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[Magmag]

Where did Blast damage Garou. Show me the panel.

Well there’s no solidified proof he hurt him or didnt hurt him.
Quoted from Magmag and many others: “Thats why a likely key is being targeted.”

 

[CosmicWreck]

There are other implications aswell, Blast being able to sense energy and still be confident enough to take on Garou

Boros did the exact same thing though. This kind of logic has been proven faulty since before 2016.

while holding back to not kill him or cause too much damage,

I agree Blast was worried about the people but Garou? There was absolutely no indication that he was worried about causing harm to Garou beyond the fact that he feared the battle between two reality warpers and tried to reason with him

Garou copying his powers

Garou was trapped in a loop and copied Blast's own powers to get out of it. Just because he copied his abilities doesn't mean it scales to his AP and even then he probably didn't need it since we later learn Blast's gates can't contain Garou's attacks.

and being surprised by his attacks,

No ones arguing about his speed statistics tbh.

him praising him to be indeed worthy of N1

Doesn't tell us anything we don't know. Blast being above the S-Class is something confirmed since Tatsumaki's statement tbh.

Also, I'm repeating my words but no, Garou saying that to Blast doesn't mean Blast is nothing, it means Garou has a far stronger target to face and copy, that being Saitama

No, the comment is literally saying that even as the best of the S-Class Blast isn't a threat to him anymore. Garou wanting to copy Saitama is because he knows Saitama is still even stronger than he showed. Conflating the two such that it relates to Blast doesn't even make any sense.

Garou's being pretty cocky right now. He stated he was on Saitama's level lazt chapter (when we know that's not true, and he corrected himself this chapter).

Garou being an overconfident kid doesn't change the fact that nothing Blast did affected him at all. You guys are ignoring the statements is one thing, but you're also ignoring the onscreen evidence that showed literally zero damage or indication of pain. You're literally just using him being ragdolled as an indication of scaling, which, as I pointed out before, is kind of meaningless in One Punch Man.

Even during the brief moment they matched Blast noted his gates couldn't hold that much energy.

 

[DbzDB2]

Cosmic Garou could destroy a galaxy cluster by flexing his buttcheeks and mfs would still be like "but Saitama called Boros strong tho"

boros fanboys are like how goku fanboys used to be back in the day

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

And there is no proof that he did either.

You need to provide proof that a punch like that did not hurt Garou. Hell, his head clearly affected by the impact and later considered the same attack something impressive to copy. If Blast had not injured Garou it would be obvious, since he would say something like "No effect?!"

 

[Therefir]

By the way, what happened to those people who were saying that Garou had actually injured Saitama in the previous chapter? Imao.

 

[Kachon123]

Except for the fact that he punched Garou hard enough to make him let go of Genos.

He got knocked back. Of course he would let Genos go.

And Garou's face after the punch appears to be caved in.

His face isn't made of metal.

Him being off-guard is headcanon, he had already dodge Blast's first attack.

Blast was literally right behind Garou in stance the moment Garou came out of the portal. What do you mean by it's headcanon. Read the Manga.

 

[Kachon123]

Well there’s no solidified proof he hurt him or didnt hurt him.
Quoted for Magmag and many others: “Thats why a likely key is being targeted.”

Or keep his unknown rating, with a possibly High 6-A for Tatsumaki reasons.

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

possibly High 6-A

 

[Apeironaxim]

It can be weird and inconsistent in fiction, but realistically, you can absolutely move someone and yet not hurt them. Heck, even in this chapter Genos's ram caused Garou's body to be moved, just not that much. Your weight and your durability are two different things. It would be absolutely feasible for a High 6-A to move a 5-B's body with a hard punch if they were both human weight. They wouldn't do any damage, but again, they're still just human weight. Heck, irl you can move someone's body by smacking them with a pillow, even though it doesn't do damage.

Seriously, moving someone with a punch doesn't mean anything on its own

 

[Magmag]

Or keep his unknown rating,

which im fine with.

with a possibly High 6-A for Tatsumaki reasons.

possibly lol

 

[Kachon123]

which im fine with.

possibly lol

?

 

[Lightning_XXI]

Boros did the exact same thing though. This kind of logic has been proven faulty since before 2016.

Yes yes, Boros and Blast are the same person, with same mindset and same goals

I agree Blast was worried about the people but Garou? There was absolutely no indication that he was worried about causing harm to Garou beyond the fact that he feared the battle between two reality warpers and tried to reason with him

If he's worried about the Environment, he might be pulling his punches to not cause any serious collateral damage, not really something solid, but it's an implication, Blast even said the Environment should come first

He was also trying to teleport Garou to another dimension

Garou was trapped in a loop and copied Blast's own powers to get out of it. Just because he copied his abilities doesn't mean it scales to his AP and even then he probably didn't need it since we later learn Blast's gates can't contain Garou's attacks.

I never said it was JUST because of that

No ones arguing about his speed statistics tbh.

I was, AP isn't everything

Doesn't tell us anything we don't know. Blast being above the S-Class is something confirmed since Tatsumaki's statement tbh.

He wouldn't get into praising Blast for his power if it wasn't something deserved, that's not who Garou is. Moments before Garou was literally tasting his fist a few panels ago, it all serves to back the "Likely" scaling

No, the comment is literally saying that even as the best of the S-Class Blast isn't a threat to him anymore. Garou wanting to copy Saitama is because he knows Saitama is still even stronger than he showed. Conflating the two such that it relates to Blast doesn't even make any sense.

Can you quote where he said Blast wasn't a threat ? Because what Garou said is that he wasn't worthy of his attention once Saitama is around

This is just your headcanon

Also, Garou, who has no physical expression whatsoever and a powerful regeneration, being not scaled to Blast because "no apparent damage" is crazy for me. I won't push this forward for now, we gotta wait for the next chapter, everything can change

 

[Magmag]

?

lol?

 

[Apeironaxim]

Personally I think we should drop this discussion of scaling for now. We're waiting till the fight is over for a reason

 

[Lightning_XXI]

Personally I think we should drop this discussion of scaling for now. We're waiting till the fight is over for a reason

Indeed

 

[Apeironaxim]

inb4 we get someone wild like Tatsumaki somehow absorbing the energy from the radiation to continue fighting

 

[jplion123]

someone is gonna come back and see this and still try to say that tatsumaki is stronger

 

[ZoroNotZolo]

King is the only correct answer for Best S-Class, what are y'all on?

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

Manako needs a profile

 

[Apeironaxim]

Imagine if Watchdog Man suddenly showed up and started taking chunks out of Garou

 

[LordTracer]

Boros did the exact same thing though. This kind of logic has been proven faulty since before 2016.

Not to say that I agree, but that’s pretty much the basis for Armored Boros’ 6-A rating.

 

[CosmicWreck]

Can you quote where he said Blast wasn't a threat ? Because what Garou said is that he wasn't worthy of his attention once Saitama is around

This is just your headcanon

There's absolutely no evidence Garou even noticed Saitama when he was killing Genos though I concede that Garou didn't think he can win without Saitama's power.

 

[Cryo123]

King is the only correct answer for Best S-Class, what are y'all on?

Genos exists.

Also, FTL Genos?

Imagine if Watchdog Man suddenly showed up and started taking chunks out of Garou

Honestly I'm not sure that wouldn't be how a fight between them would go.

 

[Apeironaxim]

High 4-C Watchdog Man out of nowhere sounds based

 

[Cryo123]

High 4-C Watchdog Man out of nowhere sounds based

One shots Saitama

 

[Apeironaxim]

iirc didn't Watchdog Man encounter an early Garou.

High 4-C vs Low 7-B

 

[Lightning_XXI]

That remember me of Metal Bat Vs Garou

He fought for a good while and still was at Low 7-B, despite reaching 6-A against Sage Centipede rather quickly

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

Ironically, Watchdog Man is something much more mysterious than Blast, because even he appeared in this arc, unlike Watchdog

 

[Magmag]

Ironically, Watchdog Man is something much more mysterious than Blast, because even he appeared in this arc, unlike Watchdog

the only s class that haven't taken L's are the mysterious ones. WDM and DK

 

[Lightning_XXI]

Ironically, Watchdog Man is something much more mysterious than Blast, because even he appeared in this arc, unlike Watchdog

I never saw Watchdog Man as being thaaaat mysterious, he had a fight with HH Garou and didn't kill him, and later it was explained how it was a bad matchup for Garou

His origins may be, but his powerlevel isn't that hidden

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

Saitama has the fist that turned against GOD

Watchdog has the paw that turned against GOD

Big teory here

 

[Cryo123]

Saitama has the fist that turned against GOD

Watchdog has the paw that turned against GOD

Big teory here

You could say he bit the hand that feeds him.

God I hate myself sometimes.

 

[SuperGodzilla_Kaiju_King]

This is objectively wrong, Black Holes can have jets emitting mass. Look at quasars for example.

Your own link has various other sources, mechanisms and reasonings for such jets besides black holes so that doesn't help. Furthermore, this does not address forcing out matter like the clouds and generating massive amounts of light.

Also a real black hole would obliterate the planet immediately. https://www.discovermagazine.com/the-sciences/what-to-expect-if-earth-ever-falls-into-a-black-hole
You also can not justify this with AP as Garou verbatim spawns natural events. Not to mention thus far, nothing has provided an AoE justification for the series other than just holding back.

Can you share the calc?

Here's what I did, did a few ends

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https://cdn.**********.com/attachme...1116/Screen_Shot_2022-06-08_at_1.26.43_PM.png

Saitama height
175 cm
246/175 x 1143 =
Beam is 16.07 meters wide
Assuming 20 km horizon length beam
Assuming cylinder beam

https://cdn.**********.com/attachme...9406/Screen_Shot_2022-06-08_at_1.32.38_PM.png

4056501403335.15 cm^3

Times 25700 = 104,252,086,065,713,355 J = 1.04e17 J, city
Times 30852.2 = 125,151,992,595,976,714.83 J = 1.25e17 J, city
Times 5.403e13 = 219,172,770,822,198,154,500,000,000 = 2.2e26 J, multi continental

x 2 cause two beams

Gamma Burst downscale https://imagine.gsfc.nasa.gov/educa...e extremely dense.,or between two black holes. Diameter: 20 km = 20,000 m Velocity: 0.999999c or 299,792,158 m/s Average time: 30 s Length: 8,993,764,740 m

https://cdn.**********.com/attachme...7582/Screen_Shot_2022-06-08_at_1.52.16_PM.png

1270582657174572008717455772976.23/4056501403335.15 = 313,221,303,493,185,526.42 difference https://www.quantamagazine.org/brig...burst will,than even the brightest supernovas. Supernova version: 1.5e44-1e46 Joules/313,221,303,493,185,526.42 = 478,894,629,219,443,928,399,396,999.1 to 31,926,308,614,629,595,226,626,466,606.73 4.79e26-3.2e27 J https://astronomy.swin.edu.au/cosmo...ion was emitted,for the most energetic bursts! High version: 3x10^47 J/313,221,303,493,185,526.42 = 957,789,258,438,887,856,798,793,998,201.78 J = 9.6e29 J
Multi continental to moon

I was going to try using Garou as a metric but my pixel scaler isn't able to account for angles so I couldn't get the beam widening off that so I used Saitama instead

 

[SuperGodzilla_Kaiju_King]

theres no need for discussion.
it was narratively implied to be a black hole, just accept.

I love how hypocritical this site is, but no, he would've spawned a real black hole but nothing supports this.

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Sniff sniff, I smell clown behavior

 

[Quangotjokes]

Blast should definitely scale from Garou. He didn't just rag doll him but he kept it up lol. Garou also acknowledged his strength as well.

 

[Epiccheev]

I recall someone saying "First we upgrade Garou to High 5-A, possibly High 4-C then we wait for someone to downgrade him to High 6-A somehow" Well, it arrived even quicker than expected.

 

[jplion123]

i love the "but if it was real it should have destroyed the earth!!" argument because it acts like the earth shouldn't have been destroyed a dozen times over in the last ten chapters alone

 

[Cryo123]

He can replicate the flow of all energy in the universe, replicate any technique and its power, as shown and stated with the consecutive normal punches, and the author explains to us what a GBR is instead of just letting it be a big energy blast or something.

How could it not be considered a real GBR?

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

How could it not be considered a real GBR?

Because