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One Piece: Massive Haki Redux
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I don't need to explain that, soul pocus which requires someone to be afraid steals their life span not their energy.
Look up the definition of spirit.
I don't need statements, I provided the feats of it being related to souls in my first post about it. You've provided no evidence of contradictions.
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That's right before he used the shockwave/Blast against the elephant. Luffy and Hyogoro do it as well in wano when showcasing the barrier/dura neg abilities.
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sorry its just i dont think that far
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Yee their soul... You are saying haki is someone's soul.
It is connected... Of course but Haki being soul is not true
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"With its roots in traditional Chinese culture, Chi (also spelled qi) refers to the vital life force or energy that runs through all living beings. It is the essence of existence that flows through each of us, uniting the body, mind and spirit. It is what makes us alive."
Ki is tied to vitality and life force. Not the Soul.
"On a smaller scale, qi is a specific kind of energy which flows through and animates the body. In Daoist cosmology, it is separate from souls (Hun and Po). No. Qi is not soul energy."
I still HEAVILY agree with Emin on this. Soul Pocus is used exclusively to drain your lifespan and make it her property. While draining armament (which by definition is "spirit" according to rayleigh) is different altogether.
Again- if using Soul Manip on a strong haki user was EASY, Law would've just switched Kaido and Big Mom's souls with some random fodder. If strong haki negates his Amputate and Shambles, there's no reason it doesn't work the same for his Soul manip.
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OOOOH...that makes much more sense actually yeahYee their soul... You are saying haki is someone's soul.
It is connected... Of course but Haki being soul is not true
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I said haki is a soul based power, soul pocus steals life span while what Big Mom did against Luffy was steal energy. So I don't need to explain why Luffy wasn't afraid if it wasn't soul pocus.
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By taking bits of their soul...
His soul because you think haki is soul based.
If it is then there should be much more proof and confirmation on it being based on soul when there is literally brook and big mom who can manipulate souls...
Oh there is also haki not affecting souls
While brook who actually uses soul manipulation could damage him.
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When has Big Mom ever taken away souls or things related to souls without using Soul Pocus?
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Using her incarnates to take away souls
Ripping the soul from Zeus
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Haki being a soul based power doesn't mean it will effect other souls.
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Why wouldn't it? If it's soul based then it should be able to work against souls
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this is not how it works
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Just cuz it resists soul based abilities doesn't mean it can effect souls.
It resists ice, corrosion, space manip and more. But have you seen busoshoku creating ice, corroding things and whatnot?
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Never said anything about resisting... I'm talking about haki not being able to affect souls
Oh there is also haki not affecting souls
While brook who actually uses soul manipulation could damage him.
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Not at all, haki is soul based as it's a power derived from the soul which as explained is why they can still use it when their souls are placed in different bodies and while it will get absorbed by the soul fruit.
But that doesn't grant it the ability to effect others souls or whatever.
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Haki definitely is connected somehow to the soul I'm not denying that... I'm denying haki being soul based as there is literally nothing of haki being soul based besides big mom who supposedly drained luffy's haki
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What if it is an aspect of it?
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Has anyone even TRIED to argue against the fact that haki users can use their haki just as potently even when their souls are in different bodies? If that's not resistance to soul manip I don't know what that is.
And Enma draining Zoro's Ryuou/Buso to the point where it started effecting his life.
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Top tier work King, I agree with the changes and go with the Tabbers.
For the soul stuff thats being discussed rn I guess ill remain neutral.
For the soul stuff thats being discussed rn I guess ill remain neutral.
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That doesn't really mean soul...
"Haki" is a power that lies dormant in all the world's creatures... "Presence", "fighting spirit" and "intimidation"... It is not different from the things that humans can naturally sense such as these... 'The act of not doubting'. That is strength!
Haki should be able to resist all devil fruit abilities, having their souls shambles isn't resistance to soul, that's the opposite
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It specifically says it drains "Ryuo", which is synonymous with Busoshoku, which is directly related to one's spirit.
It literally only worked on characters who didn't have good armament. Sanji, Franky, Chopper, Nami, Smoker and Tashigi all had lower Haki than Luffy, Law (the user), and Zoro. And even then, the stronger one of those character (Sanji) still retained a strong enough spirit to use his Haki through another character's body. A far weaker one at that.
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That's if you are already accepting as haki being soul based.
ok? All law did was change their spirit, not remove their spirits, why resistance to soul manipulation?
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Then idk... It kinda still would be unknown
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Because of the fact that haki originates from THE SPIRIT, users are still capable of using it even if their spirit is transferred into another body.
Funny enough, Law's Soul switching KO'D Tashigi, while the straw hats were still conscious even after that, meaning it has a similiar effect on the SOUL that Haoshoku Haki does when your spirit isn't strong enough to withstand it.
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Luffy could still use his haki after big mom supposedly drained luffy's haki supposedly meaning its soul based
Also when big mom activated her haki it literally nearly looked the exact same as Rayleighs haki
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Also when big mom activated her haki it literally nearly looked the exact same as Rayleighs haki
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A: That's WAY after anyway???
B: Zoro was using his haki while Enma was actively draining him anyway. It's not new.
Rayleigh was using the Emission. Emission has an aura. Luffy showed it. Hyo showed it.
Big Mom was using base armament as far as we know. The aura is from her, not the haki. Direct contact was made after all, and she didn't dura neg Luffy or he would've said something about it.
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Also nothing in the anime does it show her using her devil fruit or draining his haki
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@MonkeyOfLife; yeah, that does support it just being Gear 4 being deactivated.
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Probably got drained fast because
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The anime doesn't show an aura around Rayleigh's hand when he's introducing Haki either. Which is a counter-argument you've been relying on for a while.
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It proves the aura thing being haki... Which is why I correlated it with Rayleigh's haki aura thing to big mom
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The panel monkey posted was actually before Big Mom did it.
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