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If you take the Marvel crossovers as canon (due to Doctor Who comics being produced by Marvel at the time) the Glory puts the Doctor's highest state above the Seventh Cosmos, alongside an unknown amount of other multiverses.
If we takes every single marvel crossover as canon we gonna end with something like this:
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Using this season's reasoning and scaling where would Goku and Superman end up ranking among the other combatants?
Assuming DBH is 2-A (via Trunks vs Silver) and DB will consider Supes comparable to Martian Manhunter and Black Adam (because he canonically is)

  1. Jean Grey & Raven (Equal to each other according to the episode, Jean is the strongest amongst Marvel’s cosmic hierarchy)
  2. Marvel/DC Heralds (Superman, Martian Manhunter, Silver Surfer, Rocket Raccoon’s weaponry, Atom, Ant-Man) (Scale to an Omniversal cosmology of equal scope)
  3. The Doctor (High 1-B)
  4. Xeno Goku (Multiversal+ + massive scaling chain)
  5. Bill (Multiversal+, Stronger than Discord for unexplained reasons)
  6. Discord (Multiversal+)
  7. Scooby & Courage (Can destroy a gazillion universes, equal to each other)
  8. Frieza (Can destroy Universe 7 + massive scaling chain)
  9. Dragonborn (Low Multiversal) (I think? Scales to “Multiple infinities”)
  10. Chosen Undead, Stitch, Megatron and Rick’s strongest weaponry (Universal)
  11. Obito (13 Yottatons)
  12. Darth Vader (12 Yottatons)
  13. Dimitri (3.27 Gigatons, Island level)
  14. Misaka (333 Megatons, Mountain level)
  15. Cole MacGrath (7 Megatons)
  16. Gojo (832 Kilotons)
  17. Guts (687 Kilotons)
  18. Alex Mercer (450 kilotons)
  19. Makima (412 Kilotons)
  20. Killua (3.29 Kilotons)
 
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Assuming DBH is 2-A (via Trunks vs Silver) and DB will consider Supes comparable to Martian Manhunter and Black Adam (because he canonically is)

  1. Jean Grey & Raven (Equal to each other according to the episode, Jean is the strongest amongst Marvel’s cosmic hierarchy)
  2. Marvel/DC Heralds (Superman, Martian Manhunter, Silver Surfer, Rocket Raccoon’s weaponry, Atom, Ant-Man) (Scale to an Omniversal cosmology of equal scope)
  3. The Doctor (High 1-B)
  4. Xeno Goku (Multiversal+ + massive scaling chain)
  5. Bill (Multiversal+, Stronger than Discord for unexplained reasons)
  6. Discord (Multiversal+)
  7. Scooby & Courage (Can destroy a gazillion universes, equal to each other)
  8. Frieza (Can destroy Universe 7 + massive scaling chain)
  9. Dragonborn (Low Multiversal) (I think? Scales to “Multiple infinities”)
  10. Chosen Undead, Stitch, Megatron and Rick’s strongest weaponry (Universal)
  11. Obito (13 Yottatons)
  12. Darth Vader (12 Yottatons)
  13. Dimitri (3.27 Gigatons, Island level)
  14. Misaka (333 Megatons, Mountain level)
  15. Gojo (832 Kilotons)
  16. Guts (687 Kilotons)
  17. Cole MacGrath (>Alex)
  18. Alex Mercer (450 kilotons)
  19. Makima (412 Kilotons)
  20. Killua (3.29 Kilotons)
Cole had a calc in the episode that put him at seven megatons
 
Assuming DBH is 2-A (via Trunks vs Silver) and DB will consider Supes comparable to Martian Manhunter and Black Adam (because he canonically is)
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Marvel/DC Heralds (Superman, Martian Manhunter, Silver Surfer, Rocket Raccoon’s weaponry, Atom, Ant-Man) (Scale to an Omniversal cosmology of equal scope)
As far as i remember, Atom and Rocket weren´t scaled to their full cosmology

The Doctor (High 1-B)
They don´t talked about The power of The Glory or anything similar

Bill (Multiversal+, Stronger than Discord for unexplained reasons)
Discord (Multiversal+)
"Bigger" cosmology

Scooby & Courage (Can destroy a gazillion universes, equal to each other)
I don´t understand how a universal feat became a feat where Scooby and Shaggy destroyed 11 quintillion times our universe lmao
 
  1. This doesn’t contradict what I said lol. Superman can simultaneously be weaker than him but have a comparable strength level.
  2. This statement isn’t consistent, Superman is normally stronger or at least equal to MM:

TBF, Superman is extremely humble. Most of the League usually says they're scared to face one another in combat.
 

Yo...hearing Xander Mobus as the Man of Steel in the episode is going to set my hype thrusters up. And no diss to my boi Masako, but I am seriously glad that DB didn't do go for a cheap shot by having Masako voice Goku since his voice doesn't really fit stuff that aren't comedic to begin with.

That, and this may end up being a hot take here, and I'm sort of tired of hearing Abridged Goku everywhere....I get Abridged is a popular piece of the Dragon Ball fandom, but ******* hell I would rather hear a new voice as opposed to getting Masako for the umpteenth time
 
That, and this may end up being a hot take here, and I'm sort of tired of hearing Abridged Goku everywhere....I get Abridged is a popular piece of the Dragon Ball fandom, but ******* hell I would rather hear a new voice as opposed to getting Masako for the umpteenth time
How this a hot take ?
I never was fan of masakox Goku in the first place
It works a parody of Goku but as a legit VA Nah he just ain't it
 
Yo...hearing Xander Mobus as the Man of Steel in the episode is going to set my hype thrusters up. And no diss to my boi Masako, but I am seriously glad that DB didn't do go for a cheap shot by having Masako voice Goku since his voice doesn't really fit stuff that aren't comedic to begin with.

That, and this may end up being a hot take here, and I'm sort of tired of hearing Abridged Goku everywhere....I get Abridged is a popular piece of the Dragon Ball fandom, but ******* hell I would rather hear a new voice as opposed to getting Masako for the umpteenth time
I don’t think it’s controversial to say that Anymore. He’s good for doing a parody of Goku, but he can’t do it seriously or at least sell it.
 
Just because something is not accepted or is bunk here, doesn't mean it's not accepted anywhere else, I thought we've been down this road before ladies and gents.
It’s not a matter of “not accepted” it’s that the scans are literally fake 😭
Assuming DBH is 2-A (via Trunks vs Silver) and DB will consider Supes comparable to Martian Manhunter and Black Adam (because he canonically is)

  1. Jean Grey & Raven (Equal to each other according to the episode, Jean is the strongest amongst Marvel’s cosmic hierarchy)
  2. Marvel/DC Heralds (Superman, Martian Manhunter, Silver Surfer, Rocket Raccoon’s weaponry, Atom, Ant-Man) (Scale to an Omniversal cosmology of equal scope)
  3. The Doctor (High 1-B)
  4. Xeno Goku (Multiversal+ + massive scaling chain)
  5. Bill (Multiversal+, Stronger than Discord for unexplained reasons)
  6. Discord (Multiversal+)
  7. Scooby & Courage (Can destroy a gazillion universes, equal to each other)
  8. Frieza (Can destroy Universe 7 + massive scaling chain)
  9. Dragonborn (Low Multiversal) (I think? Scales to “Multiple infinities”)
  10. Chosen Undead, Stitch, Megatron and Rick’s strongest weaponry (Universal)
  11. Obito (13 Yottatons)
  12. Darth Vader (12 Yottatons)
  13. Dimitri (3.27 Gigatons, Island level)
  14. Misaka (333 Megatons, Mountain level)
  15. Cole MacGrath (7 Megatons)
  16. Gojo (832 Kilotons)
  17. Guts (687 Kilotons)
  18. Alex Mercer (450 kilotons)
  19. Makima (412 Kilotons)
  20. Killua (3.29 Kilotons)
the black boxes for Bill mention Infinite 4D+ and higher dimensional realms so he’s realistically 5D / 6D.

Stitch also scales vaguely above baseline universal due to power surge being an amp / multiplier

Ultraguy’s blog mentions for Rick the Octillion x Uni thing so he’d be above Scooby and Courage for finite multi since they’re quintillions of times. Megatron’s black boxes technically emphasize he heavily downscales Uni.

A lot of what’s in the lower tiers can be shifted around if you know the stats behind the scenes but with what’s solely in the episodes themselves this is fine.
 
Is there a MK vs Soulcaliber MU?
I mean Kratos Vs Kratos technically counts.

Outside Ivy and Nightmare/Inferno there aren't that many big names left to use (there was some Cervantes Vs Spinal interest awhile back but no major SC Vs MK MUs), tho I will admit Zasalamel Vs Geras is pretty creative. SC isn't as big as it once was (despite SC6 being well received), still in a better state than DoA (Dead or Alive) or Vitura Fighter (do peeps still remember that game?).
 
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