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Fist of God vs He Who Would Swallow God (Garou vs Father)
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Low 2-C is in my opinion wrong. However Father's true self is a Philosopher's Stone, an inorganic material that would not be subject to radiation. The body is just an exterior.
Also a Low-High character wouldn't really be affected by radiations to begin with.
Also a Low-High character wouldn't really be affected by radiations to begin with.
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Garou’s radiation already negged someone with mid-High radiation passively.
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Low-High is a whole magnitude above mid-high.
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…are you talking about low-Godly lol?
Because the scaling chain goes
Low-High
Mid-High
High
azontr
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Who exactly?
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Zombieman
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Zombieman has High-Mid regen, not Mid-High regen
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Zombieman has high-mid not mid-high
azontr
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Uh, read above.
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Wtf. I coulda sworn I saw Zombieman was listed as having Mid-High regen since the justification was him being reduced to ash by Homeless Emperor. Which was mid-High regen
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Regeneration doesn't neg radiation anyway. Only resistance or inorganic physiology could.
Note: I'm not counting specific obscure hax or crazy reality warping and high-tier hax when I made this statement.
Note: I'm not counting specific obscure hax or crazy reality warping and high-tier hax when I made this statement.
azontr
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His entire body wasn't destroyed based on the justification, which is what you'd need for Mid-High.
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Was talking about High-Mid actually. Typo'd my bad, but I'm assuming you were talking about Zombieman, that's why.
Father's regen is low-high, a whole magnitude above zombieman's.
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Plus like, even if it could affect Low-High people Father is still a special case
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It ain't getting concluded anytime soon since nothing has changed. Personally, I would close this thread as it is pretty much a stomp for Garou as of right now and make a new one later.
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No it's not lol
Father can just suck out his soul, and probably does in fact just do that very quickly
Father can just suck out his soul, and probably does in fact just do that very quickly
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And... Father regens? And haxes him?
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Peeps out here really ignoring Father's hax.
Father rips out his soul or turns him into a bomb, deconstructs him, so on and so forth.
Father rips out his soul or turns him into a bomb, deconstructs him, so on and so forth.
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Hard to regen when he's destroyed beyond even a puddle by absolutely anything Garou does even disregarding Garou's radiation aura incapacitating and/or killing. Garou has the senses, reactions, cosmic awareness, and what not to detect that Father is up to something with Alchemy even if he can't copy what Alchemy.
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Just because he can detect something doesn't mean he can stop it from happening. Nothing Garou can do can stop Father from taking his soul.
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Garou's Radiation is not killing Father, it wouldn't even effect him due to being a walking Stone, and it wouldn't stop Low-high regeneration either.
Arcker123
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Can’t Father just Decon through Alchemy immediately? Fathers soul suck also just kinda negs and he only really needs to raise his hand. I don’t see a real reason to believe Garou can Radiation a Low High before he simply thinks to Decon or raises his hand to soul suck.
Voting Father rn.
Voting Father rn.
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Okay, so for definite;
Father: 2 (Arcker123, LordGinSama)
Garou: 1 (Dienomite22)
Could everyone else on this thread who contributed to the debate cast your votes?
Father: 2 (Arcker123, LordGinSama)
Garou: 1 (Dienomite22)
Could everyone else on this thread who contributed to the debate cast your votes?
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did u just ask someone to prove a negative?
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Is it instant? Every scan I've seen shows it's not instant even on regular humans.
Being a Philosopher's stone is a good counter to radiation. Regeneration isn't a counter to radiation unless the character has feats of regenerating from radiation, only resistance or being inorganic biology (depending on the method).
How does the deconstruction work?
Arcker123
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It’s the opposite. You have to prove the radiation can vape or otherwise Neg regen or else Father is regenerating from the physical damage. That’s how regen works lmao. I don’t have to prove Father can regen radiation in specific when it’s your burden to show how Radiation gets past it. This is just burden shifting and asking us to prove negatives.
On the page. It’s basically one of the basic principles of Alchemy (Which Father has mastered completely due to his fusion with God, the founder of Alchemy)
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It's instant, as I said Father was interrupted by Van Hohenheim before he could rip the souls out.
Radiation doesn't affect regeneration that is spiritual, he isn't recovering from atoms or matter, his regeneration is based on the amount of souls he has. He dies once and he revives with his soul stock, which is 50 million souls.
Also Radiation doesn't destroy matter such as atoms, Radiation effects cells which causes them to stop and die.
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In relation to LordGinSama saying Garou has nothing that Father can't counter.
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You seem to misunderstanding. Being a philospher stone renders radiation null as I've said. Regeneration by itself doesn't nullify radiation unless the character has feats of such.
So how does it work? From everything I've seen it's touch based.
