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One-Punch Man: Revision of the Gods
- Thread starter Phoenks
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I think we just scrap the 4-A part altogether and just put it on future garou's key
4-A just happens to be one of the many tiers he can be, but in no way is it his limit nor is it his starting point
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‘up to 4-A’ would be better, yeah.
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I'd say he can copy high 3-A, since no limiter means theoretically undefined potential
but for vs wiki purposes you could just say that it's an infinitely high limiter, as supported by the exponential graph. But then again not all infinities are made equal, and for that reason we don't actually have a baselines high 3-A
but there's the alternative of garou copying outerversal and boundless.....
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That would warrant more explanation about limiters and I doubt that OPM will reach that level (I hope though). Currently anything above High 3-A would be considered wank. Actually, I don't doubt that High 3-A itself would be considered very iffy by many.
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I am aware
I think the best thing to do is to completely avoiding dealing with the issue entirely and just not make high3-A or higher matches vs garou
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Bringing up something that I've just witnessed in a match. Garou's power mimicry being believed to cap at 4-A.
The way the profile is currently, makes it seem like Garou can't copy power beyond 4-A when that is not implied to be the case. He easily copied 4-A power in his first clash against Saitama and the only issue he had against Saitama is that Saitama's power grew exponentially faster than he was able to copy. And just to clarify, I'm not saying Garou can copy High 3-A and up but 3-C, 3-B and 3-A should be possible given that we have nothing that contradicts Garou being able to copy that amount of power.
I believe Garou's profile should be worded something like this:
Large Planet level possibly Large Star level (insert reason), Multi-solar system level (copied Serious Saitama multiple times) Varies with Power Mimicry.
The way the profile is currently, makes it seem like Garou can't copy power beyond 4-A when that is not implied to be the case. He easily copied 4-A power in his first clash against Saitama and the only issue he had against Saitama is that Saitama's power grew exponentially faster than he was able to copy. And just to clarify, I'm not saying Garou can copy High 3-A and up but 3-C, 3-B and 3-A should be possible given that we have nothing that contradicts Garou being able to copy that amount of power.
I believe Garou's profile should be worded something like this:
Large Planet level possibly Large Star level (insert reason), Multi-solar system level (copied Serious Saitama multiple times) Varies with Power Mimicry.
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I assume there’s supposed to be an “up to” in between Large Star level and Multi-Solar System level.
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Couple of things I noticed when looking over this calc.
- When finding the true diameter of a spherical celestial body, you would have to use the new Planet Curvature Formula.
- When finding the diameter of a planet, instead of using a horizontal line like you did, you would need to do make a vertical line, similar to this.
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Up to would be fine if Garou was shown to not be able to go over 4-A power or be able to copy higher power than the 4-A SPS feat but he was still indeed copying Saitama and stated he was gonna copy him endlessly until he wins. Garou's only true weakness was his copying speed being outdone by Saitama's accelerated development speed.
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You can’t just put MSS in the middle of the tiers without explaining why it’s there, there has to be an ‘up to’ or something there, and since 4-A was the maximum that Garou actually showed, the ‘up to’ rating makes sense.
Y’all can put ‘potentially higher’ after that or something if it really bothers you that much.
Apeironaxim
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if anything you could argue for 4-A to be Garou's base rating, as it's being insisted that Garou keeps the physical stats he copies into his base, and thus he ended the arc as a 4-A in base. You'd just need to find the relevant scans to put in the profile to say he keeps the stats in base once copied
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this can be avoided easier if we just make 4-A (or 3-C depening on graph stuff being accepted) as the starting point for the future key of garou, and keep base cosmic garou at high 4-C
Present key: 5-A, likely high 4-C. Varies with power mimicry
Future Key: 4-A (possibly) possibly 3-C. Varies with power mimicry
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MSS is not there without explanation: 4-A (Copied serious Saitama's power and much more detail)
MSS became Garou's base after he copied the power, and Saitama continued to grow to an unknown degree. Garou was merely copying Saitama's power and was beaten by Saitama's crazy AD. Garou was never implied to have 4-A as a cap.
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I mean you can’t just go “Large Planet level, possibly Large Star level. Multi-Solar System level” without something in between Large Star and MSS.
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Just do what his profile already does.
At least Large Planet level, possibly Large Star level (His attack was compared to a real Gamma Ray Burst[1] which produces at least 1 foe or 10^44 joules of energy. Stated that Blast wasn't worth his time.[4] Copied Saitama's Consecutive Normal Punches and matched it blow for blow,[1] which had previously obliterated Meteoric Burst Boros), Multi-Solar System level with Power Mimicry (Copied and evenly matched Saitama's Serious Punch, generating an explosion that annihilated millions of stars[3]), higher with Reactive Evolution (Grew exponentially in power while mimicking Saitama[2])
Except with something like this:
At least Large Planet level, possibly Large Star level (His attack was compared to a real Gamma Ray Burst[1] which produces at least 1 foe or 10^44 joules of energy. Stated that Blast wasn't worth his time.[4] Copied Saitama's Consecutive Normal Punches and matched it blow for blow,[1] which had previously obliterated Meteoric Burst Boros), Multi-Solar System level (Copied and evenly matched Saitama's Serious Punch, generating an explosion that annihilated millions of stars[3]), Varies with Power Mimicry
or better yet, do what Ziller said since that's technically more accurate because of time travel shenanigans
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I reiterate: you can’t just have the Multi-Solar System level there without an ‘up to’, ‘likely/possibly’ or something like that.
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But Warhammer Fantasy does it
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Why not just have it be another key titled "After copying Saitama"?
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That's literally his profile right now but yea, just do what Ziller said.
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Sure, that’s fine. It just can’t randomly be in the middle of his tiers.
No, it’s not, because his profile lists it as “Multi-Solar System level via Power Mimicry” that’s different than you just randomly having it in the middle of his tiers without listing what makes it different from his Large Planet level/Large Star level tiers.
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At least Large Planet level, possibly Large Star level (His attack was compared to a real Gamma Ray Burst[1] which produces at least 1 foe or 10^44 joules of energy. Stated that Blast wasn't worth his time.[4] Copied Saitama's Consecutive Normal Punches and matched it blow for blow,[1] which had previously obliterated Meteoric Burst Boros), Multi-Solar System level (Copied and evenly matched Saitama's Serious Punch, generating an explosion that annihilated millions of stars[3]), Varies with Power Mimicry
This quotations tell you what makes it different from his large planet leve/large star level tier what are you talking about lmao?
5-A possibly High 4-C (Performed an attack on those levels among other reasons), 4-A (Copied and evenly matched a serious Saitama's Serious Punch blah blah blah)
That is not confusing.
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So just doing what Ziller said:
Current Timeline Cosmic Fear Garou key:
At least Large Planet level, possibly Large Star level (His attack was compared to a real Gamma Ray Burst[1] which produces at least 1 foe or 10^44 joules of energy. Stated that Blast wasn't worth his time.[4] Copied Saitama's Consecutive Normal Punches and matched it blow for blow,[1] which had previously obliterated Meteoric Burst Boros), Varies with Power Mimicry
Parallel Timeline key:
Multi-Solar System level (Copied and evenly matched Saitama's Serious Punch, generating an explosion that annihilated millions of stars[3]), Varies with Power Mimicry
Something like that
Current Timeline Cosmic Fear Garou key:
At least Large Planet level, possibly Large Star level (His attack was compared to a real Gamma Ray Burst[1] which produces at least 1 foe or 10^44 joules of energy. Stated that Blast wasn't worth his time.[4] Copied Saitama's Consecutive Normal Punches and matched it blow for blow,[1] which had previously obliterated Meteoric Burst Boros), Varies with Power Mimicry
Parallel Timeline key:
Multi-Solar System level (Copied and evenly matched Saitama's Serious Punch, generating an explosion that annihilated millions of stars[3]), Varies with Power Mimicry
Something like that
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Clearly you aren’t understanding what I’m saying.
When I say there’s no explanation, I am not talking about the attack potency justification. The current page specifies that Garou is MSS with his Power Mimicry. If you want to change that, you need to replace that specification with something.
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That's wank, I think Murata was high.
If Garou even thought of copying someone one undecillionth percentile above Saitama's power, he would literally be wiped from existence across all timelines in the whole multiverse. Not even his memory would have been spared.
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Oh then just say MSS via Power Mimicry and have Varies with Power Mimicry at the end of his ap/durability/speed section
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That- that’d be the same thing though…
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Bro why don’t we just make new keys
like we nearly unanimously agreed upon before the thread was made?
like we nearly unanimously agreed upon before the thread was made?
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Kinda/kinda not. MSS via Power Mimicry means he got to MSS by using Power Mimicry but if we say MSS with Power Mimicry it sounds like he's only 4-A while using Power Mimicry. Via sounds less Static and definite than with.
Apeironaxim
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tbh the fact Saitama will have an Alt timeline key at some point means Garou having one does make sense. After all he's only 4-A from the point after Saitama travelled back to
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Yeah, that’s definitely going to confuse people. Maybe something like “Multi-Solar System level after copying Saitama”.
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If someone is 0.001 times stronger than you, the person is actually more than hundreds of times weaker than you
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That works but a different key seems to be what most think is the better idea so our convo is pretty much meaningless, to be honest.
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lol I agree.
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