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To clear this up slightly, Dust in RWBY is quite literally just natural elements in a crystalized form, in the case of Hard Light Dust it is the element of light in a crystalized form. When used in a raw state, Dust projects its respective elements (Lightning dust projects lightning, fire dust projects fire, ice dust projects ice, hard light dust projects ice), while in a processed state they are used in other ways (All Dust in a processed form can be made into bullets and other weapons, fire dust can be made into explosives, light dust can be used to make barriers and weapon constructs, etc.), while also being used in conventional non-weapon applications (hardlight dust being used in cameras and phones, fire dust being used in heating systems, lightning dust being used to power infrastructure, gravity dust being used to make airships fly, etc.).
Yes, she fired a beam of raw hard light dust (ie. natural light) from a hard light dust construct
Yeah, she did fire light from those constructs like Penny's laser as it wasn't solid like the constructs
So, overall, you’d agree that the RWBYverse has good standing to be at rela?
The ke thing doesn't matter because of your three calcs that are town level, mountain level and large island level tbh
All good, sorry again that you ended up coming back to four pages of discussion lol
90% sure hes getting that from Hard Light Dust being crystalized natural light (as all Dust in RWBY is a crystalized natural element, with hard light dust being the element of light) but im not entirely sure
Can do
Its sorta just a thing in RWBY that non-dust based electricity just doesnt exist, everything that runs on electricity uses lightning dust as a power source, hell gasoline doesnt even exist in RWBY, vehicles run on combustion dust as fuel, theres even parts of the guidebook detailing the grievances of the art team developing entire original systems and engines that run on lightning and combustion dust only for them to never even be shown in the show itself
I mean, this would bump Haven arc RWBY up to Town level
Post haven would become town level via the sentinels who post haven team rwby killed (as it they killed them before their Atlas Arc weeks long training)
Consistency never hurts lol
Powered by hard light dust is not a qualifier for light speed, as I already said. You need to prove the power source is giving the weapon the properties of light, and THAT makes it a reliable source.
You have not procided any evidence, despite your claims. All you've done is repeat the same argument of "it is called light so it must be light" which is not satisfactory for the standards.
"Most things" being Velvet's weapon? That is the only hard light powered weapon that has been brought forth. Is this a statement that only her weapon and that laser canon are powered by hard light dust? Then does that not mean that Penny’s lasers and any other dust powered laser equipment needs to prove lightspeed on its own?
It’s not the name. It’s the description of the light itself. It being magic means absolutely nothing. Youre strawmanning so hard its unreal.
It has been proven but cool, even if theyre not light dust theyre still mechanical, which still qualifies for lightspeed. Dont like it? Take it up with the lightspeed standards.
Here is Velvet making lasers with her hard light dust.
Velvet Scarlatina
Velvet Scarlatina is a ?-aura unit in RWBY: Amity Arena. Unlocked at Mistral Village, Velvet Scarlatina is a unit that copies a previously deployed unit. A unit that copies a previously deployed unit. Miss Scarlatina, for the sake of gameplay, will copy abilities of other cards, even Semblances...amityarena.fandom.com
Even in her Amity Arena bio she is stated to copy the weapons of everyone in the game, including, guess what, the particle cannon of the spider droid and Penny's lasers.
What is the point of reposting the evidence for the twelfth time if youre just demonstrating the unwillingness to listen and willingly ignoring everything shown or explained to you?
Prove that lasers are raw light dust. Velvets weapon copies things, even recreating explosions, using the argument that she can
Why is this even being brought up, I don’t even talk about her eye wing thing. That is not my point against silver eyes at all, it is their magical nature and the stripping of context to just say “they’re called light so they’re light speed” that is my issue.
Are you serious? I’ve stayed nothing but respectful this entire time. My counter was constructed totally from logic and presented arguments, how is me showing shock over the length the thread had grown in a night setting a bad mood for my argument?? Am I supposed to be like Weekly and claim that all of my opponents arguments are false, threaten to copy paste my posts in response to other arguments I don’t like, refuse to provide evidence, LIE about evidence that I don’t have?
Incorrect, being stated as light is not sufficient evidence when dealing with fictional magic.
1. Refraction is not reflection.
The particle cannon is not comparable to Penny’s laser at all, you are conflating the two. Penny’s lasers are not stated to be made of photons at all, you are giving her a quality that she does not have by equating it to the particle cannon. And what currently accepted feats? Nothing in this thread has been accepted, it’s still being debated if they’re valid at all, especially silver eyes. You’re attempting to shut a case that is still wide open.Put simply, the fact that there is not a blatant lightspeed statement for the lasers is wholly irrelevant due to the lasers meeting the other criteria of lightspeed (source is from technology, stated to be a particle beam by the best scientists in the world, burns and cuts rather than generating force, travels only in straight lines, reflects off of reflective surfaces), as well as the now currently accepted feats of near light feats which further support the lasers being lightspeed.
Sorry to be blunt but making this claim is just wholly ignorant of Dust as a material in RWBY. Raw dust does in fact exist in-verse, it is what releases the natural elemental properties of Dust. Raw fire dust creates fire, raw lightning dust creates lightning, raw ice dust creates ice. Raw hard light dust creates light.
Already explained this multiple times but i guess i have to again because people dont listen; Velvet's constructs are the PROCESSED version of Hard Light Dust, while her camera flash and lasers are the RAW version of hard light dust.
It does yes, all Dust is naturally occurring, artificial Dust does not exist in RWBY.
Wrong
Velvet Scarlatina
Velvet Scarlatina is a ?-aura unit in RWBY: Amity Arena. Unlocked at Mistral Village, Velvet Scarlatina is a unit that copies a previously deployed unit. A unit that copies a previously deployed unit. Miss Scarlatina, for the sake of gameplay, will copy abilities of other cards, even Semblances...
"Being a small rabbit Faunus in one of Beacon's most illustrious teams of all time, Velvet feels like all eyes are on her. Incessant whispers about her inadequacy and veiled Faunus discrimination continuously scar her heart. To make matters worse, the combination of having an intelligence type Semblance, dependence on hard light Dust (the rarest Dust) for her camera, and losing precious photos of friends with each attack forces Velvet to take the backseat in most combat situations."
Just...very, very wrong. And that scan has been on this thread since page 1.
Same response as the first one, it has every property of lightspeed, not even going to bother repeating myself.
Its stated to be light, therefore it is light, magical or nonmagical, it is light. If you dont like this then feel free to try to downgrade verses like Black Clover for also having 'magical light'.
False. Her lasers meet four of the five criteria.
The partcle cannon is not named 'particle cannon', it is STATED TO BE ONE, by Atlas Scientists.
The wiki standards allow this to be considered lightspeed my guy, we even had a whole discussion in this thread about how lasers are able to be considered lightspeed if other lightspeed feats exist in the verse independent of the lasers
And now you’re claiming I’m making false arguments. Fantastic. I’m simply abiding by my own stance with the wiki and it’s light speed criteria.
And I have challenged this. On multiple fronts.
Why are these even being brought up? Not once has the wing blast been my argument against light speed silver eyes, it has always been their magical qualities. Being called light is not enough per wiki standards for magical sources of power.
Hard Light Dust scans for even having a raw form that produces natural light? The assumption would be that hard light dust produces hard light. And it’s contentious that it’s even a naturally occurring dust type as combinations exists.
No its not called light because its from the God of Light it literally just is a light however adding the actual God of Light whom this originates from into this makes this more consistent as he also uses this real Light and has consistency with actually being FTL in general, hell he's and his brother are the ones who literally made Dust after they left to replace the magic humanity had lost and dust is made of the literally natural elements in a crystal form so if we're being 100% here if this Hard Light dust exist it came from the literally god of light who just made real light into a crystal form and has shown to be ftl and consistently manipulate real light
It is called light because of its relation to him and the darkness. It is not called light because Maria knows the God of Light created all light in existence, it’s called that because of its role in the lore against the God of Darkness.
Bro it was called LIGHT way BEFORE THEY EVEN MET MARIA or found out about Ozpin DAWG it was literally called LIGHT IN THE VOLUME 3 FINALE and onwards before we even knew about the existence of the God of Light before even some of most reliable characters knew about him
My issue is literally not that it’s called light. My issue is that being called light is not enough when the light in question is magical. Maria’s explanation is the best source for information on the silver eyes, so when I make the claim that they need to prove light speed because they are magic, I would assume that is logical.
So the gods who literally manipulate the and created the natural elements of earth who sre FTL and have used real light and could turn it into something tangible in a raw natural state incased in crystal. Forget light even any natural occuring elements in dust in rwby was made by them they can literally use the actual natural element you're saying they can't use natural light tooo?
Where did you get that from?
Bro, the magic light is not the same as the light that the Gods made. That is my claim. It is a completely different function of the universe. You have to prove that they are the same speed, even if they are both considered to be light.
You say this yet you're taking Maria's word as this the number one authority that they literally are THE SAME LIGHT. Hear yourself right now bro you can't pick and choose what you want to be consistent
Magic light isn’t equivalent to natural light is literally my argument. It should be proves to be, not assumed just because it is called light. It being made from the same guys that made normal light is not evidence, because the properties are entirely different.
From the arguments youre making as well as the massive post you made above that im currently responding to, because your argument is 100% leading to the claim that "Hard Light Dust being called Hard Light Dust means forcefields are a naturally occurring element in nature"
She NEVER claims that the natural light around them and the light from the silver eyes are the same. She claims that their silver eyes are a power of the God of Light and that is why they kill Grimm. That is it.
Magic light that has no showings or reasoning to be comparable in speed to natural light other than being a product of the Universe. Magic light that has properties that normal light literally cannot have.
I guess the speed of light part of this profile should be removed then
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The god of light whom we've already established precedent for using real light or even being LS be it with magic or not actually no even **** that THEY BLITZED THE ENTIRE PLANET with their "magic" and wiped out everyone in a actual instant but you're saying that the magic cannot possibly be light speed or go that fast even if it exist from the the literal god of this verse whose justification I don't have to say again, has shown properties of light, and even presentation wise blitzes a much of MHS+ characters consistently isn't light because its magic...
When was that ever implied with any of my statements?
Is your only argument to bring up other versesI guess the speed of light part of this profile should be removed then
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SCP-001 is the designation given to the Sun, after an event resulting in ~6.8 billion casualties within the first twenty-four hours. The SCP-001 effect does not seem to result from exposure to ultraviolet rays, but rather light in the visual spectrum (~390 to 700 nm). The effect is similarly...
Just because the light form it mutates anything it hits
You keep bringing this up and it’s not changing anything.
Bro I type one thing and 4 people leave 4 replies each. I think it’s pretty obvious I’m not the one prolonging it
We literally already have done this you just aren't accepting it and arguing circular or did you miss the part where its consistently shown blitzing MHS+ characters and statueing them (even in slo mo scenes of it) or the point where it acts and dissipates the same as natural light carrying no mass or force, is called light as in a real light by reliable sources
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