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Okay and? Kratos still defeated him in the final rematch and he was still holding back to get Thor to listen.
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God of War: Ragnarok Discussion Thread
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It's good bro, he most likely is questioning his life choices at this point lmaoo
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THIS IS LITERALLY AN INTELLIGENCE FEAT BRUV. Unless you wanna give doctors with defibrilators Resurrection.
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so kratos use voids to upgrade his items
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Also, one more thing, Kratos wasn't staggering, he was literally matching Thor blow-for-blow even without the Leviathan Axe in the woodhouse scene and literally overpowered his Mjolnir with the Chains on his Blades of Chaos wrapped around the hammer in a tug-of-war, and we both know that the weapons scale to their wielders (As they can't be wielded by just about anyone unless they have the strength to do so, as Kratos mentions his wife Faye having the strength to wield it properly, and the wisdom to use it for good), especially considering that Thor literally got a hit in into Kratos right in the head while fully bloodlusted and this time Kratos wasn't any worse for the wear.
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He says they'd have it in a limited sense in some post above.
Also, no point in going on about this. Weekly is likely the only one on Earth who'd say that Thor and Kratos don't scale, regardless of who's stronger than who.
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Also when you activate the Rage of Sparta in the second fight Mimir tells Kratos to stay in control of it, meaning that if Kratos goes all rage mode like he did Heimdall then we'd more than likely be looking at a very dead Thor
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Basically what Planck said for this. Those verses are their own thing. If you want to make upgrades go for it. But don't lump in God of War with this kind of whataboutism, this is not how things work. Every verse is different.
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If Kratos wanted Thor dead, Thor would be dead. Period. Yes, I am talking about pure physical strength.
Weekly wanna see how a murderous Kratos looks?
Weekly wanna see how a murderous Kratos looks?
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BRUH. DIDN'T KNOW DEFIBRILATORS WERE MAGIC WEAPONS IRL.He says they'd have it in a limited sense in some post above.
Honestly just a Bloodlusted Thor smacking Kratos in the head directly and Kratos not even appearing to be moved by that should tell you where Kratos stands here.
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Ah, Hercules. This reminds of the Demi-God scaling. How come Hercules is on the level of the strongest Olympians? While Perseus and others are pretty much fodder.Lemme fix that for you.
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Deimos as well. Hercules and him are just built different.
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In greek mythology Hercules becames a god, so we can say he already became a god in gow verse.
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It is never mentioned in the games that he is a God. He also says that he will claim the throne of God of War after he kills Kratos.
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Hercules in mythology is literally the official Olympian God of Strength.
In GOW3, he finished all his previous 12 labors and called the act of killing Kratos his 13th and final labor in order to straight up become the next God of War. Unlucky dude at that, using 13th of all places, against a dude who actually called him brother, something he would not do for anyone else other than Mimir or Deimos.
In GOW3, he finished all his previous 12 labors and called the act of killing Kratos his 13th and final labor in order to straight up become the next God of War. Unlucky dude at that, using 13th of all places, against a dude who actually called him brother, something he would not do for anyone else other than Mimir or Deimos.
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Yeah but he still did the other 12 labors, like temporarily lifting up the Greek World for Atlas while he got the Apples, as well as the cleaning of the Augean Stables and killing of the Nemean Lion.
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Hercules wanting to become god of war dosen't debunk him being a god though
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Definition of FORMLESS
having no regular form or shape; lacking order or arrangement; having no physical existence… See the full definition
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That was after he died, right?
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This isn't that case. Plus second match automatically causes this entire thing to just get thrown out the window so yeah.
Posting it again for clarity's sake:
Thor here is enraged as **** and no longer holding back. Kratos is still holding back to keep Thor alive, but he is definitely exerting way more effort than any other time had in Norse. And he takes that full power hammer strike like a ******* champ.
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I think we can stop now. Or Weekly look at his notifications from this thread and probably log out.
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well i guess we have enough proof that ginnungagap having NEP1
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I am not disagreeing that Kratos doesn't hold back on his durability, this is indeed a wrong assumption to make by default. For any verse in general, unless there is an actual mechanism in the character's abilities that causes their strength to fluctuate depending on several conditions.
However, to say that you can't scale Kratos to Thor for his feat of knocking out Thor's teeth just because he died once, and then to completely ignore the final rematch where Kratos takes the full-powered blow to the head like a champ while still holding back to a certain extent to get Thor to listen to reason, and then claiming to know the full context of the fight by claiming to have watched it, honestly tells me a lot about where this argument is going.
If anything, Kratos dying the first time is because of his carelessness and him holding back in a fight he should've taken just as seriously as the moment he lost his shit when Thor mentioned Atreus's name and saying that Odin had plans for him.
However, to say that you can't scale Kratos to Thor for his feat of knocking out Thor's teeth just because he died once, and then to completely ignore the final rematch where Kratos takes the full-powered blow to the head like a champ while still holding back to a certain extent to get Thor to listen to reason, and then claiming to know the full context of the fight by claiming to have watched it, honestly tells me a lot about where this argument is going.
If anything, Kratos dying the first time is because of his carelessness and him holding back in a fight he should've taken just as seriously as the moment he lost his shit when Thor mentioned Atreus's name and saying that Odin had plans for him.
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Lol. Dude really dropped in with "Thor stomps Kratos" and expected his alerts to not boil over.
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Lol yea
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No it's not, if anything it's proof that Kratos was careless. And immediately after Kratos literally knocks out Thor's teeth after being royally pissed off by hearing Odin having plans for Atreus.
In the second fight Thor is going all out and Kratos is far more serious than he has ever been in the time he's been in the Norse Pantheon, but he still held back to reason with Thor, and right at the final leg, he literally took a bloodlusted, full-power blow from Thor's Mjolnir to the face and was not in the least bit affected by it, he literally shrugged it the **** off.
You're posting the first fight where both were holding back which utterly destroys your proposition. Especially considering there's the final rematch and the straight blow to the head from a full-power bloodlusted Thor, and the fact that Kratos is still holding back to a certain extent after that mess with Heimdall and to get Thor to listen to proper reason.
Cool, Kratos literally takes a full-powered blow to the head in their final rematch and he just shrugs it off. You gonna ignore that? I thought you said you watched both fights.
BECAUSE HE WAS HOLDING BACK. In case you didn't know, while Kratos doesn't hold back on his durability, he absolutely does on his strength. Why are you ignoring the part where Thor is berating Kratos for not using his true power and even telling him how boring it is without his signature blades? Also killing Heimdall gave him even more of an incentive to further bring himself under control, trying to save Thor for the sake of their own children is just icing on the cake and an even better motivator for this (Granted he was way, way more serious than ever before like I've already repeated multiple times now, but even so he was still holding back to make Thor see reason).
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Buddy. Log out. Read a biology book. Touch grass. Go out with friends. Visit museum. Touch Grass again. Reconsider your above comments for once. And I promise you. You will become a better person. BUT THIS. THIS IS NOT IT.
My brother from another mother in Christ, Kratos's head wasn't split in half, otherwise we'd see brain halves on this. Also, Kratos isn't that weak, he literally survived a sneak full-power blast from Fear Zeus who is literally stronger than everyone else in the entire franchise and that didn't split his body into parts, and you seriously expect me to believe that a Thor who was fighting half-heartedly against a decently-holding-back Kratos without his Blades of Chaos would be able to split his head in two, especially when not even the visuals show this? Thor was lucky he even managed to exploit Kratos's carelessness and obtain a kill, even if temporarily.
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Damn. Chill. You got your point across.
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at this point he has to be trolling, he just sounds like it at this point.
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Sorry about that, but the resurrection part got me laughing all over the place. Anyways, that's the last of the points.
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I wonder what Atreus' LS is? He obviously doesn't scale to Kratos in the slightest, but one feat for him is that pillar in the Garm fight.
He probably should have Immeasurable LS in Bear form, for, you know, ripping a Valkyrie in half
He probably should have Immeasurable LS in Bear form, for, you know, ripping a Valkyrie in half
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storm of bifrost, passive ability.
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Nope. In the second fight, Kratos was definitely holding back. Maybe not as much as the first fight, but both him and Mimir were trying to convince Thor to stop throughout the battle. Kratos won because he had 3 weapons this time around+he was mildly serious+he was continually exploiting Thor's wound+his gear was much more upgraded compared to the game's starting+he managed to restrain Thor with that dagger.
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Not sure, but prolly at least comparable to Trolls at the very least. Aside from the pillar feat.
He should. He could even hold his own against Kratos in this form and would have died as a result of getting beat down if he didn't stop resisting.
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