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STRONGEST One-Punch Man Discussion Thread!

TheRustyOne said:
Wasn't that was the point of taking the airship hostage.

He told Garou if he moved an inch Evil Ocean Water would destroy the ship. Of course Garou wouldn't avoid Sage's attack in that case, the kid would die.

After EOW is gone, Garou is free and SC instantly goes to try and get the airship. This implies to me that he has zero confidence in beating Garou by himself, and we've seen Garou can easily land dozens of hits on SC with him being unable to react whatsoever.

Next time SC is able to physically wrapped the airship in its feelers or whatever, and Garou once again cannot move or SC will destroy the airship and kill the kid. While it isn't stated in this chapter, the fact SC did that in the first place means the only reason he'd grab the ship is for a hostage to keep Garou from moving.

Once SC got shot Garou was able to pry open SC's hands and dodge his attack at the same time. The proceeds to land dozens of blows on his face once again, and goes to destroy the feeler things that are wrapped around the airship. At no point does SC ever attack Garou while he doesn't have the ship held hostage.

The only real speed feat SC has is Garou not instantly catching up with him in the last chapter. But even Metal Bat was matching Garou's pace and he had little Fighting Spirit at that point. This is better than the combat feats, but I'm not really sold on this either.
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Let me play devils advocate with reverse logic. Garou wasn’t confident in his speed to get to the heli, meaning somewhere in this mix EOW and/or SC are FTL.
 
Magmag said:
Let me play devils advocate with reverse logic. Garou wasn’t confident in his speed to get to the heli, meaning somewhere in this mix EOW and/or SC are FTL.
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Yes... but Garou also wasn't outrunning basic Metal Bat who had little or possibly no fighting spirit.

So I highly doubt there is much logic here in the first place.
 
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TheRustyOne said:
Yes... but Garou also wasn't outrunning basic Metal Bat who had little or possibly no fighting spirit.

So I highly doubt there is much logic here in the first place.
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if I recall correctly everyone in the forum concluded MB was fodder in chapter 157 and Garou wasn’t trying also MB was a non factor. In this chapter he is now relevant since it’s explained how his fighting spirit amped him.
 
To be honest, I am now very confused by the current Sage size rating, although I calculated it myself.
I mean - we have at most 2-3 pages where Sage has a width of 2 kilometers and on the contrary we already have several chapters where we are shown a width of 30-50 meters.
Murata does not even try to show his monstrous scale against the background of ordinary people.
 
NikHelton said:
To be honest, I am now very confused by the current Sage size rating, although I calculated it myself.
I mean - we have at most 2-3 pages where Sage has a width of 2 kilometers and on the contrary we already have several chapters where we are shown a width of 30-50 meters.
Murata does not even try to show his monstrous scale against the background of ordinary people.
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To make fights visible with a human sized character and a large size type 2 and above, you have to compensate by making the character smaller. That’s how fights are visibly pleasing, do you want murata to just draw a fight from outer space where we see SC as a swiggly line moving back and forth from being hit by nothing(Garou just he’s to small).
 
Read the chapter. Was a lot better than the last one, and I'm glad that Metal Bat only really helped after getting heavily damaged. Which means that with Fighting Spirit he might scale to characters like Garou a chapter ago (and thus around Platinum Sperm level) in terms of AP, but maybe not speed, I think that's an argument of its own.

Still, I feel like he was hurt as badly if not more against Garou, still feels a little inconsistent, but I'll take it over Metal Bat peaking at Low-Mid Dragon lol.
 
Magmag said:
To make fights visible with a human sized character and a large size type 2 and above, you have to compensate by making the character smaller. That’s how fights are visibly pleasing, do you want murata to just draw a fight from outer space where we see SC as a swiggly line moving back and forth from being hit by nothing(Garou just he’s to small).
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It looks rather exaggerated when it has been observed for 3 chapters in a row. Which, by the way, are not 10-15 pages, but 30-40 each.

I mean. A couple of angles where they show us how wide the SS is and how small the heroes are on its shell and I would have no questions.

Even the moment when Sage holds Garou in his huge fist. Show the difference in size there and the reader would accept it. But throughout the fight, we are shown that Sage is not much larger than his younger brother.
 
RinneItachi said:
Прочтите главу. Было намного лучше, чем предыдущее, и я рад, что Металлическая Летучая Мышь действительно помогла только после сильного повреждения. Это означает, что с Боевым духом он может масштабироваться до таких персонажей, как Гару главы назад (и, следовательно, примерно до уровня Платиновой спермы) с точки зрения AP, но, возможно, не скорости, я думаю, что это отдельный аргумент.

Тем не менее, я чувствую, что он пострадал так же сильно, если не больше, против Гару, все еще чувствует себя немного непоследовательным, но я возьму это на себя, а не Металлическую Летучую мышь, достигшую пика в Низко-среднем драконе, лол.
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Bat and Garou are currently High-Dragon
 
NikHelton said:
I mean. A couple of angles where they show us how wide the SS is and how small the heroes are on its shell and I would have no questions.
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Yeah you would have no questions bc you won't be looking at anything, if he drew it to scale you would see nothing on SC's back, not even a pixel.
NikHelton said:
Even the moment when Sage holds Garou in his huge fist. Show the difference in size there and the reader would accept it. But throughout the fight, we are shown that Sage is not much larger than his younger brother.
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For the same reason i mentioned, if you want it drawn to scale you would think SC is dumb since hes swinging at the air.
 
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Magmag said:
Yeah you would have no questions bc you won't be looking at anything, if he drew it to scale you would see nothing on SC's back, not even a pixel.

For the same reason i mentioned, if you want it drawn to scale you would think SC is dumb since hes swinging at the air.
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I'm not saying to draw Sage from a full overview. It is enough to draw Garou normal and show what width Sage is spacious. Or to depict it with the help of objects such as buildings.

Now it only breaks the scaling of the crater.
 
NikHelton said:
I'm not saying to draw Sage from a full overview. It is enough to draw Garou normal and show what width Sage is spacious. Or to depict it with the help of objects such as buildings.
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If you want to draw garou and sc in the same panel you would need an overview. If he drew it to scale and drew garou normal sized, all you would see are SC's eyes. Also with ur 2km logic, SC's arms would need to be less than a foot big.
You probably didn't mean this literally but either way SC cannot physically be smaller than triple digits in kms and the 6666 legs further supports his huge size.
NikHelton said:
Now it only breaks the scaling of the crater.
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not really, SC being 2/3km wide makes perfect sense
 
Magmag said:
If you want to draw garou and sc in the same panel you would need an overview. If he drew it to scale and drew garou normal sized, all you would see are SC's eyes. Also with ur 2km logic, SC's arms would need to be less than a foot big.
You probably didn't mean this literally but either way SC cannot physically be smaller than triple digits in kms and the 6666 legs further supports his huge size.

not really, SC being 2/3km wide makes perfect sense
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All I'm saying is just about the width. She is the most questionable element that is shown in these chapters.
I mean, what you write works as an excuse, but it works when such interaction does not happen often and is an exception.
In our case, the exception is the width of 2 km.
A great example is the fight between Saitama and Marugori.
 
NikHelton said:
All I'm saying is just about the width. She is the most questionable element that is shown in these chapters.
I mean, what you write works as an excuse, but it works when such interaction does not happen often and is an exception.
In our case, the exception is the width of 2 km.
A great example is the fight between Saitama and Marugori.
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The width still makes sense, it tore up a bigger hole in the already 2km wide crater tats made and SC is calced at being 2/3km wide.
The fight between Saitama and Marugori? im confused on ur argument.
 
Icl I'm getting tired of the whole metal Bat and Garou Vs Sage fight, if this ends up dragging out then I'll be surprised if it doesn't get even more hate than Psykorochi.

If One wanted to make Metal Bat have an effect in this arc then he should have made Metal Bat fight and kill Fuher Ugly, Gums and help Darkshine fight someone (HE?) as a way to further his rivalry with mask, feed Murata's hateboner for mask and not create such huge powerscaling inconsistencies that he needs for Garou to accidentally invent water stream ******** shart or whatever he's doing to amp Metal Bat so he can fight Elder Centipede².

I used to be a part of the crowd that said "wait for ONE and Murata to finish before making judgements" but at this point I feel like saying something rather than having to endure Garou powering up again fighting another centipede like ******* "dead centipede, disaster level very unknown" with Amai Mask or Child Emperor and wait for AG next year.

This isn't to say that I hate the manga or anything and I limit my judgement to what's happened so far.
 
It was an example that characters can be combined with each other and be of different sizes. You can see it especially well in the anime.
 
SemiRaedi said:
Icl I'm getting tired of the whole metal Bat and Garou Vs Sage fight, if this ends up dragging out then I'll be surprised if it doesn't get even more hate than Psykorochi.
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Pretty sure MB is dazing off at the end of the chapter just gonna be a 1v1 now.
SemiRaedi said:
If One wanted to make Metal Bat have an effect in this arc then he should have made Metal Bat fight and kill Fuher Ugly, Gums and help Darkshine fight someone (HE?) as a way to further his rivalry with mask, feed Murata's hateboner for mask and not create such huge powerscaling inconsistencies that he needs for Garou to accidentally invent water stream ******** shart or whatever he's doing to amp Metal Bat so he can fight Elder Centipede².
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dont trip, i already said this but Amai mask is next after garou takes out SC. then the MB v AM rivalry will be there.
 
NikHelton said:
It was an example that characters can be combined with each other and be of different sizes. You can see it especially well in the anime.
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Wanted to mention Marugori is smaller than even a single one of SC's 3333 scales. Also marguori vs Saitama had no action and there were more overview panels than anything else which made everything else look very undetailed and look like squiggly lines.
 
Magmag said:
dont trip, i already said this but Amai mask is next after garou takes out SC. then the MB v AM rivalry will be there.
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If Garou fights Monster Amai this arc then Garou might as well fight Tatsumaki too for the psychic sisters arc
 
Oh right anyways calling it now.

Now that all the heroes except for Saitama and King are down I’m predicting that Garou will evolve next chapter into his monster form after defeating Sage Centipede. And this time they will blatantly show God as the reason why Garou entered his monster form unlike in the webcomic where it was implied that God might’ve given him a power up after he was destroyed by Saitama in the first half of their battle and was sent flying to the sky.

Could be wrong but might as well make the prediction now.
 
SemiRaedi said:
If Garou fights Monster Amai this arc then Garou might as well fight Tatsumaki too for the psychic sisters arc
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not monster amai, just amai mentally wins, they're perfect parallels, monster trying to be human, human trying to be monster
 
Peter1129 said:
Oh right anyways calling it now.

Now that all the heroes except for Saitama and King are down I’m predicting that Garou will evolve next chapter into his monster form after defeating Sage Centipede. And this time they will blatantly show God as the reason why Garou entered his monster form unlike in the webcomic where it was implied that God might’ve given him a power up after he was destroyed by Saitama in their first battle and was sent flying to the sky.

Could be wrong but might as well make the prediction now.
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I feel like rather than that, we get a shot of garou destroying the core, and the moon in the background obviously but garou wont get corrupted and it'll follow webcomic continuity where he gets "corrupted" midway through saitama. Of course it'll be Garou destroying SC, then Amai Mask, then saitama. you can't forget my boy amai.
 
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