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STRONGEST One-Punch Man Discussion Thread!
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He surprised Garou because he had grown a lot stronger in a short time. They're equal in AP. This wasn't a speed feat. Hitting hard and running fast have differences.
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No one has debunked this yet.
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Garou literally says "This guy hasn't changed". He already knows the nature of Bad's powers and has no reason to be surprised.
And he literally says that he will not slow down for him and Bat better catch up with him. In the end, in the last pages, they go hand in hand, continuing to strengthen each other and it would not make sense if Garou had to slow down.
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Oh well. FTL Metal Bat then.
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Yeah, he only used 0.1% of his FTL speed.
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I think FTL reactions for SC and Bad is fine and we should wait for next week to see if SC is FTL in movement speed if he can keep up with Awakening Breath Garou in the race to get his core back.
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Well. Not bad at all
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If MHS SC is used that is that would mean SC is .0002ish% of Garou/PS calc. Wanted to mention Garou was knocked down but SC still caught Garou, if SC was MHS, SC would appear slower than even a statue to Garou. Garou has great perception, sight, and everything involving senses. Yet he was still caught by SC, after he got caught he clearly wasn’t injured since he did rip out of SC’s grip strength.
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Tbh EOW should have FTL reactions too. Otherwise the hostage scenario would make even less sense than it does already.
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He wasn’t bleeding or anything unless you’re assuming he was paralyzed and 5 seconds later broke through SC grip strength and powered up.
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But with that same logic if Garou isn’t confident in blitzing SC then that means SC is FTL. He would have nothing to worry about if there’s more than a 50K difference in speed.
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There is zero reason for Garou to worry if SC isnt FTL in reactions. But it would still be possible for SC to worry about Garou speeding up or moving even if he were still FTL in reactions himself.
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Garou saying he purposefully let himself get hurt to further his evolution would probably fix this entire hostage and speed scenario.
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shut up toothpaste boy, go get a phd
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I still want to know KE Ocean Grand Cannon's, given that this is an ultimate technique that should definitely be higher than PE. Moreover, this is a chertov water cutter, the essence of which is that the water goes at great speed due to pressure. KE should fit perfectly here, and we also do not know how deep the jet went into the ground, so the calculation of 7-A does not refute this, because it is a low-ball.
And so:
Eye ENO = 45 pixels = 2800 meters;
The diameter of the cutter at the base = 8 pixels = 497 meters;
Panel height = 1138 pixels;
Distance = 497*1138/(8*2 tan(70/2)) = 74605 meters;
Millipede width = 1160 meters = 80 pixels;
The diameter of the cutter at the end = 174 pixels = 2523 meters;
Since the cutter has a different width at the beginning and at the end, I will use the truncated cone formula to find the volume.
V=⅓πH(R₁²+R₁R₂+R₂²)
V = 153664201986 m^3;
Water density = 1000 kg/m^3;
Weight = 153664201986000 kg;
The attack implies speed and occurred in one frame, so I'll take 2 ends - 1 and 3 seconds.
Mid end:
Speed = 24868 m/sec;
KE = 4.7514309976599 * 10^22 Joules = 11,356 Teratons of TNT = 6-B;
High end:
Speed = 74605 m/sec;
KE = 4.2764025383035 * 10^23 Joules = 102.208 Teratons of TNT = High 6-B;
And so:
Eye ENO = 45 pixels = 2800 meters;
The diameter of the cutter at the base = 8 pixels = 497 meters;
Panel height = 1138 pixels;
Distance = 497*1138/(8*2 tan(70/2)) = 74605 meters;
Millipede width = 1160 meters = 80 pixels;
The diameter of the cutter at the end = 174 pixels = 2523 meters;
Since the cutter has a different width at the beginning and at the end, I will use the truncated cone formula to find the volume.
V=⅓πH(R₁²+R₁R₂+R₂²)
V = 153664201986 m^3;
Water density = 1000 kg/m^3;
Weight = 153664201986000 kg;
The attack implies speed and occurred in one frame, so I'll take 2 ends - 1 and 3 seconds.
Mid end:
Speed = 24868 m/sec;
KE = 4.7514309976599 * 10^22 Joules = 11,356 Teratons of TNT = 6-B;
High end:
Speed = 74605 m/sec;
KE = 4.2764025383035 * 10^23 Joules = 102.208 Teratons of TNT = High 6-B;
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Wait wait wait
We are just scaling Metal Bat and going to ignore the chapter not only saying he is far weaker, but that he had a extra amp thanks to his connection to Garou ? Did I missed something ?
We are just scaling Metal Bat and going to ignore the chapter not only saying he is far weaker, but that he had a extra amp thanks to his connection to Garou ? Did I missed something ?
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Bat was weaker at the beginning and in the middle of the battle, but at the end he began to go toe to toe. Claiming that he's much weaker doesn't make sense when Bad opens up Sage's tendrils, parries the ultimate, and breaks the shell.
Bad became stronger not because of the connection with Garou, but because of the resonance in general. And because they both prevail and develop, they began to do it in tandem.
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We are agreeing that Metal Bat is on the same level WITH amps. If it has to added, then we'll probably use a separate key or specifically mention that it's caused due to a specific conditions.
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Did the resonance happen the entire time? I thought it only happened when they countered the 6666 attack from SC. Previously, he did survive being struck so many times, so his durability should somewhat scale.
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It seems to me that One and Murata themselves have not yet fully figured out how this resonance works. I don't think it's a special ability of Garou or Bad at all.
It's just that both of them always overcome and become stronger with all their efforts. Probably seeing how their partner tries and goes forward, the second one continues to get up and become stronger.
I don't see the point of making a separate key for Bad. If Garou made all his allies and opponents stronger, then it would affect both Flash and Platinum.
It's just that most likely, Bad not only becomes stronger from damage and anger, but also subconsciously adapts to the strength of people on the battlefield, growing to exactly the values that he needs to win.
That's why he reached Low 7-B-7-B in the battle with Garou for the first time and that's why he reached Low 6-B/High 6-B in about the same time frame now.
It's just that both of them always overcome and become stronger with all their efforts. Probably seeing how their partner tries and goes forward, the second one continues to get up and become stronger.
I don't see the point of making a separate key for Bad. If Garou made all his allies and opponents stronger, then it would affect both Flash and Platinum.
It's just that most likely, Bad not only becomes stronger from damage and anger, but also subconsciously adapts to the strength of people on the battlefield, growing to exactly the values that he needs to win.
That's why he reached Low 7-B-7-B in the battle with Garou for the first time and that's why he reached Low 6-B/High 6-B in about the same time frame now.
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Both Garou and Metal Bat have Fighting Spirit. Them fighting together made their Fighting Spirits resonate and this amplified Metal Bat's power far beyond what it normally would.
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Garou and Bad only accelerated each other's reactive evolution.
Bat was already able to intercept and stop Sage's tendrils, as well as tanked the march of her legs. His durability was already on this league. He also became strong enough from her blows to break the tendrils.
It probably would have taken much longer for the process of growing strength, but in the end he would have done it.
Similarly, he was sure that he would defeat Elder Centipede if he continued the fight, and I don't think Bad is so stupid that he doesn't understand that he will never defeat this enemy.
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Garou has a lot of amps
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Had so many amps he started giving them out to other people.
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Tareo country level when?
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I don't think the durability of its antennas is close to its amour, considering it wasn't surprised as much as when he broke the shell after being amped by the resonance.
Him chopping off the antennas is due to Fighting Spirit, but him countering SC's drilling attack and breaking its carapace is due to ''resonance'', not Fighting Spirit apparently.
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Your usage of the word "objective" is incredibly cringe and stupidly arrogant. You can disagree without stating your opinion as fact.
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