DEATH BATTLE! Accuracy Scale [Part 10, The more things change, the more they stay the same]

[Eseseso]

For Doctor Doom vs Lex Luthor, while the verdict is still absolutely accurate, I feel that the explanation could be better.

Something along the lines of:

"While the Post-Flashpoint Warsuit does have a massive power advantage and the ability to blitz Base Doom, Doom's magic gives him the speed to match the warsuit and High 3-A magical shields, as well as many different ways to hax stomp Lex into the ground. Also, both Ovoid Mind Transfer and High 1-B absorption go brr".

1. Warsuit Lex Post-Flashpoint is 4-B compared to Doom's 5-B (and magic only bumps Doom up to 5-A).

2. Doom's magic hax includes: Power Null, Mind Hax, Absorption, Deconstruction, Soul Hax, and Temporal BFR.

 

[Accelerated_Evolution]

Scooby-Doo vs Courage | Draw is the good outcome... except according to profiles thats impossible :V Wrong, Bad

Only per now...

 

[TMaakkonen]

They equalized stats for that one.

Not really, they did say Vegito was stronger by Potaras not needing Goku & Vegeta to be even in strength att.

So if Profiles point easy Gogeta sweep he wins?

I still think Carnage vs Lucy is wrong

Also carnage’s profile seems lacking as he’s faced nova, dr. Doom, firestar

That seems to be Dark Carnage which didnt exist att. Bafflingly Dark Carnage started like 2 weeks after the ep aired lol

Only per now...

If you make Scooby multiversal I'll give you angry emote stare :V

For Doctor Doom vs Lex Luthor, while the verdict is still absolutely accurate, I feel that the explanation could be better.

Something along the lines of:

"While the Post-Flashpoint Warsuit does have a massive power advantage and the ability to blitz Base Doom, Doom's magic gives him the speed to match the warsuit, as well as many different ways to hax stomp Lex into the ground, and both Ovoid Mind Transfer and High 1-B absorption go brr".

1. Warsuit Lex Post-Flashpoint is 4-B compared to Doom's 5-B.

2. Doom's magic hax includes: Power Null, Mind Hax, Absorption, Deconstruction, Soul Hax, and Temporal BFR.

Hmm I can expand LexDoom reasoning.

 

[Accelerated_Evolution]

If you make Scooby multiversal I'll give you angry emote stare :V

I sadly can´t, lol, The Zobryinski Triangle feat ins´t part of the main canon (Yes, Scooby-Doo has a canon)

 

[Eseseso]

Hmm I can expand LexDoom reasoning.

I mean, the current explanation of Doom being more powerful is too vague considering Lex has quite a few keys that are either 5-A (post Crisis) or 4-B (post Flashpoint), though considering the DC Heralds got upgraded recently to 2-C I wouldn't be surprised if that bumped up the AP of the warsuit.

The DB video states that Doom hax stomped Lex, so IMO the explanation should fit that.

Though if Doom's magic didn't make his speed Herald level MFTL+ (via scaling to On-Earth Mephisto and Doctor Strange), then he would actually have lost due to being absolutely speed blitzed by the warsuit.

 

[Hagane_no_Saiyajin]

Zelda vs Peach | Reason: We don't have canon Zelda profile as strange as it sounds, there's no OoT Zelda, Windwaker, Twilight Princess and etc. but even then we are all pretty sure via Zelda downgrades that Peach wins (a little correction, Zelda does have BoTW profile now, though there's a problem, BoTW didn't existed at the time of the episode, but still it's neat to have Zelda profile after so long time). Right, Good

Didn’t Peach get downgraded or something

 

[Dust_Collector]

Didn’t Peach get downgraded or something

She still dunks on Zelda, at least until we make a 5-A key for Dragon Zelda for her BOTW profile. Even then Zelda gets blitzed.

 

[TMaakkonen]

Didn’t Peach get downgraded or something

Yeah... but in hindsight thats unrankable due to no usable profiles for Zelda. Ooops :V

 

[Hagane_no_Saiyajin]

Natsu vs Ace | Reason: Well... Probably Ace should've won ATT, that's what I've heard. Wrong, Decent

I think this may need an update with all of the One Piece revisions happening (although wasn’t Natsu High 6-A anyway?)

Luigi vs Tails | Reason: Luigi got very abused on this episode and you probably think it still should be right..? Well, almost true, Luigi almost stomped Tails here since Emeralds and power ups were denied for this fight, however Archie Tails is Universe lvl so he still wins. Even still, game base Sonic characters have gained speed and hax buffs as well. Right, Decent

Another matchup with downgrades on Luigi’s end

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Not really, they did say Vegito was stronger by Potaras not needing Goku & Vegeta to be even in strength att.

I meant in the sense they used equalised base versions of Goku and Vegeta.

The Mu was which was the superior fusion, not Zamasu arz Vegito Vs Broly movie Gogeta

 

[Eseseso]

Now that Greek Kratos is Low 1-C even excluding Norse stuff (because hypertimeline), I don't think Kratos vs Spawn is accurate anymore.

 

[TMaakkonen]

Hmm Spawn has same keys in Low 1-C, but were those used in the DB? How do speed & abilities compare as well?

 

[Brogeefrong]

Spawn in his highest key is 6D while Kratos is 5D

 

[Abysswalker2126]

Not really, they did say Vegito was stronger by Potaras not needing Goku & Vegeta to be even in strength att.

So if Profiles point easy Gogeta sweep he wins?


That seems to be Dark Carnage which didnt exist att. Bafflingly Dark Carnage started like 2 weeks after the ep aired lol


If you make Scooby multiversal I'll give you angry emote stare :V


Hmm I can expand LexDoom reasoning.

Nope all those events were before dark carnage

Spider man maximum carnage 1994
Nova (2013) #26 2015
Magneto vol 3 #12 2014

 

[TMaakkonen]

Nope all those events were before dark carnage

Spider man maximum carnage 1994
Nova (2013) #26 2015
Magneto vol 3 #12 2014

Ehh the VSW Carnage profile uses 5-B stuff for Dark Carnage only, because from what I see VSW only has High 8-C Base Carnage, so I dont think Base has things to beat Lucy, even speed gap is huge. Unless Carnage's base abilities have a wincon somewhere.

Carnage would need CRT to get that stuff for his base.

 

[Genericstickman]

Only per now...

optinal equipment should probably include the nano Scooby Snacks from Get a Clue since that's canon to the Coolsville Continuity

 

[Accelerated_Evolution]

optinal equipment should probably include the nano Scooby Snacks from Get a Clue since that's canon to the Coolsville Continuity

Can you show the proof that It is part of the main canon?

 

[Hagane_no_Saiyajin]

Nothing on Ace vs Natsu?

 

[Genericstickman]

Can you show the proof that It is part of the main canon?

well good thing I just recently watched the entire series
in the episode Mystery Of The Missing Mystery Solvers the events of Scooby Doo and the Loch Ness Monster, Scooby-Doo Pirates Ahoy, Scooby-Doo and the Monster of Mexico are shown to be past mysteries Shaggy and Scooby have helped solve

 

[Hagane_no_Saiyajin]

You don't need much to talk here considering they're themselves claimed it wrong.

Not sure if this was grammatically correct

 

[TMaakkonen]

Not sure if this was grammatically correct

The old base I took had a lot of grammar errors lol

I'll fix it later.

 

[Hagane_no_Saiyajin]

Bowser vs Ganon | Reason: Zelda downgrades, Bowser blitz and one shot. Wrong, Bad

What version of Ganon was being used, because Bowser was downgraded

 

[Dust_Collector]

There was only two versions of Ganon when the episode was made so take a wild guess

 

[Hagane_no_Saiyajin]

Ryu vs Jin | Reason: No Patrick, meteor feat is not canon. But even with it, Jin has Island level stuff so he still wins. Wrong, Bad

Jin's back to being Multi-Continent again

 

[Hagane_no_Saiyajin]

There was only two versions of Ganon when the episode was made so take a wild guess

Triforce of Power Ganon?

 

[Dust_Collector]

Triforce of Power Ganon?

 

[Dust_Collector]

Granted no idea how Ganon is meant to win even with the downgrade, dudes got the AP advantage but he's a statue compared to Bowser in speed and Bowser do be having some decent sealing hax.

 

[Hagane_no_Saiyajin]

Tanjiro Kamado vs Johnathan Joestar | Reason: Tanjiro might have AP, but the Jojo is so-so much faster here. Right, Decent

Demon Slayer downgrades go brrr

 

[TMaakkonen]

Updated some bits.

Didnt update BowserGanon yet, but it seems Bowser still wins via speed & hax?

 

[Hagane_no_Saiyajin]

Jotaro vs Kenshiro | Reason: That moment when Jotaro wins by their logic, but anyway...yeah, Kenshiro should take this. Right, Decent

Shouldn't the research be considered bad here?

 

[Hagane_no_Saiyajin]

Goku vs Superman 2 | Reason: Current Supes is worth more universes than DBS Goku. Also Superman has limits :^) Right, Bad

Shouldn't this be for ATT though?

 

[Hagane_no_Saiyajin]

Twilight vs Raven | Reason: Considering how we have both atm. Twilight should've won. BUT, there's also Post-Crisis, who could probably blitz and beat Twilight, but since we don't have PC Raven profile it'll be mystery of how this case should've turn out. Iffy

And I guess this get downgraded to unrankable

 

[TMaakkonen]

Shouldn't this be for ATT though?

This was pre-Rebirth since GvS2 is 2015 ep so maybe.

But I believe PC Supes is worth 52 universes in 2-C?

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

But I believe PC Supes is worth 52 universes in 2-C?

Yes

 

[Hagane_no_Saiyajin]

But I believe PC Supes is worth 52 universes in 2-C?

How many universes is 2-C vs 2-B?

 

[Blunt_Claw]

How many universes is 2-C vs 2-B?

2-C is 2 to 1000 universes.
2-B is 1001 to any higher finite amount of universes.

 

[Hagane_no_Saiyajin]

boop

 

[Hagane_no_Saiyajin]

 

[Hagane_no_Saiyajin]

Bill Cipher vs Discord | This episode buffed Bill but Discord UNO reversed it with his own buffs. Wrong, Decent

Bill got upgraded to 1-B (just hoping it stays that way)

 

[Brogeefrong]

Bill got upgraded to 1-B (just hoping it stays that way)

Bill doesnt have Infinite speed yet and his dimensionality is still 3D, so he still loses to Discord