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Death Battle Season Ten Discussion Thread (1) (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)

Also Kagami.....
Theglassman12 said:
@Peter_"Quicksilver"_Maximoff alright, you asked for it.
Raven, the first goth girlfriend many folks had in their childhood. And Jean Grey, the girl who's moaning in the X-men cartoon likely awakened something in numerous folks.
When it comes to comic book heroines, none have ever reached the type of uhh... popularity as much as these two girls.
He's **** and I'm Coomstick, and it's our job to analyze their measurements, sex appeal, and fanart to figure out who would win... a Sex Battle.
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Theglassman12 said:
I finally finished the post "battle" analysis, beware as it's not for the feint of heart.
KO!!!!!!
Coomstick: You know ****, I never get used to how flexible birds can get in these situations.

****: There was a LOT going on here, both girls have been childhood crushes for a long time, and both end up having certain phases that make them dominant in more than one ways. However, what it c#ms down to, is a combination of numbers and data.

Coomstick: For starters, when it c#ms to overall fanart, Raven takes the “cake”. Regardless of what website you look up, NSFW or otherwise, Raven outnumbers Jean Grey 10:1, and that’s even including her Dark Phoenix form, which is literal Dommy Mommy status.

****: And while Jean Grey’s waist is nothing to scoff at, Raven’s Bust, Hips, and Cup size are simply too much for Jean to handle.



Coomstick: But that’s not all that is going for Raven. While Jean Grey is 5’6”, Raven is confirmed 5’11”, and as any wise man once said, a taller woman instantly has better sex appeal than others.

****: Now I know what some of you might be thinking, “Can’t the Phoenix Force stomp by virtue of its dominatrix behavior compared to Jean’s “s#bmissive and br@@dable” status”? While true that the Phoenix Force gives Jean a step up, this pales in comparison to Raven’s constant goth behavior, and somewhat tomboyish attitude, which gives just the edge she needed to win this “battle”.

****: Jean Grey is one of the sexiest heroines in all of fiction, all of that is nothing compared to Raven’s personality, measurements, and good ole fanart.

Coomstick: While Jean Grey was certainly X-quisite, Raven’s advantages were all in “Zinthos” with each other.

****: The winner, is Raven.

Don't ask me how I know the measurements, I know a guy.
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You down bad as f*** lmao
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Theglassman12 said:
I finally finished the post "battle" analysis, beware as it's not for the feint of heart.
KO!!!!!!
Coomstick: You know ****, I never get used to how flexible birds can get in these situations.

****: There was a LOT going on here, both girls have been childhood crushes for a long time, and both end up having certain phases that make them dominant in more than one ways. However, what it c#ms down to, is a combination of numbers and data.

Coomstick: For starters, when it c#ms to overall fanart, Raven takes the “cake”. Regardless of what website you look up, NSFW or otherwise, Raven outnumbers Jean Grey 10:1, and that’s even including her Dark Phoenix form, which is literal Dommy Mommy status.

****: And while Jean Grey’s waist is nothing to scoff at, Raven’s Bust, Hips, and Cup size are simply too much for Jean to handle.



Coomstick: But that’s not all that is going for Raven. While Jean Grey is 5’6”, Raven is confirmed 5’11”, and as any wise man once said, a taller woman instantly has better sex appeal than others.

****: Now I know what some of you might be thinking, “Can’t the Phoenix Force stomp by virtue of its dominatrix behavior compared to Jean’s “s#bmissive and br@@dable” status”? While true that the Phoenix Force gives Jean a step up, this pales in comparison to Raven’s constant goth behavior, and somewhat tomboyish attitude, which gives just the edge she needed to win this “battle”.

****: Jean Grey is one of the sexiest heroines in all of fiction, all of that is nothing compared to Raven’s personality, measurements, and good ole fanart.

Coomstick: While Jean Grey was certainly X-quisite, Raven’s advantages were all in “Zinthos” with each other.

****: The winner, is Raven.

Don't ask me how I know the measurements, I know a guy.
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Yo keep on with this shit lmao 😭
 
Deidalius said:
I am always willing to do lore drops and talk about myself but generally I haven't found the opportunity to do so.

Me being a Puerto Rican American has been public knowledge for a long time, but I guess people in general don't track down random things certain people say across every social media (Unless they want to get me banned from a random Discord server) so they don't find all the random facts about myself that I've said.

That and I generally don't state who am I since I have bad memory and I can't remember which people I've told random facts about myself.

Wait, how where does the Florida Man 2-A scale comes from? I am interesting to hear the reasoning.
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I can understand that, people don't know I'm from Uruguay and just assume I'm from the United States or something.
 
Theglassman12 said:
I finally finished the post "battle" analysis, beware as it's not for the feint of heart.
KO!!!!!!
Coomstick: You know ****, I never get used to how flexible birds can get in these situations.

****: There was a LOT going on here, both girls have been childhood crushes for a long time, and both end up having certain phases that make them dominant in more than one ways. However, what it c#ms down to, is a combination of numbers and data.

Coomstick: For starters, when it c#ms to overall fanart, Raven takes the “cake”. Regardless of what website you look up, NSFW or otherwise, Raven outnumbers Jean Grey 10:1, and that’s even including her Dark Phoenix form, which is literal Dommy Mommy status.

****: And while Jean Grey’s waist is nothing to scoff at, Raven’s Bust, Hips, and Cup size are simply too much for Jean to handle.



Coomstick: But that’s not all that is going for Raven. While Jean Grey is 5’6”, Raven is confirmed 5’11”, and as any wise man once said, a taller woman instantly has better sex appeal than others.

****: Now I know what some of you might be thinking, “Can’t the Phoenix Force stomp by virtue of its dominatrix behavior compared to Jean’s “s#bmissive and br@@dable” status”? While true that the Phoenix Force gives Jean a step up, this pales in comparison to Raven’s constant goth behavior, and somewhat tomboyish attitude, which gives just the edge she needed to win this “battle”.

****: Jean Grey is one of the sexiest heroines in all of fiction, all of that is nothing compared to Raven’s personality, measurements, and good ole fanart.

Coomstick: While Jean Grey was certainly X-quisite, Raven’s advantages were all in “Zinthos” with each other.

****: The winner, is Raven.

Don't ask me how I know the measurements, I know a guy.
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ayo where's my credit I helped the research ;-;
 
On other unrelated news I been trying to think of matchups involving STC Sonic that don't involve his Super Form...

Does anybody know of a Hero character who's kind of a dick but still a good person? I been trying to think some but my brain is going blanks at the moment.

And by kind of a dick I meant that they're mean, not that they did shady shit.
 
WeeklyBattles said:
Look at the updated profile

Also Juubito requires prep and thus shouldnt be available for Obito to use

Vader's mind hax are vastly superior to obito's

Vader's lightsaber is 5-6x hotter than anything obito was shown to resist

And no, vader both has a resistance to madder erasure and nothing stops him from just halting the TSB with telekinesis
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"Juubito requires prep"
irrelevant in a battle when pitting the characters in their peak forms.

"vader's mind hax are vastly superior"
According to what metric? Layers are more important than number of people afflicted, and genjutsu is multi-layered, attacking all senses of the victim (including the sixth sense), their memories, even their thought process/free will. The Mangekyo Sharingan and Rinnegan defeat these wholesale, even illusions like the regular Tsukuyomi that control a victim's perception of time.

"lightsaber is 5-6x hotter"
Amaterasu is stated to be the same temperature as the Sun, though which part (surface vs. core) isn't stated, and it instantly vaporized a significant piece of steel, whereas even at the temperature steel vaporizes (which is 2800 Celsius), it would take a considerably longer period of heat exposure to produce the same results shown in the canon. That said, going back to the statement about being the same temperature as the sun--that could mean Amaterasu could be anywhere from 6,000 Celsius to 15,000,000 Celsius (the difference between the surface temperature and core temp of the sun). Lightsabers canonically burn from 8,000-20,000 Celsius. At MOST that's a 3x difference, assuming lowest possible temperature for Amaterasu and highest for the lightsaber, and isn't very impressive--Obito would still resist the saber significantly, and it wouldn't be able to bypass his regeneration.

"Vader resists matter erasure and nothing stops him from just halting the TSB with TK"
Vader resists sub-atomic matter manipulation, true, but he does not resist the outright Existence Erasure of the TSBs. The TSBs would also be unaffected by telekinesis, because it isn't a Sage jutsu.
 
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Theglassman12 said:
I finally finished the post "battle" analysis, beware as it's not for the feint of heart.
KO!!!!!!
Coomstick: You know ****, I never get used to how flexible birds can get in these situations.

****: There was a LOT going on here, both girls have been childhood crushes for a long time, and both end up having certain phases that make them dominant in more than one ways. However, what it c#ms down to, is a combination of numbers and data.

Coomstick: For starters, when it c#ms to overall fanart, Raven takes the “cake”. Regardless of what website you look up, NSFW or otherwise, Raven outnumbers Jean Grey 10:1, and that’s even including her Dark Phoenix form, which is literal Dommy Mommy status.

****: And while Jean Grey’s waist is nothing to scoff at, Raven’s Bust, Hips, and Cup size are simply too much for Jean to handle.



Coomstick: But that’s not all that is going for Raven. While Jean Grey is 5’6”, Raven is confirmed 5’11”, and as any wise man once said, a taller woman instantly has better sex appeal than others.

****: Now I know what some of you might be thinking, “Can’t the Phoenix Force stomp by virtue of its dominatrix behavior compared to Jean’s “s#bmissive and br@@dable” status”? While true that the Phoenix Force gives Jean a step up, this pales in comparison to Raven’s constant goth behavior, and somewhat tomboyish attitude, which gives just the edge she needed to win this “battle”.

****: Jean Grey is one of the sexiest heroines in all of fiction, all of that is nothing compared to Raven’s personality, measurements, and good ole fanart.

Coomstick: While Jean Grey was certainly X-quisite, Raven’s advantages were all in “Zinthos” with each other.

****: The winner, is Raven.

Don't ask me how I know the measurements, I know a guy.
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BlastX said:
On other unrelated news I been trying to think of matchups involving STC Sonic that don't involve his Super Form...

Does anybody know of a Hero character who's kind of a dick but still a good person? I been trying to think some but my brain is going blanks at the moment.

And by kind of a dick I meant that they're mean, not that they did shady shit.
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There's Dante from the DmC reboot.
 
A_Stoned_Orc said:
"Juubito requires prep" irrelevant in a battle when pitting the characters in their peak forms.
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Problem with that is that Vader was not at his peak nor did he have his stronger form allowed as they said it was non-standard. Peak Vader is when he is linked with the well of Force energy on Mortis, and he didnt have access to his Dark Dimension form, so by this argument you agree that Vader was downplayed.
A_Stoned_Orc said:
"vader's mind hax are vastly superior" According to what metric? Layers are more important than number of people afflicted, and genjutsu is multi-layered, attacking all six senses of the victim (including the sixth sense).
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Vader's is superior in both numerical value and in layered resistances, and even basic Star Wars mental manipulation affects all of the senses and perceptions of the target including force-based extrasensory senses in the case of a stronger force user manipulating a weaker one.
A_Stoned_Orc said:
"lightsaber is 5-6x hotter" Amaterasu is stated to be the same temperature as the Sun, though which part (surface vs. core) isn't stated, and it instantly vaporized a significant piece of steel, whereas even at the temperature steel vaporizes (which is 2800 Celsius), it would take a considerably longer period of heat exposure to produce the same results shown in the canon. That said, going back to the statement about being the same temperature as the sun--that could mean Amaterasu could be anywhere from 6,000 Celsius to 15,000,000 Celsius (the difference between the surface temperature and core temp of the sun). Lightsabers canonically burn from 8,000-20,000 Celsius. At MOST that's a 3x difference, assuming lowest possible temperature for Amaterasu and highest for the lightsaber, and isn't very impressive--Obito would still resist the saber significantly.
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Not sure where youre getting your info from but Lightsaber blades are anywhere from 18,000 Celsius to 25,000 Celsius, Obito would not be resisting the heat of a lightsaber.
A_Stoned_Orc said:
Vader resists sub-atomic matter manipulation, true, but he does not resist the outright Existence Erasure of the TSBs. The TSBs would also be unaffected by telekinesis because it's not a direct physical attack or powered by sage jutsu.
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He does resist it yes, Dark Reaper and Dark Side Tendrils are both Force techniques that erase matter from existence and anyone with halfway decent Force Resistance can resist them. Not sure why it would have to be a direct physical attack, Vader's telekinesis can directly halt energy attacks, and he has a handful of abilities specifically designed to counteract energy attacks.
 
BlastX said:
I can understand that, people don't know I'm from Uruguay and just assume I'm from the United States or something.
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I assumed the same thing lol, I didn't know you're Uruguayan.
ZeNoviceArtist said:
This sponsorship is brought to you by Adam and Eve.
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Man that reminds me. I was watching Death Battle with my cousin and an Adam and Eve ad came up and I had to explain to him why I skipped it. I don't remember the details but it was pretty much a "Hey lil guy, I had to skip this ad because it promoted sexual themes"
BlastX said:
On other unrelated news I been trying to think of matchups involving STC Sonic that don't involve his Super Form...

Does anybody know of a Hero character who's kind of a dick but still a good person? I been trying to think some but my brain is going blanks at the moment.

And by kind of a dick I meant that they're mean, not that they did shady shit.
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Hmm asshole heroes? My first thought was Kazuma though he is an awful person.

After reading the list of anime I've watched, I realized I don't play many games and I mostly just watch anime.
Hajime from Arifureta
Izayoi from mondaiji
Accelerator from Toaru
Ayanokouji Kiyotaka from Cote
Most Jojo protagonists
Bakugo from mha
Are all dicks that are still heroes

I am pretty sure several Touhou girls are assholes that are still heroes but none have an evil dark super form

You're better off asking another person haha, I doubt I can give good help.
 
Having an evil dark super form isn't needed, I kinda want to avoid that because I want to focus on Sonic himself, not his Super Form...

Though Jotaro could actually work.
 
BlastX said:
On other unrelated news I been trying to think of matchups involving STC Sonic that don't involve his Super Form...

Does anybody know of a Hero character who's kind of a dick but still a good person? I been trying to think some but my brain is going blanks at the moment.

And by kind of a dick I meant that they're mean, not that they did shady shit.
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Wally West
 
WeeklyBattles said:
Problem with that is that Vader was not at his peak nor did he have his stronger form allowed as they said it was non-standard. Peak Vader is when he is linked with the well of Force energy on Mortis, and he didnt have access to his Dark Dimension form, so by this argument you agree that Vader was downplayed.

Vader's is superior in both numerical value and in layered resistances, and even basic Star Wars mental manipulation affects all of the senses and perceptions of the target including force-based extrasensory senses in the case of a stronger force user manipulating a weaker one.

Not sure where youre getting your info from but Lightsaber blades are anywhere from 18,000 Celsius to 25,000 Celsius, Obito would not be resisting the heat of a lightsaber.

He does resist it yes, Dark Reaper and Dark Side Tendrils are both Force techniques that erase matter from existence and anyone with halfway decent Force Resistance can resist them. Not sure why it would have to be a direct physical attack, Vader's telekinesis can directly halt energy attacks, and he has a handful of abilities specifically designed to counteract energy attacks.
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His "dark dimension form" was just a vision, anyway, I thought.

Without context as to the layers (I at least gave context for Obito's layered resistance), it just sounds like Force mind manip accomplishes the same things basic genjutsu does, which doesn't really help your arguement.

That's still a 3-4x difference at best, assuming lowest possible temp for Amaterasu and highest for the lightsaber, but I would argue that Amaterasu is right up there with the saber based on performance.

Dark Reaper isn't a Force techinque, it's a technological weapon, and it doesn't erase you from existence, all it does is drain Force energy. https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Dark_Reaper

Dark Side Tendrils are stated to "annihilate matter", but this doesn't equate to the bonafide, layered existense erasure of the TSB. https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Dark_side_tendrils

TSB wouldn't be affected by telekinesis because it's powered by the Force and not Senjutsu.
 
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BlastX said:
Having an evil dark super form isn't needed, I kinda want to avoid that because I want to focus on Sonic himself, not his Super Form...

Though Jotaro could actually work.
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Yeah, Jotaro was a dick as a teen but it was just angsty teenage delinquent things. He actually cares a lot about his mother and others, he's just ashamed of expressing himself.

You can probably find an alternate version of Jotaro that can make it fairer. Maybe Jotaro with star platinum over heaven? Novel Jotaro? (Does it even give him good stats?)
Tipper17 said:
Man wtf be going on here 💀
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Chaos! Chaos! Lovely and amusing chaos!
 
A_Stoned_Orc said:
"Juubito requires prep"
irrelevant in a battle when pitting the characters in their peak forms.

"vader's mind hax are vastly superior"
According to what metric? Layers are more important than number of people afflicted, and genjutsu is multi-layered, attacking all senses of the victim (including the sixth sense), their memories, even their thought process/free will. The Mangekyo Sharingan and Rinnegan defeat these wholesale, even illusions like the regular Tsukuyomi that control a victim's perception of time.

"lightsaber is 5-6x hotter"
Amaterasu is stated to be the same temperature as the Sun, though which part (surface vs. core) isn't stated, and it instantly vaporized a significant piece of steel, whereas even at the temperature steel vaporizes (which is 2800 Celsius), it would take a considerably longer period of heat exposure to produce the same results shown in the canon. That said, going back to the statement about being the same temperature as the sun--that could mean Amaterasu could be anywhere from 6,000 Celsius to 15,000,000 Celsius (the difference between the surface temperature and core temp of the sun). Lightsabers canonically burn from 8,000-20,000 Celsius. At MOST that's a 3x difference, assuming lowest possible temperature for Amaterasu and highest for the lightsaber, and isn't very impressive--Obito would still resist the saber significantly, and it wouldn't be able to bypass his regeneration.

"Vader resists matter erasure and nothing stops him from just halting the TSB with TK"
Vader resists sub-atomic matter manipulation, true, but he does not resist the outright Existence Erasure of the TSBs. The TSBs would also be unaffected by telekinesis, because it isn't a Sage jutsu.
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The Force can be compared to senjutsu which counter TSO, Vader affects them with TK. I think Ligthsabers have statements of having heat compared to a star on the g1 blog

I agree with everything else you said tho.
 
Theglassman12 said:
I finally finished the post "battle" analysis, beware as it's not for the feint of heart.
KO!!!!!!
Coomstick: You know ****, I never get used to how flexible birds can get in these situations.

****: There was a LOT going on here, both girls have been childhood crushes for a long time, and both end up having certain phases that make them dominant in more than one ways. However, what it c#ms down to, is a combination of numbers and data.

Coomstick: For starters, when it c#ms to overall fanart, Raven takes the “cake”. Regardless of what website you look up, NSFW or otherwise, Raven outnumbers Jean Grey 10:1, and that’s even including her Dark Phoenix form, which is literal Dommy Mommy status.

****: And while Jean Grey’s waist is nothing to scoff at, Raven’s Bust, Hips, and Cup size are simply too much for Jean to handle.



Coomstick: But that’s not all that is going for Raven. While Jean Grey is 5’6”, Raven is confirmed 5’11”, and as any wise man once said, a taller woman instantly has better sex appeal than others.

****: Now I know what some of you might be thinking, “Can’t the Phoenix Force stomp by virtue of its dominatrix behavior compared to Jean’s “s#bmissive and br@@dable” status”? While true that the Phoenix Force gives Jean a step up, this pales in comparison to Raven’s constant goth behavior, and somewhat tomboyish attitude, which gives just the edge she needed to win this “battle”.

****: Jean Grey is one of the sexiest heroines in all of fiction, all of that is nothing compared to Raven’s personality, measurements, and good ole fanart.

Coomstick: While Jean Grey was certainly X-quisite, Raven’s advantages were all in “Zinthos” with each other.

****: The winner, is Raven.

Don't ask me how I know the measurements, I know a guy.
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www.resetera.com

The top 100 most "pornified" franchises and fictional characters

I found these posts on reddit. What do you think of the lists? https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/14jmn2h/oc_the_top_100_most_pornified_franchises_this/ https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/14k2nln/oc_one_more_followup_post_the_top_100_most/
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Oh looks like Raven stomps harder against Phoenix in some departments than we think.

That said, only pre-flashpoint Raven is 5'11". Post-Flashpoint Raven is 5'6" just like Jean Grey. However it is still remarked that Raven has more varieties in styles of costumes and clothing, making her more attacctive.
 
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Theglassman12 said:
I finally finished the post "battle" analysis, beware as it's not for the feint of heart.
KO!!!!!!
Coomstick: You know ****, I never get used to how flexible birds can get in these situations.

****: There was a LOT going on here, both girls have been childhood crushes for a long time, and both end up having certain phases that make them dominant in more than one ways. However, what it c#ms down to, is a combination of numbers and data.

Coomstick: For starters, when it c#ms to overall fanart, Raven takes the “cake”. Regardless of what website you look up, NSFW or otherwise, Raven outnumbers Jean Grey 10:1, and that’s even including her Dark Phoenix form, which is literal Dommy Mommy status.

****: And while Jean Grey’s waist is nothing to scoff at, Raven’s Bust, Hips, and Cup size are simply too much for Jean to handle.



Coomstick: But that’s not all that is going for Raven. While Jean Grey is 5’6”, Raven is confirmed 5’11”, and as any wise man once said, a taller woman instantly has better sex appeal than others.

****: Now I know what some of you might be thinking, “Can’t the Phoenix Force stomp by virtue of its dominatrix behavior compared to Jean’s “s#bmissive and br@@dable” status”? While true that the Phoenix Force gives Jean a step up, this pales in comparison to Raven’s constant goth behavior, and somewhat tomboyish attitude, which gives just the edge she needed to win this “battle”.

****: Jean Grey is one of the sexiest heroines in all of fiction, but all of that is nothing compared to Raven’s personality, measurements, and good ole fanart.

Coomstick: While Jean Grey was certainly X-quisite, Raven’s advantages were all in “Zinthos” with each other.

****: The winner, is Raven.

Don't ask me how I know the measurements, I know a guy.
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