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Ain't it crazy that a building-sized behemoth that can cause tidal waves simply from emerging from the ocean is Wolf level fodder?
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STRONGEST One-Punch Man Discussion Thread!
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See. The current scaling is something like this:
Orochi < Saitama (one shots) < Psykorochi < Tatsumaki (one shots) < Sage Centipede (likely)
Now if we want to make PS close to SC we need to look at who scales to or near PS. And we have that AP wise (not counting dura neg martial arts):
AB Bang = Post-Darkshine Garou = PS
They are somewhat relative, although there's a few counterarguments like PS tanking God Slayer Fist (which contains dura neg techniques) while Bang got one shot from only a partial hit. This however is contradicted by Garou being able to one shot Bang even if he couldn't deal much damage with normal (not dura neg) blows, and Garou destroying PS's face (damaging more than he damaged Bang) with normal blows but not dealing a lot of damage which a technique that should be superior to RASRF, which he used to one shot Bang. No matter how you interpret it, the consensus and this wiki seems to suggest that these three are somewhat relative.
This is problematic because Bang said repeatedly that Saitama was the strongest individual he had ever met and much stronger than he is (by virtue of seeing him destroy the meteor, which he could not believe at first glance). Then Genos, who also saw Saitama destroy the meteor (and actually assesses the destruction level more accurately than Bang, as stated in the databook and the manga, saying that he nullified most of the meteor's energy) believed Saitama should bring Tatsumaki and the other S class heroes in order to fight Gouketsu. This means:
AB Bang < Saitama (meteor) < Gouketsu
which of course leads to this full scaling:
AB Bang = Post Darkshine Garou = Platinum Sperm < Saitama (meteor) < Gouketsu < Orochi < Saitama (one shot) < Psykorochi < Tatsumaki (one shot) < Sage Centipede (likely).
There is no way that PS is portrayed to be as high as SC. And there's also the fact that Genos could sense Garou's inmense energy levels (right when he punches PS) but couldn't measure Psykorochi's initial beam because it was too high. That's my full reasoning as to why there's circular scaling there.
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There’s nothing circular about a likely far higher.
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But your justification for that was that he damaged SC right after fighting PS, and I've proven they are leagues apart.
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Even back when Plat was low 6-B, your reasoning wouldn’t really interfere with that
Still not seeing why likely far higher wouldn’t be possible
Still not seeing why likely far higher wouldn’t be possible
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What do you guys think some of the most underrated feats in OPM are? I am not talking about purely AP and Speed stuff but about things like skill and intelligence as well. There are many but I feel like the fact that Platinum Sperm overcame tens of trillions of consciousnesses is very overlooked. That guy needs Supernatural Willpower.
Some of other feats I feel like that often go unmentioned are Saitama calculating his jump from Moon, Iaian cutting tens of thousands hair strands blindfolded and Sonic's stealth feats.
Some of other feats I feel like that often go unmentioned are Saitama calculating his jump from Moon, Iaian cutting tens of thousands hair strands blindfolded and Sonic's stealth feats.
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Paradiser casually destroying a skyscraper
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Chain n toad damaging Garou and snek dodging a hit from deep sea king 
Also Boros doing everything
Also Boros doing everything
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Garou being damaged by falling arrows is even more wild. I hope the poison is actually acid or something and that's why it went through Garou's skin.Chain n toad damaging Garou and snek dodging a hit from deep sea king
Also Boros doing everything
I don't buy into the idea that Garou of all people has a weakness to piercing damage.
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7-C A class heroes with weapons (and resonance9-C durability Garou
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Yeah, and this is a hard pill to swallow but he's most likely stronger than the Tats who one shot Psykorochi as well.
I believe full power Tats to be higher than that, but who knows.
I believe full power Tats to be higher than that, but who knows.
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Golden Ball, Spring Moustachio, arrows and bullets from those archer and cowboy heroes, Stinger's weapon, Royal Ripper...
All of these people were shown to be easily one shotted by Garou but could still pierce through him with their bladed weaponry so he does indeed have a piercing damage weakness
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metal bat simply harnesses the saitama and glasses method of pushing his limits with fighting spirit, which allows him to surpass Flashy
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Captain Mizuki being 9-B feels wrong
for one, rhino wrestler power levels obviously probably aren't linear, but 30 is still a hell of a lot more than some of the rest besides Iaian and Atomic got
she should probably be comparable to the darkshine fans, who are stated to be beyond the average pro hero
unfortunately I don't know if there's enough evidence here to prove that they're stronger than Snek, even though it seems like they easily should be
any ideas?
for one, rhino wrestler power levels obviously probably aren't linear, but 30 is still a hell of a lot more than some of the rest besides Iaian and Atomic got
she should probably be comparable to the darkshine fans, who are stated to be beyond the average pro hero
unfortunately I don't know if there's enough evidence here to prove that they're stronger than Snek, even though it seems like they easily should be
any ideas?
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What...? Why in the world would they be stronger than Snek?
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It's pretty consistent in OPM that piercing damage is a thing. Garou has been pierced by many other weapons too. The only character that seems to not really acknowledge it (besides Saitama obv) is Darkshine.
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These guys are random athletic fodder, just some trained, but by all means, regular humans (by OPM standards). Mizuki is comparable to them, probably a bit stronger as she is more combat tuned whereas they are just bodybuilders. She got a higher rating than some A-Class Heroes but that doesn't automatically mean she is better than them in virtually any way, the main thing is that we literally have no idea how Rhino Wrestler determines these ratings, if the A-Class were even going all out, and so on. It's WAAAY too vague to scale her. Besides which, if she was that powerful, why isn't she just an A-Class.
However, what I would say is that B-Class Heroes should probably get a buff. It's directly stated that, on average, only 1 B-Class is necessary for a Wolf level Monster, a statement which is very consistently conveyed in the series (I could name a few examples that support this off the top of my head). Which means that B-Class Heroes should scale to the Seafolk and Piggy Bancon, who are all deemed Wall+ level and likely teetering into small building level. At that, I'm rather shocked that the Messenger of the Seafolk is only Wall+, like my guy he is the size of a small building and created a tidal wave by just emerging from the ocean. And the idea that he might have been higher than Wolf level is kind of negated by the fact that it was the narrator who stated this, not the Hero Association, which more so suggests we've just been downplaying Wolf level's this whole time. I mean, the idea that they're just vaguely stronger than regular humans to some extent was never really suggested at any point. ONE himself said that as a Hero in the OPM world he would have absolutely 0 chance against a Wolf level threat of any kind and would only be useful for picking up trash.
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The tidal wave was the thing calced at Wall level+, and like the Seafolk Messenger is 5 meter tall. Even with GPE, this isn't going anywhere above 9-B
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Snek is just built different
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I know it was, I just think that's a bit surprising that causing a whole ass tidal wave that seemed to sink or at least greatly displace a big boat in the background, by just like, coming out of the water, not attacking or anything, doesn't suggest the possession of enough power to destroy a small building, with him literally being the size of an entire two story house. What the hell does the wiki consider a small building?
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Yes. Around 4 hours later
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maybe something like "Mizuki was the strongest of the heroes stated to have S class potential as well as being one of darkshine's fans, who are stated to be stronger than the average pro hero and are contacted in times of emergency. Due to this, she could possibly be stronger than Snek who is the lowest in A class and noted by Suiryu to even be weaker than Lighting Max"
but getting that to go through on here would be a chore, so idk
But yeah probably
but getting that to go through on here would be a chore, so idk
well yeah, but literally anybody can be a hero with training considering the existence of mumen rider and those guys that deep sea king one shot
Rhino Wrestler explicitly ranks them on how strong their attacks were, and Mizuki was the only one to reach 30 outside of Iaian. Literally why would they hold back anything when they’re ganging up as a group and getting their asses kicked while desperately trying to beat him. I think the purpose is obvious, and it’s showing that among the lower class raid heroes she was the strongest.
She was explicitly part of the surface team that had hidden potential not reflected by their current ranking, and was the strongest of said team besides gearsper who at his peak would technically be worthy of S class
C class fodder being below a normal grizzly bear moment
But yeah probably
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New chapter
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We can finally move onto the heavenly ninja party arc
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Btw, we if take the rumor of charanko as true and blast and his friends created a super sized black hole. How strong would that be quantified?
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Wait. Is there something like that in raws or are you just assuming stuff?
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Yeah In the raws, but it said that in the webcomic too.
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rover is so fvckong vased…
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I am not talking about Charanko's speech. I am talking about the part about Blast. There isn't anything like that in webcomic.
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Ah well that part would be half assumption. Only because if it is a black hole they created it since it wasn’t there prior.
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I just did a rough calculation and it is actually lower than Saitama's current lifting strength. Lmao
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Yeah, a black hole with a 1 meter schwarzchild radius should only be 1.04x Saturn weight, so 2.08X Saturn and nowhere near dwarf star lifting strength
The serious table flip remains ridiculously impressive (Goku could never lol) but it's a great supporting feat given that Saitama's performing a very casual bench press with these black holes, presumably for lots of reps
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