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Minor FNaF Revision: William Afton Pulling Apart Animatronics

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So, this feat is important for the series itself, yet not exactly important for this site. I'm talking Afton's feat of dismantling the animatronics: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Flashlight237/William_Afton_Dismantling_Animatronics

Personally, I think the whole range of values should be listed under "Possibly Street Level to Wall Level". I say that because the blog gives ratings to all possibilities as to how William Afton dismantled the FNAF 1 animatronics, yet we still have to deal with Atari 2600 visuals, which don't really show off anything but the basic idea on how Afton did it (quick removal of the limbs and head). It could be stronger as I had calc'd the act of tearing the arm off myself since the animatronics have that possibly going for them, but I've yet to get the thumbs up needed to get that blog through (it's a Common Feat, so I'll need two calc groupers).

I only did the neck as that's the only part that isn't a ball-and-socket joint, which would've made the job way easier. So yeah, there you have it.
 
I like this!

And yeah, a 'possibly' should get the job done, like how he is already 'possibly 9-C'

I was also thinking of calculating the skull crushing feat of Fredbear once my own calc goes trough. I've seen your answer on it. Should I add an extra end using the skull's thickness?

Either way, this means good things for the fnaf verse. Now we have even Wall level feats!
 
This seems good to me. Having more Possibly 9-B FNAF characters opens up some pretty neat opportunities for matches, too.
 
william being 9-B as a normal ass human is not consistent with anything else he or any other human does in the games, and the absolute ***** quality visuals combined with the fact that william would have the knowledge to dismantle the animatronics without brute force means that the feat would just be completely invalid at that point
 
theres absolutely no way that an official stat on this site is gonna be based on the assumption that william cleanly blew off the head of an animatronic in a single strike with his bare hands when all we really know is that he dismantled them in some manner
 
Actually, now that I see it, endo 0-1 has a Ball Joint in his head: https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/f...llery_2.png/revision/latest?cb=20190530181550

This is VR Endo, but I'm sure normal one has it too
Looking at it... Okay, the ball joint is a little weird here. It's probably the quality of the image that's getting to me, but it looks like the small neck pipe is straight-up fused into the ball while the large pipe seems to hold up the ball joint itself. There's another thing in the back that looks more like a wire than a pipe too. Hard to tell really.
william being 9-B as a normal ass human is not consistent with anything else he or any other human does in the games, and the absolute ***** quality visuals combined with the fact that william would have the knowledge to dismantle the animatronics without brute force means that the feat would just be completely invalid at that point
You cannot be seriously claiming a feat invalid because "hurr durr geniuses can't brute force", like, they absolutely freaking can if they need to. The cutscenes play out the same even if you have the animatronics directly facing William Afton which makes the scene more "fight-or-flight". Bear in mind, any electrician will tell you to turn electrical devices off before doing anything to them, yet my man just rushed in and dismantled them, and the "Atari 2600 scream" combined with how fast William ran at the animatronics are clear signs that the dismantling was aggressive rather than planned out. Also, just because an Atari 2600's visuals are primitive doesn't mean it just runs in slideshow quality; in fact, Atari 2600 games can run at the same frame rate as a PS5 game (60 FPS).
 
following. currently leaning on agreeing, but does this possibly stat change anything for other characters like the UCN animatronics, his future keys, or anyone else i might be forgetting?
 
So, this would scale to:
William Afton | Springtrap (His springlocked self should be more powerful than his human self)
Golden Freddy | Fredbear (Comparing to Springtrap, since he also is a springlock suit)
Funtimes (Were made to kill, which should make them superior to the springlocks, which weren't made with that intention)
UCN (Can overpower William)
SB (Since they're the newer ones)
 
Agree with the op, though to clarify, the rating would be listed as something like "Street level up to Wall level" or "Street level, possibly Street level+ up to Wall level"? Asking because I don't think I remember another case where a character gets three possible different results from the same calculation added to a profile.
 
Agree with the op, though to clarify, the rating would be listed as something like "Street level up to Wall level" or "Street level, possibly Street level+ up to Wall level"? Asking because I don't think I remember another case where a character gets three possible different results from the same calculation added to a profile.
His human self is is going to be 10-A, possibly 9-C, up to 9-B
 
So, this would scale to:
William Afton | Springtrap (His springlocked self should be more powerful than his human self)
it would also scale to his scraptrap key, since he's comparable to his previous self.

wait i made the page. no he doesn't. he scales to other scrap animatronics. nvm chat i might be stupid.
 
Henry did say that William overpowered the Animatronics, which leans more into the brute force route
There are some things that don't add up, if William is much stronger than the animatronics, why did he need to hide in a place where they can't enter and attack them by surprise? Also, weren't the animatronics in poor condition? They had been in a place full of dirt and rats for a long time, the roof was probably in very bad condition because if I remember correctly it even rained inside the building (water severely damages animatronics, so even if he destroyed them with his bare hands, it was probably much easier for him because of that), added to that, William is a genius who knows perfectly how to dismantle animatronics and the FNAF minigames are very visually unreliable.
 
if William is much stronger than the animatronics, why did he need to hide in a place where they can't enter and attack them by surprise?
Hell if we know, but we have direct confirmation that he is stronger than them from Henry, and even disregarding that, he's not a goddamn moron, he's not going to try and fight the things in a fair fight for no reason. he has zero reason to.
Also, weren't the animatronics in poor condition? They had been in a place full of dirt and rats for a long time, the roof was probably in very bad condition because if I remember correctly it even rained inside the building (water severely damages animatronics, so even if he destroyed them with his bare hands, it was probably much easier for him because of that)
If he needed to hide, then he clearly thought they were in good enough condition to try and kill him. and, liquids isn't really something that's bothered them before. it's specifically said they had large amounts of blood leaking from their suits, so they've been drenched in blood without being damaged from it.
added to that, William is a genius who knows perfectly how to dismantle animatronics and the FNAF minigames are very visually unreliable.
this was literally answered in the comment above yours. it's specifically said he overpowered them. he didn't masterfully dismantle them.
 
Hell if we know, but we have direct confirmation that he is stronger than them from Henry, and even disregarding that, he's not a goddamn moron, he's not going to try and fight the things in a fair fight for no reason.
If he were stronger than them (enough to tear them apart with his bare hands), he wouldn't need to hide because they probably couldn't even seriously harm him. If he hid it is because he knew they were a threat to him and he couldn't defeat them without attacking them from behind.
If he needed to hide, then he clearly thought they were in good enough condition to try and kill him.
"Good conditions to try to kill him" is not the same as "they were in the best possible conditions", a robot the size of Freddy, even in bad conditions would be a threat to a normal human.
liquids isn't really something that's bothered them before. it's specifically said they had large amounts of blood leaking from their suits, so they've been drenched in blood without being damaged.
Idk, the blood probably only reached the suits and did not reach the electronic components inside the suit, it is a known fact that water damages these types of electronic devices. Even within the verse. You cannot compare the fact that the animatronics are splashed with blood with the fact that they spent years standing in a filthy place where it rains on them.
it's specifically said he overpowered them. he didn't masterfully dismantle them.
And how does Henry know what happened in a place where he was not? Is Henry omnipresent or omniscient? I imagine that's just Henry's assumption. If I found a bunch of dismembered people in a place where there were no weapons in sight, I would also think that the person who did that overpowered them.
 
If he were stronger than them (enough to tear them apart with his bare hands), he wouldn't need to hide because they probably couldn't even seriously harm him. If he hid it is because he knew they were a threat to him and he couldn't defeat them without attacking them from behind.
Will isn't invincible, he's intelligent enough to not want to be harmed. He has no reason to try to fight the animatronics as if he was in a boxing ring. He'd probably just want to be as safe as possible
 
Will isn't invincible, he's intelligent enough to not want to be harmed. He has no reason to try to fight the animatronics as if he was in a boxing ring. He'd probably just want to be as safe as possible
Yes, it is very likely, however, we still have other things to deal with before taking this feat seriously.

He still could have simply dismantled them (even canonically tougher animatronics, such as Toy Animatronics, can be dismantled by perfectly normal children), the animatronics were most likely in very poor condition and Henry's statement cannot be taken seriously because it is simply an assumption, he was not at the scene and clearly has no way of knowing what happened in any detail (unless I'm missing something).

Edit: Also, the minigames are absurdly unreliable visually, in FNAF 2, Charlie's death is depicted with a cutscene where William is standing over her and she turns into a ghost xddd.
 
Will isn't invincible, he's intelligent enough to not want to be harmed. He has no reason to try to fight the animatronics as if he was in a boxing ring. He'd probably just want to be as safe as possible
Furthermore, that argument also leaves me with another question. If he wanted to be as safe as possible, why would he destroy them with his own hands? Why not carry a weapon or just attack his weak points (which he obviously knows) and dismantle them?
 
If he were stronger than them (enough to tear them apart with his bare hands), he wouldn't need to hide because they probably couldn't even seriously harm him. If he hid it is because he knew they were a threat to him and he couldn't defeat them without attacking them from behind.
as Oiguana said, William isn't invulnerable, and is still a human, even with the physical power to tear them apart. he likely doesn't want to get hurt.
"Good conditions to try to kill him" is not the same as "they were in the best possible conditions", a robot the size of Freddy, even in bad conditions would be a threat to a normal human.
Which is why he hid. he is a human, and considered normal (to the extent of his non-criminal activities) in verse at the time of him doing that.
Idk, the blood probably only reached the suits and did not reach the electronic components inside the suit, it is a known fact that water damages these types of electronic devices. Even within the verse. You cannot compare the fact that the animatronics are splashed with blood with the fact that they spent years standing in a filthy place where it rains on them.
that's contradicted later down the line in the timeline with animatronics being completely fine running a ruckus before FNAF 6 (including the puppet until they were captured by lefty) outside and weren't damaged by the elements.
And how does Henry know what happened in a place where he was not? Is Henry omnipresent or omniscient? I imagine that's just Henry's assumption. If I found a bunch of dismembered people in a place where there were no weapons in sight, I would also think that the person who did that overpowered them.
... the place has cameras? Henry probably checked the camera feed afterwords and got a wonderful show of watching a grown ass man tear apart robots with his bare hands.
 
as Oiguana said, William isn't invulnerable, and is still a human, even with the physical power to tear them apart. he likely doesn't want to get hurt.
If he didn't want to get hurt and wanted to be as safe as possible, why did he run out of the safe room and destroy those big robots with his bare hands? That doesn't sound like a very safe thing, nor a good idea if the first part of the plan is to hide in a place where they can't enter. Why not carry a weapon? Why, if he knows the weak points of the animatronics, doesn't he just use them to his advantage to be in as little danger as possible? Furthermore, even children can dismantle animatronics that are canonically more durable than the originals, taking that and other things into account, it doesn't seem like it would be difficult to dismantle one without needing to be 9-C or 9-B.
Which is why he hid. he is a human, and considered normal (to the extent of his non-criminal activities) in verse at the time of him doing that.
So, if he considered himself to be a completely normal human, why did it occur to him out of nowhere to go overpower and destroy the animatronics with his bare hands? It doesn't sound like something a normal human would do. The possibility that he used a weapon or simply quickly dismantled them by attacking their weak points instead of overpowering them is still there.
that's contradicted later down the line in the timeline with animatronics being completely fine running a ruckus before FNAF 6 (including the puppet until they were captured by lefty) outside and weren't damaged by the elements.
Scan please, I don't remember that (Pizzeria Simulator isn't my favorite game to be honest, so I probably didn't actually see that scene). Anyway, the fact that water damages them makes more sense here considering that they are robots that have electronic circuits inside, probably what you said happened is a contradiction that we should ignore.
... the place has cameras? Henry probably checked the camera feed afterwords and got a wonderful show of watching a grown ass man tear apart robots with his bare hands.
I find it hard to believe that security cameras continue to work correctly in a dirty place where the roof is full of holes, it rains inside the building and there are rats running everywhere.
 
as Oiguana said, William isn't invulnerable, and is still a human, even with the physical power to tear them apart. he likely doesn't want to get hurt.
Which is why he hid. he is a human, and considered normal (to the extent of his non-criminal activities) in verse at the time of him doing that.
I'd also like to add that the animatronics have abilities like Immortality and Perception Manipulation that would make them difficult to kill for someone equal in AP to them (which I personally think Afton is; he's not weaker or stronger, he's equal.)
Mangle was implied to have been gradually taken apart by numerous children over an extended time period; numerous children could disassemble a house if you gave them enough time, but houses aren't Tier 10. Afton, on the other hand, quickly ripped the animatronics apart fast enough for them to not fight back.
Scan please, I don't remember that
Here you go.
 
Light soul already responded to some of them, so
So, if he considered himself to be a completely normal human, why did it occur to him out of nowhere to go overpower and destroy the animatronics with his bare hands? It doesn't sound like something a normal human would do. The possibility that he used a weapon or simply quickly dismantled them by attacking their weak points instead of overpowering them is still there.
I said he's considered a normal human in verse. i never said william considers himself a normal human person. we don't know anything about his mentality. and as lightsoul said, he knows these are haunted animatronics, im not sure why you think he'd do anything but hide and attack them from where they can't enter. it doesn't really matter his mentality on not bringing a weapon.

and just to entertain the thought about the weak points. the weak points aren't even confirmed for the classics. you know, the ones he dismantled... it's entirely possible they don't have them at all.
Anyway, the fact that water damages them makes more sense here considering that they are robots that have electronic circuits inside, probably what you said happened is a contradiction that we should ignore.
So instead of taking one of the main gameplay sections at face value on how they were confirmed to be outside with literal IMAGES of them outside, we should instead ignore it because... they're robots??? and take the minigame where the only animatronic in THE ENTIRE SERIES (which is later contradicted in the same game) gets damaged by water as the default for all the other ones?
I find it hard to believe that security cameras continue to work correctly in a dirty place where the roof is full of holes, it rains inside the building and there are rats running everywhere.
Other technology was working in the building though? the phones were working, else Phone guy wouldn't have been able to send the phone call about the saferoom being sealed off. not really that hard to believe it was working if everything else was.
 
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Mangle was implied to have been gradually taken apart by numerous children over an extended time period; numerous children could disassemble a house if you gave them enough time, but houses aren't Tier 10.
Of course not, how would a child destroy a house if I gave him enough time? btw, the time should not be too long, considering that it should be a short enough time frame so that children do not get bored and use Mangle as an animatronic to "assemble and disassemble", no child would spend more than 20 minutes trying to take something apart without getting bored and leaving. Not to mention that I don't think anyone who goes to eat at a restaurant will stay long after eating, letting their child play with the attractions there. Saying they "had time to do it" is simply an excuse.
Afton, on the other hand, quickly ripped the animatronics apart fast enough for them to not fight back.
They were in bad condition (plus, considering the speed at which they move in the minigame, I doubt they can defend themselves very easily) + William took them by surprise + The guy is a genius in the field of robotics and would know perfectly well how to disassemble them + the animatronics, even in good condition, seem to be easy to dismantle + the minigames are visually unreliable (unless we believe that William has Death Manipulation and that when someone dies their body instantly becomes a ghost xDD).
Here you go.
Thanks, but
Anyway, the fact that water damages them makes more sense here considering that they are robots that have electronic circuits inside, probably what you said happened is a contradiction that we should ignore.
Also, I don't actually see them getting wet, it's clearly raining, but when the scene lights up they look completely dry. I see drops falling in front of them, but I don't see any drops of water touching them. Maybe in the position they are in, the rainwater doesn't reach them enough, idk.
I said he's considered a normal human in verse. i never said william considers himself a normal human person. we don't know anything about his mentality.
It just doesn't make sense, if Afton's mentality and intelligence tell him "hey, hide and attack by surprise, so you'll be in as little danger as possible", why later does it tell him "hey, I think it's a good idea for you to run out and destroy them with your bare hands, you'll probably be in danger because you're a normal person against a robot much bigger and heavier than you, but it doesn't matter, just ignore what I told you before"? So we guess Afton has moments where he's a genius and moments where he's dumb? xd.
the weak points aren't even confirmed for the classics. you know, the ones he dismantled... it's entirely possible they don't have them at all.
The joints that join the limbs on Endo-01 and Endo-02 are quite similar, and parts from the original animatronics were used as spare parts for the Toys (as I recall), so they should probably have a similar mechanism and should be able to be dismantled in the same way, the only difference is that the Endo-02 is more durable.

Btw Freddy's current profile already accepts that his joints have a 10-C Durability, William wouldn't even need to be 10-A to dismantle him.
So instead of taking one of the main gameplay sections at face value on how they were confirmed to be outside with literal IMAGES of them outside, we should instead ignore it because... they're robots??? and take the minigame where the only animatronic in THE ENTIRE SERIES (which is later contradicted in the same game) gets damaged by water as the default for all the other ones?
Yeah, I mean, isn't it an objective fact that water ruins technology? Does it make more sense for you to ignore something that you can corroborate yourself by pouring water on a television (example xd) and take into account a cinematic where you can't even see that they are wet?
Other technology was working in the building though? the phones were working, else Phone guy wouldn't have been able to send the phone call about the saferoom being sealed off. not really that hard to believe it was working if everything else was.
And we can't find a more logical explanation for that? I don't know, maybe the place where the phone was located had less damage than the rest of the rooms, besides, the place had been abandoned for years as I remember, why would they have the cameras active? Is it interesting to watch a building and everything in it rot? Not to mention that these conditions are not suitable for the building to have phones and cameras in good working order.
iirc, this book hasn't been confirmed to be canon to the games
What's the point of making a book that provides information about the continuity of video games if that information is not going to be canonical?
 
The joints that join the limbs on Endo-01 and Endo-02 are quite similar, and parts from the original animatronics were used as spare parts for the Toys (as I recall), so they should probably have a similar mechanism and should be able to be dismantled in the same way, the only difference is that the Endo-02 is more durable.

Btw Freddy's current profile already accepts that his joints have a 10-C Durability, William wouldn't even need to be 10-A to dismantle him.
read the profile slowly, you aren't making your point look good when you post the profile where it clear as day says 'possibly' because it isn't confirmed for the classic animatronics...
 
read the profile slowly, you aren't making your point look good when you post the profile where it clear as day says 'possibly' because it isn't confirmed for the classic animatronics...
Oh that's right, I think I read it too quickly, well anyway the "possibly" should go away, the reason why FNAF 1 and FNAF 2 are a different key in the current profile is based on a guess literally based on "I think that happened";
(Which didn't actually happen, because there is canonical confirmation that Endo-02 is more durable than Endo-01). And there are still several other points to discuss.
 
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Oh that's right, I think I read it too quickly, well anyway the "possibly" should go away, the reason why FNAF 1 and FNAF 2 are a different key in the current profile is based on a guess literally based on "I think that happened";
eh, thats for another thread. idc for the seperate joint rating for the classics.
 
Of course not, how would a child destroy a house if I gave him enough time?
A number of children could dismantle it by slowly taking apart the roof, paneling, etc.
btw, the time should not be too long, considering that it should be a short enough time frame so that children do not get bored and use Mangle as an animatronic to "assemble and disassemble", no child would spend more than 20 minutes trying to take something apart without getting bored and leaving. Not to mention that I don't think anyone who goes to eat at a restaurant will stay long after eating, letting their child play with the attractions there. Saying they "had time to do it" is simply an excuse.
Again, it's stated by Phone Guy that "the children" took apart Mangle, not "a child". One child could start to loosen a joint, a couple others could loosen it further, and eventually one could disconnect it, for example. One kid could get bored, and the next kid starts where the last one left off.
Also, I don't actually see them getting wet, it's clearly raining, but when the scene lights up they look completely dry. I see drops falling in front of them, but I don't see any drops of water touching them. Maybe in the position they are in, the rainwater doesn't reach them enough, idk.
They obviously would have had to get through rain to get to the back alley in the first place, though.
It just doesn't make sense, if Afton's mentality and intelligence tell him "hey, hide and attack by surprise, so you'll be in as little danger as possible", why later does it tell him "hey, I think it's a good idea for you to run out and destroy them with your bare hands, you'll probably be in danger because you're a normal person against a robot much bigger and heavier than you, but it doesn't matter, just ignore what I told you before"? So we guess Afton has moments where he's a genius and moments where he's dumb? xd.
Afton definitely isn't a normal human even by FNAF standards, that much should be made clear. If we're speculating about very specific decisions without evidence, maybe he was afraid of the animatronics taking his weapons and using them against him.
Btw Freddy's current profile already accepts that his joints have a 10-C Durability, William wouldn't even need to be 10-A to dismantle him.
Assuming that Afton had the time to specifically target the joints without the animatronics retaliating against him, sure. But these are animatronics that can move through entire buildings in the blink of an eye. Actually, that would explain why Afton hid before attacking: he was wary of the animatronics speed, not their strength.
Yeah, I mean, isn't it an objective fact that water ruins technology? Does it make more sense for you to ignore something that you can corroborate yourself by pouring water on a television (example xd) and take into account a cinematic where you can't even see that they are wet?
It doesn't ruin all technology. An animatronic not connected to any notable battery pack or stage is very different than a television.
And we can't find a more logical explanation for that? I don't know, maybe the place where the phone was located had less damage than the rest of the rooms, besides, the place had been abandoned for years as I remember, why would they have the cameras active? Is it interesting to watch a building and everything in it rot? Not to mention that these conditions are not suitable for the building to have phones and cameras in good working order.
Keep in mind that in FNAF 1, the lights for the entire building, the cameras for every room, and the office doors all used the same reserves of power. It's not at all a stretch to assume the phones used the same power as the cameras, and it's significantly more likely than the phones being isolated from everything else. The location probably still hired security guards to keep would-be burglars out, hence the cameras.
 
You cannot be seriously claiming a feat invalid because "hurr durr geniuses can't brute force", like, they absolutely freaking can if they need to.
what

william is a robotics genius and should know exactly how to take the animatronics apart. it’s kind of ridiculous to assume he’d just punch them instead
The cutscenes play out the same even if you have the animatronics directly facing William Afton which makes the scene more "fight-or-flight". Bear in mind, any electrician will tell you to turn electrical devices off before doing anything to them, yet my man just rushed in and dismantled them, and the "Atari 2600 scream" combined with how fast William ran at the animatronics are clear signs that the dismantling was aggressive rather than planned out.
that would make sense if william didn’t have to hide and ambush the animatronics
Also, just because an Atari 2600's visuals are primitive doesn't mean it just runs in slideshow quality; in fact, Atari 2600 games can run at the same frame rate as a PS5 game (60 FPS).
what are you talking about

these are the same minigames with cakes and desk fans larger than children you cannot pretend their visuals are reliable
 
Mangle was implied to have been gradually taken apart by numerous children over an extended time period; numerous children could disassemble a house if you gave them enough time, but houses aren't Tier 10. Afton, on the other hand, quickly ripped the animatronics apart fast enough for them to not fight back.
phone guy states that the employees had to put mangle back together after every shift, so it couldn’t have been a terribly long period. there’s no way a bunch of kids would be able to pull off a 9-B feat over that period of time. also note that these are kids with absolutely zero knowledge on how the animatronics work. they’re just screwing around until they eventually find parts which are weak enough for them to destroy. william already knows all of those weak points and would go for them immediately
 
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