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My Hero Academia General Discussion Thread #18

Well I suppose this officially puts Bakugo in the “Mirko” club where even getting tapped by AM tier characters too hard = death but they can hurt them. Speaking of, Mirko has a gun arm attachment which is cool.
 
At the start of the new war it looked positive for the heroes with all their strategies and stuff but now it ain't looking too good. Hopefully those foreign reinforcements arrive.

Like with Prime AFO basically back, we all know how that battlefield is gonna go. Endeavor was already on his last legs. They're gonna get washed. Toga with Twice's blood + Shigaraki.

Also while the battles at Kirishima & Shoji's areas are to prevent Machia and Kurogiri from escaping, it's kinda obvious that Machia will escape for at least a rematch.

Though I think with Kurogiri/Shirakumo regaining some memories, he might be on the heroes side in the end.
 
+ Machia who is going to get out + Spinner and Kurogiri

Those reinforcements from the other countries need to come in ASAP and these other 1-A kids need to come online, cause Deku can’t do it all. Just leave him AFO and Shigaraki, some other peeps gotta step up for the rest
Deku would be hardpressed to fight one on his own. The other heroes need to do something especially since Endeavor is clapped
 
Bakugou’s Howitzer Cluster was so massive it went outside of the barrier, meaning it was likely larger than his explosion against the Serpenters. Someone needs to calc
 
Shiggy also needs Possibly Telekinesis (Launched all of the heroes away by moving his hand; it was confirmed he wasn’t using Air Cannon)
 
Bakugou’s Howitzer Cluster was so massive it went outside of the barrier, meaning it was likely larger than his explosion against the Serpenters. Someone needs to calc
Might as well just scale Bakugo to Shiggy (no way that explosion reach 7-A let alone High 6-C).

Also I'm back.
 
Probably the battle I look to forward the most.

The translation says "Let us fight, hang on world".

So is Deku really going to fight AFO? I'm hopeful but wary, because as much as I want Deku to fight AFO, it would feel weird for Deku to face both Shiggy and AFO, it would make everyone else feel useless.
 
it would make everyone else feel useless.
They are. Deku is stated time and time again to be the heroes greatest asset. For the record, Endeavor nearly died trying to beat AFO at his weakest state, just for him to reincarnate into his prime. Shiggy considers the top heroes absolute jokes, and launched them flying with a flick of his hand. He easily tanked Bakugou’s most powerful move and was smiling.

Unless Deku is fighting in both battles, it’s impossible for the heroes to win
 
Shiggy also needs Possibly Telekinesis (Launched all of the heroes away by moving his hand; it was confirmed he wasn’t using Air Cannon)
His quirks are erased, he’s just using brute force. Like how All Might punches forward and destroys city blocks. This is just further confirmation that he’s truly reached All Might’s level that he can replicate flicking people away
 
The translation says "Let us fight, hang on world".

So is Deku really going to fight AFO? I'm hopeful but wary, because as much as I want Deku to fight AFO, it would feel weird for Deku to face both Shiggy and AFO, it would make everyone else feel useless.
It seems like he is the only one who could fight Prime AFO especially as Endeavor kinda already blew his load when he went all out in Ch. 357.

Also the AFO fight will probably take place before the Shiggy fight and will be more of a true fight since unlike Shiggy, Deku isn't exactly planning on saving AFO. So he can definitely go all out.

Since Tokoyami didn't do much I'm hoping it's something like Deku & Tokoyami plus some other heroes vs AFO. We need to at least berserk Dark Shadow again before the end of the series. Even counting the movies, we have only seen it twice.
 
Also I feel like Re-Destro should be High Hypersonic due to reacting to Tokoyami’s Ragnarok, and Tokoyami can keep up with Dabi

Which would also make Edgeshot High Hypersonic
 
Cluster 's speed:

With this logic, Iida and Nejire would scale too, they were moving alongside Bakugo iirc.

Although they should be decisively below 100% OFA based on the Deku Dark arc. Even if they supposedly managed to launch Iida faster than Faux 100%, that took a combination of probably Recipro Busrt/Extend(?), Flashfreeze Heatwave, Cluster, Acid and Zero Gravity.
 
I calc it before it’s not impressive.
The best part about Bakugo’s new feat is it was capable of traveling that large distance before Shigaraki could attack his arm.
The distance between Shigaraki and Bakugo wasn’t even that large before the attack went off so I think it’s something worth calcing
 
Quick check on Bakugo's Howitzer, and while this wouldn't be close to 7-A or High 6-C. I'm getting 8 kilotons or 7-C results. Was kind of hoping this be higher than his movie explosion, but I'll do this again with better scans. Though Bakugo's attack was also condensed to avoid damaging the surrounding area.

So it could've been even bigger.

Also Bakugo and Endeavor have both loss their right arms. Honestly that isn't simple damage for Bakugo, it may as well been torn off. And Shigaraki was basically unaffected by the blast, the smoke coming off of him and the damage mostly look like burns from heat. The impact itself didn't stop him, he reached through it and grabbed Bakugo's arm to crush it. This was always going to be an issue with Bakugo scaling, since his attacks contain high heat as well.

I mean he should scale to the giant growth hands, since his blast actually blew them apart.

They're strong enough to hurt Mirko but they pale in comparison to Shigaraki's actual body and strength.

Prime AFO vs Izuku? Honestly what else is there? Does anyone actually believe that Endeavor and the others can defeat him? If Izuku doesn't arrive to that battlefield, AFO is going to slaughter all of them and make his way to Shigaraki. Them together would be invincible, even Izuku and everyone wouldn't be able to defeat them.

Izuku with 45% is inferior to Shigaraki (Jaku) who is not quite on par with Prime All Might. While I wouldn't be surprised to hear Prime AFO doesn't have raw power on par with Prime All Might. That still doesn't mean he isn't a massive threat. I think it'd be safe to say he's more dangerous than Shigaraki during the fight at Jaku.

There has to be something which happens here. Izuku has to have a higher percentage control, 50% or higher?
 
Quick check on Bakugo's Howitzer, and while this wouldn't be close to 7-A or High 6-C. I'm getting 8 kilotons or 7-C results. Was kind of hoping this be higher than his movie explosion, but I'll do this again with better scans. Though Bakugo's attack was also condensed to avoid damaging the surrounding area.

So it could've been even bigger.

Also Bakugo and Endeavor have both loss their right arms. Honestly that isn't simple damage for Bakugo, it may as well been torn off. And Shigaraki was basically unaffected by the blast, the smoke coming off of him and the damage mostly look like burns from heat. The impact itself didn't stop him, he reached through it and grabbed Bakugo's arm to crush it. This was always going to be an issue with Bakugo scaling, since his attacks contain high heat as well.

I mean he should scale to the giant growth hands, since his blast actually blew them apart.

They're strong enough to hurt Mirko but they pale in comparison to Shigaraki's actual body and strength.

Prime AFO vs Izuku? Honestly what else is there? Does anyone actually believe that Endeavor and the others can defeat him? If Izuku doesn't arrive to that battlefield, AFO is going to slaughter all of them and make his way to Shigaraki. Them together would be invincible, even Izuku and everyone wouldn't be able to defeat them.

Izuku with 45% is inferior to Shigaraki (Jaku) who is not quite on par with Prime All Might. While I wouldn't be surprised to hear Prime AFO doesn't have raw power on par with Prime All Might. That still doesn't mean he isn't a massive threat. I think it'd be safe to say he's more dangerous than Shigaraki during the fight at Jaku.

There has to be something which happens here. Izuku has to have a higher percentage control, 50% or higher?
Where did you find the size of UA?
 
Decided to see how big Shigaraki's hand growth thing is, and it isn't Type 1 but Type 2 Large Size.

Damn thing is over 200 meters high from what I'm getting. The U.A. building is a lot bigger than I thought it was, actually I don't know how big I thought it was.

The pictures I used are here, and here. The person on the building is Uraraka, during her speech.
This comment from way back here.

Uraraka is standing up there on the edge of the building.
 
Actually I think I can see the U.A. Building in the explosion panel. Using that directly gets me 51 kilotons with the air burst formula. The ground formula gives me 181 Kilotons or High 7-C.

Should wait for the higher quality scans, will be able to see the building better.
 
1 km tall U.A. gives me 3.6 Megatons or Low 7-B+ with the air burst formula. And ground formula gives 12 Megatons or 7-B.

In all seriousness, the U.A. Building seems to be around 200 meters tall using that Uraraka panel. The building would be considered a skyscraper. Which starts from around 100 meters or 150 meters I believe. Watch Horikoshi state the building is only 100 meters tall.
 
Nobody talking about the speed tho?
Assuming Shigaraki's arm was moving at 343 m/s, considering he's on par with All Might who is confirmed to be at least Supersonic. And his arm traveled one meter.

Assuming his arm reached Bakugo at the same time as Bakugo's explosion is shown. Gets me a speed of Massive Hypersonic+ or Mach 2626.

The results should be higher than this, since Shigaraki's arm didn't reach out for one meter. I could make a proper calc when the chapter official comes out with high quality scans. But this doesn't scale to anyone as of yet. Since Shigaraki didn't avoid it, he just tanked it head on.

But using these assumptions it shouldn't be lower than MHS+
 
Assuming Shigaraki's arm was moving at 343 m/s, considering he's on par with All Might who is confirmed to be at least Supersonic. And his arm traveled one meter.

Assuming his arm reached Bakugo at the same time as Bakugo's explosion is shown. Gets me a speed of Massive Hypersonic+ or Mach 2626.

The results should be higher than this, since Shigaraki's arm didn't reach out for one meter. I could make a proper calc when the chapter official comes out with high quality scans. But this doesn't scale to anyone as of yet. Since Shigaraki didn't avoid it, he just tanked it head on.

But using these assumptions it shouldn't be lower than MHS+
Impressive stuff
 
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