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BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion

Arc7Kuroi said:
Bankai Shunsui scales to TS Ichigo hurr durr 🤡
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Well no one claiming he scales to TS Ichigo.
Arc7Kuroi said:
Yes we are ignoring it, it's a cool moment, literally means nothing for scaling
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Well it does shows in war arc he probably had more Reatsu than others captains.

Only
Ichigo
Yama
Shunsui

These gave chill to others. Well i don't care about CFYOW scaling. I am only talking about war arc.
 
Arcker123 said:
More a range + hax feat

The chilling reiatsu is more due to a specific theatrical effect of the bankai (Like the sky turning black) than AP imo
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Well may be you are right. But I do think (only war arc) Shunsui as a captain had second highest Reastu. First would be Yama.
 
Isn't True Shikai Ichigo suppressed for most of the war anyway? I recall base Yoruichi unironically handling Askin's Deathdealing better than him because of this
 
Well strongest via ap Gerard yea i just think Lile erases him with trumpete, x-axis to his core or incon fight. Ap wise Gerard is above Gremmy but due to the hax nature of Lile i think he's the strongest in that regard. Lile would annihilate gremmy imo plus he's the leader of the elites Gremmy get's headshotted.

Gremmy vs Lile goes like this.

Gremmy: I imagined your gun can't pierce me
Lile: It doesnt pierce it just erases what in its line of sight
Gremmy: Oh. dead
 
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Arc7Kuroi said:
Jugram long conned Yhwach and used the Almighty against Yhwach without Yhwach knowing, Jugram definitely showed stuff
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You mean when he took Uryu's injuries and let him go to help against Yhwach?

I forgot about Uryu btw he is smart as well
 
Is the gremmy panel before the invasion of the royal palace? If it makes sense, at that moment he was the strongest Quincy. And after the reallocation of power in the quincy king's elite they became the strongest. Unless there is some other statement later in the novel stating that gremmy was the strongest quincy. Elites<Gremmy<Elites after power reallocation.
 
PrettyVixenGirl said:
Well strongest via ap Gerard yea i just think Lile erases him with trumpete, x-axis to his core or incon fight. Ap wise Gerard is above Gremmy but due to the hax nature of Lile i think he's the strongest in that regard. Lile would annihilate gremmy imo plus he's the leader of the elites Gremmy get's headshotted.

Gremmy vs Lile goes like this.

Gremmy: I imagined your gun can't pierce me
Lile: It doesnt pierce it just erases what in its line of sight
Gremmy: Oh. dead
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No kenpachi can cutt space-time and matter and kubo still said he's incapable of destroying it. So I doubt the X-axis is doing anything
 
Does lile leave behind anything when his gun pierces? Based on how he explained, like a delete button for whatever is inside. So it is actually doing damage (destruction) or is it erasing everything in line of sight utterly leaving behind nothing? Do we have the answer on the specifics on the x-Axis? Im assuming it does not erase only ignore durability?
 
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Wasnt it written on the side of the manga page that: the strongest of the Shinigami and the strongest of the Quincy clash( kenny vs Gerard).
 
EldemadeDityjon said:
War Arc* only i am talking about. My basis is based on how their Reastu was interpreted by others in the war.
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It’s still Kenpachi. His power was so great the strongest Sternritter prior to maybe Vollstandig God Size Gerard blew himself up and couldn’t comprehend a body that could contain it. That’s how Gremmy interpreted Kenpachi’s and Quincy sensitivity to Reiatsu >>> a Shinigami’s.
 
Couldn't Gremmy's statement be used to argue post-Unohana Training Kenpachi > base Yhwach?:unsure:
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He literally states that only Kenpachi's body could handle his power, and Gremmy is obviously aware of Yhwach and was imprisoned by him.
 
Purgy said:
Couldn't Gremmy's statement be used to argue post-Unohana Training Kenpachi > base Yhwach?:unsure:
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He literally states that only Kenpachi's body could handle his power, and Gremmy is obviously aware of Yhwach and was imprisoned by him.
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Gremmy was sealed by Yhwach of course he is weaker than him 💀
 
Gremmy power too hard to judge to me as he can do things like make clones to make himself stronger in ap or use his imagination to do that like making himself sturdier. Though like i always say he would be the strongest if i felt he used his powers better. Like any imagination manifestation/reality warper user. If he were a Kisuke, Mayuri, Aizen or even Unohana using his powers would be scary. But because i feel like he slacks when he uses them i put him below elites except maybe pernida but that's just me
 
PrettyVixenGirl said:
Gremmy power too hard to judge to me as he can do things like make clones to make himself stronger in ap or use his imagination to do that like making himself sturdier. Though like i always say he would be the strongest if i felt he used his powers better. Like any imagination manifestation/reality warper user. If he were a Kisuke, Mayuri, Aizen or even Unohana using his powers would be scary. But because i feel like he slacks when he uses them i put him below elites except maybe pernida but that's just me
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I think Yhwach sealed him because of imagination running wild free. But I don't think generally he is above Elites.

Elites power can be easily controlled but what if Gremmy imagines himself and breaks free of Yhwach control. May be that made him some fear some in yhwach case
 
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