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dang i thought it release on june 2024 instead june 2025Board game is still a year away so no point dwelling on that ATM.
Late pledges will be made available later so if you wanna buy the good stuff best to wait for that for now.
LMAOdang i thought it release on june 2024 instead june 2025
very good CRT, i am curious about someone that will downgrade Low 1-C stuffGod of war | Kratos's immortality Negation section.
Legionnaires & Their Counterparts Now, before we start, I know that Fuji wanted to handle this in one of her future threads, but this is mostly a re-justification of the ability that deals with its current problems instead of entirely removing it. To start off, we need to talk about the...vsbattles.com
HmmThanks! It's my first so I was a bit worried about quality. And yeah, Fuji plans to downgrade it at one point.
To be completely honest, the cosmology is one of the things I've looked at the least. While I do have a couple issues with that at the moment, most of my focus has been on the verse's hax.Thanks! It's my first so I was a bit worried about quality. And yeah, Fuji plans to downgrade it at one point.
I believe this is a matter of site policy as opposed to any issues with the canonicity itself. JTTW is far more reliant on religious context than GoW, but that still had to be removed before Sun Wukong was allowed on the wiki.I'm talking these two scans specifically, and every description because of the bs titles.
Not quite what I meant. We have rules against using real life religion on the wiki, which seems to extend to using it to provide context for verses (based on what I've seen with JTTW):I can see why staff would push back against it, I mean, i would too if there isn't some direct statement about it.
But it would be odd to ignore it, after all the media itself considers it as something needed to understand the lore of the games, ignoring it would sacrifice the accuracy of our indexing just to satisfy site rules.
I might make a thread about it, but I would like the GOW supporters input so it can be something discussed before any actual attempt to get it passed.
I've run into problems with this regarding Touhou, where the verse also heavily relies on religious context while encouraging readers to use it as a basis for canon info (while treating some aspects of religion/mythology as outright canon), and I'm not quite sure what to do there either. As I said before, I'd definitely take part in a thread discussing the topic further (and not just for my own benefit to be clear).
- Do not create profiles for deities and other figures from religions with a significant quantity of modern day followers. This includes those described in Christianity, Hinduism, Buddhism, and Islam. Featuring these types of profiles is certain to upset large groups of people.
- In addition, even dead religions, ones with an incredibly small amount of current followers, such as the Aesir faith, and ones for which the followers are agnostic, such as Shintoism, frequently contain myths and interpretations that are radically different and contradictory to each other, which makes it near impossible to pattern coherent information into statistical profile pages. As such, we only make exceptions for mythologies that are based on specific fictional works separate from any mainstream religion, such as Journey to the West and the Shanmeh, that can provide reasonably high coherence and accuracy for our purposes, and lessen the offence to religious believers.
This is more or less my take on the matter, though I guess it'd vary somewhat based on the verse and the religion and mythology it draws from.I can see how this can problematic when making profiles for those religions, but not when it comes to verses where they are secondary canon or tertiary canon too.
After all, God of War, Touhou(I'm assuming when it comes to Touhou) and likely a lot of other verses have a primary canon, with an established and coherent story line, events and Lore.
So when it comes to taking context, Lore or events from these mythos, only interpretations that would be consistent and uncontradictory would be actually taken, so the problem of contradictory interpretations gets erased.
And if there are two or more interpretations that are consistent and provide different outcomes (such as hax) the events would simply be taken as a possibly.
I can see your point Deagnox when these verses are simply inspired by said Mythos. But I fail to see how that applies to verses where said Mythos are treated as canon, or something akin to it.Generally, we don't allow verses to extrapolate information from religious inspirations unless that information was stipulated within the lore itself. It may be fine to use it for understanding something, but it wouldn't generate new tiers or abilities. This is especially true with something like Greek Mythology which isn't a uniform corpus of clearly defined works.
Part of that is because fiction pretty much always deviates from the inspiration, so using it is often pretty specious. For instance, someone noted that "Sisyphus" was mentioned in GoW at some point, and in one version of the Sisyphus myth (there are several) he chained Hades and as a result no one could die, and this was being used as a justification for concept manip in GoW just due to the bare fact that Sisyphus got mentioned at some point. The problem there is obvious.
It can't be used as a possibly because it isn't in the verse. Our standard of evidence for a "possibly" is considerably higher than what would be met by just mentioning a figure who -- in some version of his real life myth -- did something that might be considered Concept Manip. Also, there are many versions of most Greek myths. There isn't a "canon" version of Greek mythology.but here's the thing, there's nothing contradictory to said myth or the others, so I see no reason why it can't be used as a possibly.
That's not what I'm saying. The Greek mythos are said to be canon according to the Guidebooks.It can't be used as a possibly because it isn't in the verse. Our standard of evidence for a "possibly" is considerably higher than what would be met by just mentioning a figure who -- in some version of his real life myth -- did something that might be considered Concept Manip. Also, there are many versions of most Greek myths. There isn't a "canon" version of Greek mythology.
There is no consistent "Greek mythos." Again, every story in Greek mythology has several versions. Also, what line in which guidebook used the word "canon" to describe non-GoW greek mythology?That's not what I'm saying. The Greek mythos are said to be canon according to the Guidebooks.
No, that's far far below our evidence threshold for "possibly."And if there's two or more interpretations that fit this category, we index them both as possibly.
Yeah I don't mind it informing minor things, like for instance the meaning of the story about Ixion and Nephele, but this should be very limited.Personally speaking, I believe the mythos should only be used to contextualize what is already present in the series. If something is left vague and up to interpretation, then I think it's fine to fall back on the original myth to try and discern what happened in the series itself (assuming no contradictions would arise as a consequence of doing so, of course). I think the Sisyphus thing is a good example of where this approach shouldn't be used, given the amount of extrapolation and varying interpretations involved.
Deagnox, I'm not saying that Greek myths are consistent with themselves, I'm saying we should use the ones consistent with God of war to index the series proper, and here's the main statements I'm talking about. There are others, such as every character description having "classical Mythology" on top.There is no consistent "Greek mythos." Again, every story in Greek mythology has several versions. Also, what line in which guidebook used the word "canon" to describe non-GoW greek mythology?
There are two interpretations, both are equally possibly, how do you index them?No, that's far far below our evidence threshold for "possibly."
That doesn't really make sense, because if you're using Greek myths to fill in the blanks, then none of them are going to be "inconsistent" and we'll still be left with several possible versions of the same story.Deagnox, I'm not saying that Greek myths are consistent with themselves, I'm saying we should use the ones consistent with God of war to index the series proper
"Stories of Ancient Greek History and Mythical Lore give you insight behind the world and game!" just tells us its Greek mythology inspired, which we already knew.here's the main statements I'm talking about.
Depends on context, there's no way to answer that universally. If it's nothing more than the bare possibility then neither would get indexed.There are two interpretations, both are equally possibly, how do you index them?
The possibility of those stories having any major difference is negligible at best, and probably no major difference between the indexing.That doesn't really make sense, because if you're using Greek myths to fill in the blanks, then none of them are going to be "inconsistent" and we'll still be left with several possible versions of the same story.
Yeah, that's if the statement was taken in a vacuum. The Guidebooks constantly label character descriptions with "classical Mythology" and utilizes things such as the giant war with the gods to mention events in the series as if they happened.Stories of Ancient Greek History and Mythical Lore give you insight behind the world and game!" just tells us its Greek mythology inspired, which we already knew.
You can just index them as "possibly X(Used X in this interpretation, while didn't use it in X interpretation, it's unknown which canonical happened I'm the series)"Depends on context, there's no way to answer that universally. If it's nothing more than the bare possibility then neither would get indexed.
These seems to be an entirely ad-hoc assertion. Versions of Greek myths vary considerably, and again: We will never index based on information that is completely absent in the verse.The possibility of those stories having any major difference is negligible at best, and probably no major difference between the indexing.
Without the scans I'm not in a position to evaluate these claims. All I can say for sure is that the cover you linked isn't very compelling evidence.The Guidebooks constantly label character descriptions with "classical Mythology" and utilizes things such as the giant war with the gods to mention events in the series as if they happened.
We could, but we wouldn't. Our standards for "possibly" are much higher than that.You can just index them as "possibly X(Used X in this interpretation, while didn't use it in X interpretation, it's unknown which canonical happened I'm the series)"
I disagree, if we do not have conclusive evidence we shouldn't be indexing based on theories. "Possibly" is for when there is strong, but not conclusive evidence for an ability. If it were used for bare possibility our profiles would be littered with endless "possibly" abilities and ratings.And ignoring just seems like improper indexing.
Sure, but how much would Greek myths that are consistent with Gow vary? Not much.These seems to be an entirely ad-hoc assertion. Versions of Greek myths vary considerably, and again: We will never index based on information that is completely absent in the verse.
Okay, here's two. There are a lot more where they are more explicit that information and description came entirely from the mythos.Without the scans I'm not in a position to evaluate these claims. All I can say for sure is that the cover you linked isn't very compelling evidence.
Don't see why, both are possible.We could, but we wouldn't. Our standards for "possibly" are much higher than that.
These are not theories, they are two interpretations of Greek myth that are consistent with Gow, which we don't have any way to be discerning which canonically happened.I disagree, if we do not have conclusive evidence we shouldn't be indexing based on theories. "Possibly" is for when there is strong, but not conclusive evidence for an ability. If it were used for bare possibility our profiles would be littered with endless "possibly" abilities and ratings.
Again, this appears to be an entirely ad-hoc assertion.Sure, but how much would Greek myths that are consistent with Gow vary? Not much.
I don't have any issue with using those quotes where they do not conflict with the game, but that does not provide a sufficient basis for saying we can just grab the Iliad and just grab what we want and assume it's canon to GoW so long as there's not some direct contradiction.Okay, here's two. There are a lot more where they are more explicit that information and description came entirely from the mythos.
Our "Possibly" ratings do not literally mean "possible."Don't see why, both are possible.
This is addressed by what I said earlier in this comment.These are not theories, they are two interpretations of Greek myth that are consistent with Gow, which we don't have any way to be discerning which canonically happened.
I'm sorry that what I'm asking isn't related to what you were just talking about, but do you have any information on Thanatos apparently fighting Chaos at some point and have a scan for it? Also, do you know if there is a scan for the length of the GoW 3 game in-universe, I heard it was a little over a day.Again, this appears to be an entirely ad-hoc assertion.
I don't have any issue with using those quotes where they do not conflict with the game, but that does not provide a sufficient basis for saying we can just grab the Iliad and just grab what we want and assume it's canon to GoW so long as there's not some direct contradiction.
Our "Possibly" ratings do not literally mean "possible."
This is addressed by what I said earlier in this comment.
Weird how lahkesis doesn't have resistance to time manip for this
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