this in the 'TikTok link' I shared, and you can also find it if you search for it in Turkish.

I can see it as being an actual joke. The problem overall is that it goes quite overboard for our rules.

That being said, the added context does sway me a little that you were simply clueless about the severity of how the site takes that type of joke and could support a stern warning and leave it at that. I will wait for further staff comments.

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

AND I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO ADD:

The individual named Floxia explicitly threatened to have me banned. Despite my stating that the matter was resolved and the joke had ended, they used a phrase like, "Let me tell Antvasima to get you banned." It is clear that this was a joke, yet I am now facing a situation where the other party has approached me with hostility and bullied me on TikTok after commenting on my profile.

here

here

In the future: do not joke with someone who you don't have a good relationship with.

 

[Shiedaisthepeak]

That being said, the added context does sway me a little that you were simply clueless about the severity of how the site takes that type of joke and could support a stern warning and leave it at that. I will wait for further staff comments.

I did my best to explain the situation and supported it with my explanations. I don’t want it to appear like drama, and yes, I wasn’t aware of these rules, at least not for a joke. Once again, I apologize what I did was a serious mistake. Thank you for your understanding.

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In the future: do not joke with someone who you don't have a good relationship with.

Yes, the results are not very "encouraging."

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I ask for a bit of clarification here: Are you friends or "enemies"? You seem to imply you two have/had beef, but are also acting quite casually with them (enough to make an "inside joke")

We used to be friends, but in the current situation, if you look at the Imgur links I’ve shared, you’ll see that they are now threatening to have me banned.

 

[Antvasima]

@Mr. Bambu

It seems like your help has been requested here.

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

I did my best to explain the situation and supported it with my explanations. I don’t want it to appear like drama, and yes, I wasn’t aware of these rules, at least not for a joke. Once again, I apologize what I did was a serious mistake. Thank you for your understanding.

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Yes, the results are not very "encouraging."

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We used to be friends, but in the current situation, if you look at the Imgur links I’ve shared, you’ll see that they are now threatening to have me banned.

Try not to multipost. If you have more to add, edit your last comment.

 

[Shiedaisthepeak]

Try not to multipost. If you have more to add, edit your last comment.

Sorry my bad

 

[Gorkyss]

We used to be friends, but in the current situation, if you look at the Imgur links I’ve shared, you’ll see that they are now threatening to have me banned.

So yes, im friend with Shieda (not close), they used to be friends but after time Floxia threaten him.

 

[CodeCCLL]

I would like to correct myself this is a joke taken from an old television show. It’s personally disappointing that you would place me so easily in the “liar” category without even searching the TikTok link I shared or looking it up online. However, I don’t view you negatively, as misunderstandings or situations may have been overlooked

No problem! If you'd like to take a closer look at the quote, here you go.

Aren't you aware that the link you gave goes to a random video that has nothing to do with the TV series you mentioned?

Also, all the episodes of the series you mentioned have already been to YouTube, so you can give us a video and timestamp of where exactly the "joke" you mentioned was said. There are many people in this forum who can translate from turkish to english, it is quite easy to determine whether you is telling the truth or not.

 

[Shiedaisthepeak]

Aren't you aware that the link you gave goes to a random video that has nothing to do with the TV series you mentioned?

I think this might come across as evasive, but it's a joke from a show, as I would say for the series. I’ve clarified this again in the TikTok link I shared I was simply repeating the joke.

No problem! If you'd like to take a closer look at the quote, here you go.

Here is what I’m sharing. If you're going to approach me with accusations of lying, feel free, but this will be implied as defamation. What you're implying is that “he’s lying to cover up his actions.” If that’s what you intend, then go ahead,Still, I want to emphasize that this doesn’t mean I look down on you, nor could it ever mean that. I don’t harbor any hatred toward you, and once again, thank you for your comment.

ADDITION:

If you ask Turkish citizens in the forum, I believe they will naturally confirm what I’ve said. Therefore, you can have Turkish people you know investigate and look into this matter.

 

[Antvasima]

To our staff members:

So what should we currently do here?

 

[Shiedaisthepeak]

Aren't you aware that the link you gave goes to a random video that has nothing to do with the TV series you mentioned?

I think this might come across as evasive, but it's a joke from a show, as I would say for the series. I’ve clarified this again in the TikTok link I shared I was simply repeating the joke.

Also, all the episodes of the series you mentioned have already been to YouTube, so you can give us a video and timestamp of where exactly the "joke" you mentioned was said. There are many people in this forum who can translate from turkish to english, it is quite easy to determine whether you is telling the truth or not.

Go ahead, ask whoever you want and do your research. However, if you’re going to approach me as someone who “lies to cover up their wrongdoing,” I don’t take that very well. So, my request is this: please don’t talk to me in that manner.

ADDİTİON:
I don’t believe I did this, but seriously, posting it as a screenshot would be pointless. Anyway, here’s the explanation regarding its connection to the show:



The joke was made based on this episode, and if you translate and look into it along with its meanings, you’ll see that this is the case. Additionally, you can ask the Turkish members on the forum, and they will confirm it as well.

So what should we currently do here?

I don’t want to interfere with your work, nor do I have the right to do so, but this time, you could issue a strict warning. This is just my personal opinion.