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I don't think KLOL is still debating against it.

Hopefully more calc members come here. Actually, I'll try @ing a few.

@Therefir @Armorchompy
The low end of Io's feat should be fine.

I don't trust the mid-end formula, it inflates the results and we have no way of knowing what the speed of those shock waves was or if they were truly "frozen" in their perspective.

And that high-end shouldn't even be there.
 
The low end of Io's feat should be fine.

I don't trust the mid-end formula, it inflates the results and we have no way of knowing what the speed of those shock waves was or if they were truly "frozen" in their perspective.

And that high-end shouldn't even be there.
Thank you. Could you post your evaluation on the blog? Would appreciate it.
 
The low end of Io's feat should be fine.

I don't trust the mid-end formula, it inflates the results and we have no way of knowing what the speed of those shock waves was or if they were truly "frozen" in their perspective.

And that high-end shouldn't even be there.
Alright. This means that the 0.0001 second end works.
 
Btw I disagree with the shockwaves thing immensely. They must have expanded to that level in the first place during the ping pong, no? Might have missed if they’re supposed to have appeared in previous scenes ig.

I’m fine with using the apparent speed shit for the Io feat in relation to the chunks, but I disagree immensely with the calculation used by Nik Helton for the speed of the chunks. I think people will know what I mean when they look at the calc, I brought it up in DMs anyway.

Really you can just use v=s/t, the escape velocity of Io is negligible.
 
Btw @KLOL506 you should probably re-evaluate the blog since the low-end your comment refers to was changed to the 0.0001 end.
 
Btw I disagree with the shockwaves thing immensely. They must have expanded to that level in the first place during the ping pong, no? Might have missed if they’re supposed to have appeared in previous scenes ig..
The idea with the shockwaves is that the image takes place AFTER the serious ping pong, and then they all appeared instantaneously due to how small the gap between them was. So no, they wouldn’t have expanded during the attack, they only could have appeared afterward since that’s the aftermath

In fact the entire fact that there’s so many shockwaves at once does prove that they must have been created at almost the same time, otherwise it wouldn’t make sense for Saitama to make them in multiple places at once
 
TL;DR
Picture shows aftermath, which is why multiple shockwaves
Saitama can’t be in 2 places at once so they must have been made at the same time for them to all exist at the same time and be the same size
 
They could have just expanded at different speeds tbh.
That would mean that he still blitzed the faster shockwaves, unless you’re saying the shockwaves appeared from smallest to largest in perfect order
but Yknow what none of it matters, point is that he still blitzed all the shockwaves hard enough to where there didn’t seem to be any significant difference between them
 
That would mean that he still blitzed the faster shockwaves, unless you’re saying the shockwaves appeared from smallest to largest in perfect order
but Yknow what none of it matters, point is that he still blitzed all the shockwaves hard enough to where there didn’t seem to be any significant difference between them
My dude it’s not perfect anyway, the shockwaves aren’t the exact same size. Fair enough that it all took place afterwards cause they were afterimages after all, but I think “the shockwaves are the same size and Saitama can’t be in two places at once so there must have been a marginal difference in their growth” is sort of silly but, then again, the calc does just assume that they’re all light apparently so???
 
My dude it’s not perfect anyway, the shockwaves aren’t the exact same size. Fair enough that it all took place afterwards cause they were afterimages after all, but I think “the shockwaves are the same size and Saitama can’t be in two places at once so there must have been a marginal difference in their growth” is sort of silly but, then again, the calc does just assume that they’re all light apparently so???
Ok the light thing is a pretty impossible high end I’ll give you that
anyways the point is that at the very least, no shockwave was able to go a significant distance before another shockwave was spawned regardless, and the amount that a difference in the speeds would lower it is unquantifiable and likely quite negligible in the grand scheme of things especially since that requires a layer of deeper thought, while the author just intended to show a moment where the shockwaves appear way slower than the two were moving
 
maybe we could get more creative
Since sneezing is an internal bodily function, perhaps we could give Saitama’s organs 5-A durability for surviving it and tanking the extreme fa jin
 
maybe we could get more creative
Since sneezing is an internal bodily function, perhaps we could give Saitama’s organs 5-A durability for surviving it and tanking the extreme fa jin
Are you joking? Your organs are just as durable as your skin.
 
anyways, considering everything we know about the graph
we're gonna have to debate on it being viable for getting future saitama to 3-C since it implies over 60 times stronger when he's only 1/9th of baseline 3-C
obviously I'm strongly in favor of it but something tells me that it won't go on the profiles without a fight, so it's better now than when the time comes for the crt so maybe we'll reach a favorable conclusion ahead of time
It seems very reasonable it should go through especially with what we know about the speed and rate of which characters like Garou can go from getting stronger which he was being eclipsed by Saitama’s own growth. (Plus literally the graph). So yeah Saitama and Garou should more than likely be 3C
 
bruh its 2k22

Dragonball characters can control their destructive capacity through KI control

why so much cope 😘😘😘
Ki control is fanfiction. The only mentions of ki control are in minimizing the destruction caused by powerful transformations, and mainaining those transformations, not their actual attacks.
 
A little smaller, since the organs do not have muscles like in the arm and leg to "reinforce the defense"
Muscle is a tissue that's under the skin. Skin doesn't contain muscle in it, it's just connected to it.

If Saitama's skin isn't even phased by 4-A attacks, then his entire body is 4-A. Organs, tissues, and all.

Unless you're going to tell me organ tissue is less durable than skin tissue.
 
Muscle is a tissue that's under the skin. Skin doesn't contain muscle in it, it's just connected to it.

If Saitama's skin isn't even phased by 4-A attacks, then his entire body is 4-A. Organs, tissues, and all.

Unless you're going to tell me organ tissue is less durable than skin tissue.
Ok so do dura negating attacks just not matter now
 
If Saitama's skin isn't even phased by 4-A attacks, then his entire body is 4-A. Organs, tissues, and all.
I didn't say that organs are below 4-A, what I said was that it is much easier to destroy something like a lung with a punch than a skin that is protected by stronger muscles
 
Ki control is fanfiction. The only mentions of ki control are in minimizing the destruction caused by powerful transformations, and mainaining those transformations, not their actual attacks.
Damn Cryo, this is a big L.

Literally every teacher Goku had starting from the lookout taught him a form of controlling his Ki. Vegeta even said in the manga (Android Saga I think?) that if he wasn't constantly restraining his blasts, the Earth would have been destroyed a while ago.

Do you really think that a Kamehameha from Namek Saga Goku and beyond isn't stronger than Saiyan Saga Vegeta's Galick Gun?
 
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