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[Qawsedf234]

How much more radiation does Garou emit than just bring in space?

Using the SI measurement of radiation poisoning (Sieverts)

• Being on a plane: 0.001 mSv a hour
• Natural background radiation someone from the US will receive: 0.1 mSv a year
• A chest X-Ray: 1.2 mSv
• The US limit for Nuclear Workers: 50 mSv a year
• The radiation that Chernobyl Recovery workers were it by: 170 mSv
• Unshielded radiation levels in space: 400-900 mSv a year
• 800 rads (8 grays) for consistently fatal ranges of radiation death within 7-28 days even with top medical care = 8,000 mSv
• 1,000 rads (Confirmed threshold for acute radiation syndrome) = 10,000 mSv
• Radiation received by people when Chernobyl went critical: 16,000 mSv
• >3,000 rads (30 grays) range where the person usually dies within second to minutes due to radiation exposure and organ failure = 30,000 mSv

 

[RinneItachi]

Using the SI measurement of radiation poisoning (Sieverts)

• Being on a plane: 0.001 mSv a hour
• Natural background radiation someone from the US will receive: 0.1 mSv a year
• A chest X-Ray: 1.2 mSv
• The US limit for Nuclear Workers: 50 mSv a year
• The radiation that Chernobyl Recovery workers were it by: 170 mSv
• Unshielded radiation levels in space: 400-900 mSv a year
• 800 rads (8 grays) for consistently fatal ranges of radiation death within 7-28 days even with top medical care = 8,000 mSv
• 1,000 rads (Confirmed threshold for acute radiation syndrome) = 10,000 mSv
• Radiation received by people when Chernobyl went critical: 16,000 mSv
• >30,000 rads (30 grays) range where the person usually dies within second to minutes due to radiation exposure and organ failure = 300,000 mSv

Considering that Garou can kill people nigh-instantly if they're close to him, I guess he'd be passively producing hundreds of thousands of mSv at least, possibly millions.

 

[Kachon123]

Recalced this:

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And got 289.11 Teratons / Large Country Level

 

[Qawsedf234]

Considering that Garou can kill people in nigh-instantly if they're close to him, I guess he'd be passively producing hundreds of thousands of mSv at least, possibly millions.

Not millions. I did mess up my conversion for the last one, since that was supposed to be 30,000 mSv and not 300,000.

For reference if you were in one mile of the Little Boy explosion you would receive roughly 9.46 grays or 9,460 mSv and if you were (somehow) able to survive the shockwave, the core of the Little Boy generated 240 grays or 240,000 mSvs. Garou is likely passively emitting about 30,000 mSv considering how fast people are going down, which is about twice the radiation near the hot spot of Chernobyl suffered.

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

Considering that Garou can kill people nigh-instantly if they're close to him,

it take some minutes, not was nigh-instantly

 

[Apeironaxim]

Considering that Garou can kill people nigh-instantly if they're close to him, I guess he'd be passively producing hundreds of thousands of mSv at least, possibly millions.

what? He hasn't killed anyone with his radiation from we saw. What was shown was everyone collapsing and some losing some hair.

 

[Qawsedf234]

what? He hasn't killed anyone with his radiation from we saw.

Only because he was moved. If Garou were to stick around they would all have been dead.

 

[Apeironaxim]

Only because he was moved. If Garou were to stick around they would all have been dead.

after an unknown amount of time

 

[Apeironaxim]

There's also the fact that there would have been a sizable amount of radiation from his nuclear fission attacks. His radiation aura isn't the only source of radiation

 

[Qawsedf234]

after an unknown amount of time

If it would've been within 48 hours it would be enough for 30 grays/30,000 mSv

As a note this isn't like, a massive amount of radiation for a fictional character. If someone can survive a nuke blowing up in their face with no issue then they've already withstood over 10 times the radiation Garou would have emitted.

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

So removing the GBR from him, Garou is one of the biggest radioactive characters on the Wiki like Godzillas in their nuclear states, Toxzon (Classic) at his peak, some Marvel and DC characters.

 

[Qawsedf234]

So removing the GBR from him, Garou is one of the biggest radioactive characters on the Wiki like Godzillas in their nuclear states, Toxzon (Classic) at his peak, some Marvel and DC characters.

In my view, yeah. He's emitting radiation similar to an unshielded reactor. Which is a pretty solid passive power, though nothing utterly unreasonable either.

 

[RinneItachi]

it take some minutes, not was nigh-instantly

Blast says that Bang would simply "die" if he gets too close. Which usually suggests that it would have been very fast. Whereas others were suffering symptoms that would practically be a death sentence in real life after a just few seconds, even when they were 10+ meters away from Garou, so it's not doubtful either.

 

[Qawsedf234]

Hmm, might actually be at least 50 gray (50,000 mSv)

Gastrointestinal death​

Gastrointestinal death is caused by a dose of radiation between 10 and 50 Gray. Whole body doses cause damage to epithelial cells lining the gastrointestinal tract and this combined with the bone marrow damage is fatal. All symptoms become increasingly severe, causing exhaustion and emaciation in a few days and death within 7–14 days from loss of water and electrolytes.[9]

The symptoms of gastrointestinal death are:[9]

• gastrointestinal pain
• anorexia
• nausea
• vomiting
• diarrhea

Central nervous system death​

Central nervous system death is the main cause of death in 24–48 hours among those exposed to 50 Gray.[9]

The symptoms are:[9]

• vomiting
• nausea
• diarrhea
• drowsiness
• lethargy
• tremors
• delirium
• frequent seizures
• convulsions
• heat prostration
• coma
• respiratory failure
• death

So going by this (sourced) nuclear radiation effects paper its 50 grays that is the fast lethal. Its just that 30 grays or more will always be fatal no matter what.

 

[RinneItachi]

what? He hasn't killed anyone with his radiation from we saw. What was shown was everyone collapsing and some losing some hair.

They were bleeding profusely, fainting, and suffering hair loss in seconds of exposure from 10+ meters away, and Blast said that Bang would simply "die" if he got too close, wording that usually suggests very quick death.

 

[ZillertheBucko]

Mode: Burning Godzilla
and then the debate ends

 

[RinneItachi]

I know how Garou will be defeated.

When they return to Earth and Garou gets blown away by a Consecutive Serious Punches, he will spot King, standing valiantly. Garou will realize that his only hope of winning is to use King's power.

But it'll be too much for him to handle. The moment he utters the words Mode: King, Garou's body will explode in a powerful combustion of energy, strong enough to endanger the entire galaxy. But King will contain the blast and devour it.

 

[Quangotjokes]

Using the SI measurement of radiation poisoning (Sieverts)

• Being on a plane: 0.001 mSv a hour
• Natural background radiation someone from the US will receive: 0.1 mSv a year
• A chest X-Ray: 1.2 mSv
• The US limit for Nuclear Workers: 50 mSv a year
• The radiation that Chernobyl Recovery workers were it by: 170 mSv
• Unshielded radiation levels in space: 400-900 mSv a year
• 800 rads (8 grays) for consistently fatal ranges of radiation death within 7-28 days even with top medical care = 8,000 mSv
• 1,000 rads (Confirmed threshold for acute radiation syndrome) = 10,000 mSv
• Radiation received by people when Chernobyl went critical: 16,000 mSv
• >3,000 rads (30 grays) range where the person usually dies within second to minutes due to radiation exposure and organ failure = 30,000 mSv

Interesting, at this point depending on which speed end gets accepted. Garou will be able to defeat DBS Goku.

 

[Qawsedf234]

The moment he utters the words Mode: King, Garou's body will explode in a powerful combustion of energy, strong enough to endanger the entire galaxy. But King will contain the blast and devour it.

If it does happen then the meme thing wouldn't be that imo. I would be that Garou copies King after fighting Saitama, however nothing happens. Garou then has a mental breakdown realizing that King is so wildly beyond not only him, but even Saitama that he cannot even copy a fraction of his power. Utterly destroying his dream of being a monster.

 

[RinneItachi]

Interesting, at this point depending on which speed end gets accepted. Garou will be able to defeat DBS Goku.

Well he will definitely be able to in an actual vs match in the forums as long as speed is being equalized. I'd even say low-diff or mid-diff.

 

[RinneItachi]

If it does happen then the meme thing wouldn't be that imo. I would be that Garou copies King after fighting Saitama, however nothing happens. Garou then has a mental breakdown realizing that King is so wildly beyond not only him, but even Saitama that he cannot even copy a fraction of his power. Utterly destroying his dream of being a monster.

Yeah I considered that as a funny way the fight could end. Tbh, that's honestly something that could happen, but I highly doubt it. The manga has taken a very serious tone in the last few chapters, a joke like that suddenly happening isn't likely.

 

[Epiccheev]

It was able to incap people without resistance within a minute at worst, including a character with mid-high. Only one that could legit stand and still do something noteworthy was Bang through sheer willpower, and getting within melee range would kill him really fast, going by Blast's worry.
Someone with baseline traveled in space should likely be incaped in less than a minute if they go melee.

 

[Quangotjokes]

Well he will definitely be able to in an actual vs match in the forums as long as speed is being equalized. I'd even say low-diff or mid-diff.

Yeah either Goku oneshots, or Garou bfr, blows up planet, or just outpaces until the radiation does it's job lol.

 

[Qawsedf234]

Manga is in serious mode. It ending like that would be a wet noddle moment imo.

including a character with mid-high.

Tbf having regeneration doesn't prevent your molecules from exploding due to radiation shattering your physical being.

 

[Apeironaxim]

Garou copies King and doesn't get any stronger or gain martial arts techniques, but he does suddenly get a lot of knowledge on how to play fighting games

 

[Spinoirr]

OPM manga need to do the king apple joke

 

[Quangotjokes]

Also question, if next chapter it's revealed that the hole actually reach the edge of the universe would we be able to get a possible universal rating since it was originally an omnidirectional attack?

 

[Spinoirr]

Also question, if next chapter it's revealed that the hole actually reach the edge of the universe would we be able to get a possible universal rating since it was originally an omnidirectional attack?

Multi-galaxy at best, take it or leave it

 

[Epiccheev]

Speaking of wich, Zombieman likely has a lot of tumor suppressor genes as a product of his regeneration and Genus research. Otherwise his high cell regeneration rate would have already turned him into an Tetsuo Shima level mutant aberration.

 

[Qawsedf234]

it was originally an omnidirectional attack?

No. For all we know the focusing point extended the range. Like putting water through hose covers or covering an end with your finger.

 

[ZillertheBucko]

quick question, how is garou's new copy ability gonna work in vs threads
is it gonna be able to bump him up tiers and give him new abilities as shown, or is it gonna be completely useless and nonexistent thanks to nlf suppression?

 

[RinneItachi]

Yeah either Goku oneshots, or Garou bfr, blows up planet, or just outpaces until the radiation does it's job lol.

Only way Goku wins with speed equal is if he's bloodlusted, where he could just nuke everything nearby and kill Garou in the blast. But Garou can also nuke the planet as well, like you mentioned.

 

[Epiccheev]

Legit question, but would we assume that a character with Radiation manipulation could cause a character with purely biological regeneration to lose control of their cell proliferation and turn into a tumor monstrosity?

 

[Quangotjokes]

Only way Goku wins with speed equal is if he's bloodlusted, where he could just nuke everything nearby and kill Garou in the blast. But Garou can also nuke the planet as well, like you mentioned.

But couldn't garou also teleport away?

 

[Apeironaxim]

It's kinda interesting to note that Blast's gates either seem to act as a portal to another, unknown dimension, or can be used as a portal to a place up to like 100km away. So Garou saying "we gotta think of a way to get back" makes sense, as just hopping in to another dimension doesn't solve the problem of getting back to Earth, and the maximum range Blast could take them to was from surface to seemingly at least the Karman Line.

 

[Epiccheev]

quick question, how is garou's new copy ability gonna work in vs threads
is it gonna be able to bump him up tiers and give him new abilities as shown, or is it gonna be completely useless and nonexistent thanks to nlf suppression?

Likely useless due to nlf supression. They will let him copy AP in the 4-A range at best, give or take.

 

[RinneItachi]

But couldn't garou also teleport away?

Yes but I imagine Goku would be capable of creating a way to it even accounting for the portals, if he's bloodlusted. Like a Solar Flare+nuke strategy. Still, not saying Garou can't win, I think he'd still be more likely even if Goku is bloodlusted.

But either way, with speed being equalized, Garou has a much higher chance of winning.

 

[Recon1511]

quick question, how is garou's new copy ability gonna work in vs threads
is it gonna be able to bump him up tiers and give him new abilities as shown, or is it gonna be completely useless and nonexistent thanks to nlf suppression?

I guess he will be ably to copy up to a certain AP level (probably 4-A or 3-C depending on how the calcs turn out) and anything beyond that is off bounds

 

[RinneItachi]

It's kinda interesting to note that Blast's gates either seem to act as a portal to another, unknown dimension, or can be used as a portal to a place up to like 100km away. So Garou saying "we gotta think of a way to get back" makes sense, as just hopping in to another dimension doesn't solve the problem of getting back to Earth, and the maximum range Blast could take them to was from surface to seemingly at least the Karman Line.

Blast teleported Saitama and co. from another dimension directly to the Earth and then in the last chapter teleported Saitama and Garou to basically space. Just as a reference.

 

[Apeironaxim]

Blast teleported Saitama and co. from another dimension and then in the last chapter teleported Saitama and Garou to basically space. Yeah.

Yeah it's very clear he can't do the Interdimensional thing if there's too much energy. But in place of that, he can gate to anywhere within 100km