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Why would you make a profile when we have 0 actual scaling rn for him
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STRONGEST One-Punch Man Discussion Thread!
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Every psychic's/ESPer too
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What no it wouldn’t just being an esper doesn’t make you immune to mind hax either you have feats of resistance or you don’t unless your saitama who resists everything in the verse
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Yeah but the ESPers we encountered so far has that tho only the strong one's
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They don’t unless you talking about DoS or something which isn’t same hax but as it stands now its working on everyone not named saitama blast and god exceptions being possibly Boros possibly garou possibly blast crew and void ninja
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Probably not.
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Are you seriously suggesting that Garou doesn't know how to hold back? Seriously? And do you even realize that you're essentially saying Garou is utilizing all his speed against a centipede that even the average guys in the helicopter can see approaching them? Which is absurd.
That's not even the point
Are you purposely ignoring the fact that his strength also grows?
The main advantage SC has against Garou is his size, if it weren't for its size, SC would have been one-shotted by Garou.
You don't need proof for something so obvious.
And your evidence that he is using his full speed in that moment? Are you seriously saying that Garou doesn't know how to hold back his speed? Don't you realize how absurd the idea that Garou is using his maximum speed even against opponents he thinks significantly slower than him? Seriously? And are you seriously saying MB is as fast as FF?
I can say the same thing about your argument to SC. Different opponent, different tactics. The tactics you mentioned are pointless as SC is too big for it and would just regenerate
"Here" I'm suppressing the urge to respond to this with a clown emoji... If you genuinely believe the current tiering is logical, I'm not sure what else to say to you.
You're over exaggerating. I don't even know why I'm bothering. Do you really think I haven't heard the same reasoning before? Your argument is nothing new to me.
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Boros sneak, your credibility reduced
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He does not hold back against monsters, no. You saying he does goes against source material
PIS. Guess now MB is human level speed because of that, right?
Helicopter people could see Garou because plot demanded them seeing Garou as something more than a monster. The same reason why slower characters can tag faster ones. Genos talking to Saitama when he was about to death punch flash (speedblitzing him) is an example.
Guess according to you Saitama was holding back in speed in Jupiter because Genos could watch all the fight on his core... or he held back because BS could see him zero-punching Garou...
Please, learn about PIS
So? How is it related to Garou holding back in speed?
So? And hell no. Garou couldn't one shot SC until the end of the fight. And I'm the one who cannot read the narrative
"So obvious" that contradict the source material
No, I'm not. I'm saying he does not hold back while in a death battle.
That is what feats say, yes. You disagree? Cool. But that is what the manga shows, such as FF being sturdier than Darkshine
Garou was... literally, using his speed during the fight. And trying to reach a tactic that would work. He didn't know they wouldn't work at first. Have you really read the fight?I can say the same thing about your argument to SC. Different opponent, different tactics. The tactics you mentioned are pointless as SC is too big for it and would just regenerate
The tiering system is being changed, and we're talking about the low-class of the tiering system –based in joules–. If you think that is illogical, then guess you shouldn't debate
At least I'm offering an argument. All you're saying is, summarized, "Garou would hold back. Why? Because I say so", "MB cannot scale to FF!", "Humans could see Garou! So he definitely held back!"
Hell. If you look at the fight, you'd actually see situations where Garou couldn't evade SC attacks because he was too near. Something that shouldn't happen if, according to you, he was holding back that much... Just because you cannot agree in MB scaling to FF because of your bias
Edit: Anyway, I'm tired of wasting my time here. If you are so convinced the tier is so wrong it is obvious and anyone could see it, then stop ranting and do a CRT. It is useless to continue this conversation here if you're not going to listen, not give any actual argument and just demand that everything is "too obvious".
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God only gave them energy blast abilities. Probably because Psykorochi wasn't reaching God directly like other characters have via the God Cubes, and because Homeless Emperor is a random fodder human.
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Doesn't seem like it. I'm guessing that in the future that part of him will reawaken or something. Maybe when he fights God who knows. Right now I doubt it.
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I doubt it'd give a feat even remotely comparable to their actual AP, so I don't see why it should be calculated
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Would it at least upgrade Garou's heat manipulation?
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Yeah I calced it a while ago. It's really outdated though.
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You can calc it, but unless the Serious Punch Squared is retconed it wouldn't mean much.
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So if it's not usable for AP scaling, can it be used as higher heat manip? I'm pretty sure Garou in this instance copied the Sun.
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He just did a Nuclear Fission punch.
For AP it is useable you're just not getting anything close to 4-A or 3-C.
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The heat of a nuclear bomb is bigger than Sun's heat
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Well, i know, but i'm referring to this
He looks at the sun and then releases Nuclear Fission that big, i think he copied it, though i could be wrong.
Is this just for the surface?
Dragonite007
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Core of Sun: 15 millions °C
Nuclear Bomb: ≈ 100 millions °C
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Can someone explain to me the difference between empty void mind stuff and like just regular illusions
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I don't see any reason to think that.
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He never before made any explosion that big and now references the sun ( we also know he can replicate any natural phenomenon in the universe) just like that for no reason?
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The way I see it is that he references the sun because seeing it allows him to position himself and locate Earth to teleport himself back. Hence the next page when he says "I got it" and his vision zooms in on Earth.
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I can see that but his nuclear Fission is drawn exactly like the sun in this page.
Now i'm not saying he created the sun or anything like that but he MAY have been influenced by it and that's why this explosion is that big.
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Both are big balls of light and fire
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That was explaining WC and from years ago, so I doubt it is
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both , was dimensional with saitama and flash first when they touched it , now they had light thrown at them ?? and it was mental ..god be doing weird stuff
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What y’all thoughts on this opm Cosmology scale
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not exactly , this black matter stuff was about garou during orochi fight , specifically when he was running from his tentacles and his wound started closing by itself
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Oh, really? I thought it was when Garou fought GS
Anyway, idk, maybe you could argue it and use some visuals (Garou breaking his arm against Saitama specifically) as proof?
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Is pretty good
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Not mind reading, but telepathy
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