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You know what, that's actually sorta a good point.
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STRONGEST One-Punch Man Discussion Thread!
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Actually, using any form of translation tools other than translators that do their job well is what’s dumb here. Muratas tweet got ******* butchered last time someone here did the same thing.
We need to Get an actual translator to tell us if it’s right.
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Though a counter would be that Garou is just trying to get Saitama to use his full power (which he's said before), and to do so he has to actually try. + He's apparently a stone wall.
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Bro the raw when garou supposedly said Saitama getting limitlessly strong is not even have The word limitless in Japanese in it
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This is sounding dangerously close to confidence scaling…
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That has actually been confirmed by actual translators. So that gets a pass.
but now, we need confirmation by translators for the full power thing. Someone should get on it.
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Here's what Graywords (the guy who translated chapter 167) had to say. He just reposted this reddit comment of his when it came up in the translation server.
https://media.**********.net/attachments/751155853369016460/994791071198486608/unknown.png
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I was right. You people need to do good when thinking that your translations are better than the official ones. This makes people here look bad.
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Something I don't really like about this chapter is it kinda shows that Saitama is incredibly careless with his power. I mean, if Blast wasn't there, he would've literally destroyed the planet and the entire solar system in that collision. There would be no more saving Genos, and everyone would've died. And based on what he knows, he should've had no idea that Blast was capable of transporting them or holding back the energy.
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he was seeing red. And I think this is a good indicator that saitama may not be as good of a person as we think.
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@Ourosboros can you link me to the Reddit page he said that? Can’t find it and I’m curious if people are going to turn against them cause they don’t like what he said.
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In what way? Garou copied what he believed is Saitama’s full power (SSSP that was half the 4-A feat) and we already know he was able to tell Saitama wasn’t using all his power after copying Consecutive Normal Punches. Garou wouldn’t at all be an idiot enough to go back to 4-C if he didnt retain the strength he copied nor use attacks such as a singular Nuclear Fission against Saitama who he literally barraged with and used a GRB on 2 chapters ago. He would stay in Saitama mode.
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“Garou wouldn’t be an idiot”
I dunno, he was enough of an idiot to get his ass beat by a one-handed Saitama instead of immediately copying his strength again
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To be fair he was getting blitzed for basically the entire fight
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That's probably the angriest moment in his entire life. And that was after years of monotonous life where he was suicidial before training and was starting to lose emotions after it. It is not carelessness, he just lost rational thought for a moment in a fit of extreme anger.
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You are right but it is not anywhere as baseless as one. It is not like I am suggesting Homeless Emperor is low 6-B since he thought he is stronger than PS.
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He still decided to copy Saitama again in the end. He probably wanted to do his best with out needing to rely on Saitama’s power or just didn’t believe the power he copied was too far off from Saitama’s full power
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I don’t think Saitama’s a maniac but his spirit doesn’t seem to be indomitable as your average Shonen protag it seems. Dude saw red and lost himself for a moment
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To be fair, it destroying the solar system and so on was the combined power of Garou and Saitama colliding with each other. It could be that it was exponentially increased in power (which explains the Punch^2 as the chapter title).
Later we see Saitama doing Serious Punch against Garou again and again with it all not being close to being as destructive.
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Next chapter gonna reveal that this is all part of Saitama master plan.
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Link?
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In defense to Saitama, many Shonen protags have a Berserk button that have them let loose a destructive power with no conscious thought of their surroundings.
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Oh boy
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Does this seem fair for Garou?
Attack Potency: Large Planet level (Created a black hole), possibly Large Star level (His attack was compared to a real Gamma Ray Burst which produces at least 1 foe or 10^44 joules of energy). Up to Multi-Solar System level with Power Mimicry (Copied and matched Saitama's Serious Punch, producing an explosion that annihilated millions of stars)
Attack Potency: Large Planet level (Created a black hole), possibly Large Star level (His attack was compared to a real Gamma Ray Burst which produces at least 1 foe or 10^44 joules of energy). Up to Multi-Solar System level with Power Mimicry (Copied and matched Saitama's Serious Punch, producing an explosion that annihilated millions of stars)
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Yes but I think "likely" is more fair.
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I quoted the guy who showed the pic.
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https://media.**********.net/attachments/852867462680281141/994854157351657523/IMG_6197.webp
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I'm sorry to say that I don't have one, I'm in the translation discord and that's where I saw the fan translation team discuss the "well you can take the plunge" translation. When Onenation brought the subject up, Graywords replied with a screenshot of his reddit post. If you really want it from me I can ask him tomorrow because i'm going to bed right now
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What I've got for Awakened Garou's Intelligence.
Intelligence: Extraordinary Genius. Gained knowledge on the behavior of all forces and flow of all energy in the universe, and applied this knowledge through replicating complex natural phenomena such as nuclear fission and gamma ray bursts. His aptitude for martial arts and fighting has increased to the point that he can perfectly mimic both the power and technique of skills, including those that can manipulate the reality of the cosmos, in a single glance, and further improve them to perfection past the original states. Garou has stated that his fist is beyond timing, and that all of his strikes are completely unavoidable.
Intelligence: Extraordinary Genius. Gained knowledge on the behavior of all forces and flow of all energy in the universe, and applied this knowledge through replicating complex natural phenomena such as nuclear fission and gamma ray bursts. His aptitude for martial arts and fighting has increased to the point that he can perfectly mimic both the power and technique of skills, including those that can manipulate the reality of the cosmos, in a single glance, and further improve them to perfection past the original states. Garou has stated that his fist is beyond timing, and that all of his strikes are completely unavoidable.
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you think if it's a black hole murata will draw it like that
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How about this?
Here I want to calc Speed Garou and Saitama.
Garou and Saitama distance : 14+16+19+21+24+47+11+12+35+23+16+13+8+9+11+44+23+64+21+40+13+16+10 +18+27+15+15+56+98+18+29+24+20+35+12+34+35+17+10+28+22+9+60+31+28+20+32+27 +10+9+8+17+21+54+20+26+20+27+10+13+16+7+25+29+14+18+53+13+39+20+16+36+18 +18+16+27+18+36+16+14+14+19+92+33+50+17+22+31+23+11+24+50+106+22+22+31+31+32 +20+16+20+14+15+15+20+17+15+17+4+17+51+26+16+36+25+17+22+20+14+15+15+20+32 +18+48+22+22+35+11+19+12+13+13+23+46+13+18+30+25+43+29+21+21+25+45+52*+31+ 22+15+22+33+16+50+41+14+16+19+20+28+14+17+24+19+30+12+36+25+16+50+16+14+24+ 14+16+26+10+137+30+41+12+13+13+13+33+19+24+32+21+37+25+18+14+21+28+28+28+49+ 22+17+53+16+42+16+48+38+50+34+17+16+25+14+25+42
Total 5448px
Io Satellite Diameter 3642000m (388px)
Distance 5448px=51.138.185.6 m
Later, we'll just make the total distance × 2, because what we calculate is half the area of the front ball layer, but not yet.
Time frame assumption is 0.0013 because Garou himself can't react for a while.
Speed=d/t
D=102.276371
T=0.0013
Divide by SOL for result in c
MFTL 262.42c
Here I want to calc Speed Garou and Saitama.
Garou and Saitama distance : 14+16+19+21+24+47+11+12+35+23+16+13+8+9+11+44+23+64+21+40+13+16+10 +18+27+15+15+56+98+18+29+24+20+35+12+34+35+17+10+28+22+9+60+31+28+20+32+27 +10+9+8+17+21+54+20+26+20+27+10+13+16+7+25+29+14+18+53+13+39+20+16+36+18 +18+16+27+18+36+16+14+14+19+92+33+50+17+22+31+23+11+24+50+106+22+22+31+31+32 +20+16+20+14+15+15+20+17+15+17+4+17+51+26+16+36+25+17+22+20+14+15+15+20+32 +18+48+22+22+35+11+19+12+13+13+23+46+13+18+30+25+43+29+21+21+25+45+52*+31+ 22+15+22+33+16+50+41+14+16+19+20+28+14+17+24+19+30+12+36+25+16+50+16+14+24+ 14+16+26+10+137+30+41+12+13+13+13+33+19+24+32+21+37+25+18+14+21+28+28+28+49+ 22+17+53+16+42+16+48+38+50+34+17+16+25+14+25+42
Total 5448px
Io Satellite Diameter 3642000m (388px)
Distance 5448px=51.138.185.6 m
Later, we'll just make the total distance × 2, because what we calculate is half the area of the front ball layer, but not yet.
Time frame assumption is 0.0013 because Garou himself can't react for a while.
Speed=d/t
D=102.276371
T=0.0013
Divide by SOL for result in c
MFTL 262.42c
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Translation
Raws
I haven't checked the first panel's (where garou is in) raws via dictionary yet, but im currently on the second panel (the one where it supposedly says limitlessly again, with garou not being present in that panel) and.. I find no kanji for Limitless, Infinite, Infinity, forever, etc via japanese dictionary. Idk about the first panel yet even tho i ran machine translation with it but with no dictionary quite exactly. Can you or anybody who knows these dudes, to ask them to provide the specific kanji where they got to the conclusion that the raws meant to say "limitless"?. Cant find any.
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