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One Piece: Massive Haki Redux
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Update: I got it
Gimme a few minutes hours and then I'll work on the stuff
Gimme a few minutes hours and then I'll work on the stuff
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Haki page and references are done.
Finally they're done.
Before we add those, we need to talk about if we're revising the Notable Attacks and Techniques section.
Should it even have Haki in there? Haki has been greatly explained on the wiki page. Haki doesn't have notable techniques or anything, it's just it's basic usages and such
I suggest we remove all Haki from the notable attacks and techniques sections, and the only thing on the profiles about Haki would be the category and these
Finally they're done.
Before we add those, we need to talk about if we're revising the Notable Attacks and Techniques section.
Should it even have Haki in there? Haki has been greatly explained on the wiki page. Haki doesn't have notable techniques or anything, it's just it's basic usages and such
I suggest we remove all Haki from the notable attacks and techniques sections, and the only thing on the profiles about Haki would be the category and these
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Maybe just notable attacks that includes haki? like ryuo(ryou) forgot how it spelled
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that isn't a notable attack either, it's just another stage (technically Ryuo is just another name for Buso but I won't get into that here) which is already well defined on the page
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I can agree with this, I don’t really think it’s necessary to have haki explained in notable attacks
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My bad watching it again after a long time but well if you say so it's fine i guess
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I agree considering most are either empty or are just copy and pasted from the haki page itself. Although realising this it's probably best to add a Goken description to the haki page instead since it's only described on the haki Notable attacks/techniques section.
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Yeah it makes sense to remove Haki from the notable techniques part.
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I don't think that Haki should be removed from the Notable Attacks sections. We don't need full descriptions on exactly what each type is, but we could at least list character's individual Haki feats there.
With references preferably.
For most characters the section would be quite small or unnecessary if a character has minimal feats, but Haki is still a very "notable technique."
With references preferably.
For most characters the section would be quite small or unnecessary if a character has minimal feats, but Haki is still a very "notable technique."
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Also this can be added now
For the topic of notable attacks, me and Damage talked about it offsite
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Actually hold off on this
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Basically (correct me if i'm wrong) we're planning on adding Haki in the NA&T section for those who have feats with each specific color of haki, and those without feats don't get it put in the section
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Since Luffy could use Haoshoku Haki even while unconscious in Chapter 924, would that grants Haoshoku Haki Instinctive Reaction
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nada, just means that he can use it while unconscious, but instinctive reaction isn't just 1 time unconscious uses, it's usually like unconscious sentience
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Updating profiles (I need time to do that), adding the new updated Haki page (specifically only tabbers) to replace the page, and that's it for now other than this
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Just a thought but is Kenbunshoku and Busoshoku really better to use on the profiles than Observation and Armament?
Generally speaking I think we should be using the English translations where we can, especially for terminology like this where we want to make it clear to anyone visiting the pages who may not know One Piece well.
Generally speaking I think we should be using the English translations where we can, especially for terminology like this where we want to make it clear to anyone visiting the pages who may not know One Piece well.
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I disagree, the One Piece wiki does the same thing and doesn't seem to suffer from that problem. If needed something like "(also known as armament haki)" could appear on the profiles in the Notable Attacks/techniques section.
An issue I've noticed with using the English is it takes more space on the profile; saying Armament Haki compared to just Busoshoku while not a major difference does get tedious if a profile's statistics mentions it a bunch of times.
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We're not the OP Wiki, and countless other wikis also use mostly English terminolgy if we're getting into that.
I think it makes more sense for us, an English speaking wiki, to preferably use the English terminology where we can.
That doesn't mean neglecting to mention the original Japanese names at all, just that on profiles the English version would take priority.
Actually the difference would be changing "Busoshoku" to "Armament". It's actually 1 less letter.
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Thought of that, but then it creates confusion as Armament and Observation are regular words on their own with their own meanings besides haki.
Using Busoshoku or Kenbunshoku doesn't have that issues and makes it easier to look up and be certain on what it's referring too.
Plus for the sake of space like mentioned on the page currently Busoshoku, Kenbunshoku and Haoshoku are also abbreviated to Buso, Kenbun and Hao.
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Didn't claim we were, but regardless they use the Japanese for the terminology and don't seem to suffer the problems you're mentioning.
And if someone knows nothing of One Piece what difference does it make if their first time reading up on the pages is Armament Haki or Busoshoku.
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Well, the OP wiki actually uses "Busoshoku Haki" instead of just "Busoshoku" like you're suggesting.
But I'm not a fan of the OP wiki's naming scheme anyway.
We're not so limited in space that we need to abbreviate these Japanese terms even further.
Not when they're capitalized.
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I never said it was a case of limited space. The issue is that many profiles are insanely bloated and hard to read, Luffy for example due to all his gears has this issue despite only having three keys currently (which is inevitably going to increase), it's better to save space where you can to solve this issue.
As the page's name, but you'll notice throughout the page they'll just refer it to Busoshoku.
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I meant on other character's pages.
Either way, that's no different to us using "Armament" or "Observation" which when capitalized is referring to a proper term and not the generic word.
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You're right, but I still prefer the Japanese terms as they can be abbreviated further in the stats section.
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Using the original is better in this scenario, as it's cleaner
That's what we have the Haki page for, to define those terms for those who may not understand
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It's moreso for the Powers & Abilities section I'm thinking of.
Right now for Kaido for example, we have:
I'm wondering if using the English terminology would be better.
It's not as condensed, but it's instantly a lot clearer as to the types of Haki than having to look them up.
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I'm still struggling to see how this is clearer to those with little knowledge on the series.
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Many Bleach terms aren't translated in the English version, like Bankai is kept as "Bankai" even in the official release.
Whereas Busoshoku has an actual translation to English.
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