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God of War: Ragnarok Discussion Thread

CrisisCrysis said:
Nope. In the second fight, Kratos was definitely holding back. Maybe not as much as the first fight, but both him and Mimir were trying to convince Thor to stop mid-battle.
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Exactly.

Not only that, there's also the full-powered, bloodlusted hammer blow to the face that Kratos got which he then just shrugged off like nothing ever happened in the rematch. Whereas this same hammer blow held back, "killed" his also-holding-back self because Kratos was too careless and made a mistake.

CrisisCrysis said:
Kratos won because he had a new weapon+he managed to restrain Thor with that dagger.
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The new weapons are just icing on the cake, and the dagger thing is just pointless in all honesty. End result is that this left Thor struggling to catch his breath while Kratos just... gets up and gives Thor a pep talk as if he had just taken a morning jog.
 
Odin sent Thrud from Asgard to Midgard by yeeting her with the Mjolnir. Does that mean the Mjolnir can open rifts/portals in Space-Time between the realms?
 
KLOL506 said:
Not sure, but prolly at least comparable to Trolls at the very least. Aside from the pillar feat
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What are some LS feats for trolls?
KLOL506 said:
Heimdall for sure, not even worth a debate at this point.
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Baldur wouldn't be able to do much, but I doubt Heimdall has a way to put him down.
CrisisCrysis said:
Odin sent Thrud from Asgard to Midgard by yeeting her with the Mjolnir. Does that mean the Mjolnir can open rifts/portals in Space-Time between the realms?
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🤔 Similar to how the leviathan axe can be recalled from other realms
 
CorneredHarbor said:
The only problem i had towards the end is that the Siege of Asgard was pathetically short. And Odin while a great fight felt kinda rushed.
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Yeah I think the final part in Asgard needed some more time, but overall the end of this game was great. Seeing Kratos choke up when he sees the mural depicting him being loved and worshipped was an amazing moment.
 
Gasper said:
I remember reading about atlas holding the world with one hand in gow 2 novel? Am i right?
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Correction: One Shoulder. Chapter 38.

"Atlas shook his head. The gigantic chains binding his four arms clanked with even this simple motion. Atlas was securely bound just as Kratos had left him, burdened with supporting the weight of the world on one shoulder and the Pillar of the World on the other. This had been a gigantic battle, between Atlas and Kratos, when he had served as Champion of Olympus."
 
KLOL506 said:
Exactly.

Not only that, there's also the full-powered, bloodlusted hammer blow to the face that Kratos got which he then just shrugged off like nothing ever happened in the rematch. Whereas this same hammer blow held back, "killed" his also-holding-back self because Kratos was too careless and made a mistake.


The new weapons are just icing on the cake, and the dagger thing is just pointless in all honesty. End result is that this left Thor struggling to catch his breath while Kratos just... gets up and gives Thor a pep talk as if he had just taken a morning jog.
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Tbf, in Thor's defence, he tanked a lot of hits from a Kratos who was serious (while not actively trying to kill Thor, he did acknowledge he would have to fight with enough effort he might to Thrud) that could kill other gods, and while he did end the fight winded, he caught his breath with a few moments of respite.
 
KLOL506 said:
Correction: One Shoulder. Chapter 38.

"Atlas shook his head. The gigantic chains binding his four arms clanked with even this simple motion. Atlas was securely bound just as Kratos had left him, burdened with supporting the weight of the world on one shoulder and the Pillar of the World on the other. This had been a gigantic battle, between Atlas and Kratos, when he had served as Champion of Olympus."
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Supported a weight of the world AND the world Pillar?! That's nuts.

Also is this 4×immeasurable strength feat for Atlas?
 
KLOL506 said:
The pillar alone wields Class 5 by eyeballing alone
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Oh yeah, that. That, and they should. be at that level by virtue of sheer size as well.
KLOL506 said:
He can incapacitate him and hold him still. Which counts as a wincon.
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Yeah, true. Actually could he find out what can break the spell with precog/cosmic awareness?
KLOL506 said:
Hmmmmmmm, might not actually be far-fetched.
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In fact I kinda predicted the hammer would be able to do the same, back when we were discussing immeasurable speed.

Could be a range feat as well.
 
Tyranno223 said:
Tbf, in Thor's defence, he tanked a lot of hits from a Kratos who was serious (while not actively trying to kill Thor, he did acknowledge he would have to fight with enough effort he might to Thrud) that could kill other gods, and while he did end the fight winded, he caught his breath with a few moments of respite.
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It still took him considerably longer to recover than Kratos (Who recovered his stamina almost immediately after the fight ends, proceeding to immediately go to war against Odin), and Kratos was still reeling in from the realization that he had broken a bit inside after killing Heimdall, despite not giving him anywhere near close to the amount of brutality that he had bestowed upon the Olympians. Basically, Kratos was still not back to the GOW3 Endgame Pre-Hope levels jut yet, but very close to it. And even when holding back on that front, he still won against Thor.
 
Gasper said:
Supported a weight of the world AND the world Pillar?! That's nuts.

Also is this 4×immeasurable strength feat for Atlas?
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The Pillar of the World itself doesn't have any quantifiable mass TBF. But Tartarus is also taking on that entire weight plus Atlas.

As for the second question, 5, plus the entire Greek Pantheon. Domain of Death, Mortal World, Alternate Mortal World where Ares kills Kratos, Nyx's Dimension and Morpheus's Realm of Dreams and Eternal Night.
 
BEASTHEART880 said:
In fact I kinda predicted the hammer would be able to do the same, back when we were discussing immeasurable speed.
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Not too sure, Immeasurable Speed requires you to be able to surpass the existential level of time itself like the R>F difference or be able to travel forward and back through time just by sheer movement alone. I could see it being "Infinite" given the size of the branches but then you'd have to explain how it enters the realms from the outside without Bifrost energy being involved.

BEASTHEART880 said:
Could be a range feat as well.
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Definitely a range feat just by virtue of the tree splintering.
 
KLOL506 said:
It still took him considerably longer to recover than Kratos (Who recovered his stamina almost immediately after the fight ends, proceeding to immediately go to war against Odin), and Kratos was still reeling in from the realization that he had broken a bit inside after killing Heimdall, despite not giving him anywhere near close to the amount of brutality that he had bestowed upon the Olympians. Basically, Kratos was still not back to the GOW3 Endgame Pre-Hope levels jut yet, but very close to it. And even when holding back on that front, he still won against Thor.
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Well yeah, Thor was beaten by Kratos, I'm not denying that, but I don't think he's that far off from him. It's not like Kratos was holding back to a ridiculous extent, he was still trying and putting in relatively considerable effort.
 
Tyranno223 said:
Well yeah, Thor was beaten by Kratos, I'm not denying that, but I don't think he's that far off from him. It's not like Kratos was holding back to a ridiculous extent, he was still trying and putting in relatively considerable effort.
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Yeah, I'm definitely not denying that. They shouldn't be too far off in terms of strength, but in terms of combat skill Kratos is just in another league.

If this was GOW3 Endgame Pre-Hope Kratos however, then it'd be a completely different story. GOW3 Kratos is, for lack of a better term, a monster.
 
KLOL506 said:
Yeah, I'm definitely not denying that. They shouldn't be too far off in terms of strength, but in terms of combat skill Kratos is just in another league.

If this was GOW3 Endgame Pre-Hope Kratos however, then it'd be a completely different story. GOW3 Kratos is, for lack of a better term, a monster.
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And Zeus? Well, Zeus is just built different.
 
KLOL506 said:
Not too sure, Immeasurable Speed requires you to be able to surpass the existential level of time itself like the R>F difference or be able to travel forward and back through time just by sheer movement alone. I could see it being "Infinite" given the size of the branches but then you'd have to explain how it enters the realms from the outside without Bifrost energy being involved.
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Yeah, I know all of this. But what about Heimdall's horn? Doesn't it do explicitly that? Does it use bifrost energy?
 
So what are all infinite/immeasurable strength feats in gow verse? Atlas holding gow cosmology on one of his shoulders, Hercules doing the same but probably with two arms and uranos having infinite universe in his body.
Is there anything more?
 
Dust_Collector said:
Yeah I think the final part in Asgard needed some more time, but overall the end of this game was great. Seeing Kratos choke up when he sees the mural depicting him being loved and worshipped was an amazing moment.
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I think that's tell something else like his sins can be redeemed and have his guilt be forgiven as theres golden swirling dust around the statue
 
Gasper said:
So what are all infinite/immeasurable strength feats in gow verse? Atlas holding gow cosmology on one of his shoulders, Hercules doing the same but probably with two arms and uranos having infinite universe in his body.
Is there anything more?
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I think thats about as far as feats go but Hyperion has a statement
 
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