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STRONGEST One-Punch Man Discussion Thread!

Hey.... for all the talk of Tornado/Psykos fusion scaling to Orochi... wasn't Orochi reduced to pulp? So even if he did recover much of his power from absorbing monsters, there's nothing to suggest he was equal to his fullpower beforehand. Or that fusing with Psykos equaled or surpassed his original power. Especially since he specifically hid his power from Psykos. All her being shocked by his power means is that Orochi post-absorbing monsters is stronger than anything he had shown her before, not that he was stronger than he was before Saitama beat him.

Just think people are assuming Orochi got stronger after Saitama because of near death+ absorption, and ignoring the fact he lost all his power.
 
Scumerage said:
Hey.... for all the talk of Tornado/Psykos fusion scaling to Orochi... wasn't Orochi reduced to pulp? So even if he did recover much of his power from absorbing monsters, there's nothing to suggest he was equal to his fullpower beforehand. Or that fusing with Psykos equaled or surpassed his original power. Especially since he specifically hid his power from Psykos. All her being shocked by his power means is that Orochi post-absorbing monsters is stronger than anything he had shown her before, not that he was stronger than he was before Saitama beat him.

Just think people are assuming Orochi got stronger after Saitama because of near death+ absorption, and ignoring the fact he lost all his power.
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Weren't they gifted more power through God though? If I'm not wrong, Orochi believed that he could take revenge on Saitama with the power he gained through the fusion and the boost from God.
 
Psykos not knowing about Orochi's full power also makes more sense in this redraw, because instead of being a mama's boy who follows all her orders this one has been hiding his true power and wearing a mask, plus the whole prophecy thing only he seems to know
 
Nehz_XZX said:
Weren't they gifted more power through God though? If I'm not wrong, Orochi believed that he could take revenge on Saitama with the power he gained through the fusion and the boost from God.
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Yeah, it would be underwhelming if psykorochi + God were weaker than the original Orochi form. But with his new feat being massively above anything else in the series including his later feats as psykorochi is kinda...ugh
 
RinneItachi said:
Boros was the strongest opponent Saitama had faced. The one and only foe, especially at the time, to come even remotely close to giving Saitama a good fight. He could surprise Saitama, impress him, debatably even slightly harm him, and make him get serious. He was a parallel to Saitama, someone who became so strong that no one could face them, and because of that, he suffered from boredom. But eventually, he came to Earth, and found someone who suffered from the same kind of boredom. Boros managed to finally reach his goal of finding an opponent who can match him, although in the end he realized he never had a chance, but unfortunately for Saitama, he was still unable to truly have a good fight, to truly use his strength to the fullest. Honestly, I doubt Saitama is even more than a thousand, maybe not even a hundred times stronger than Boros.

Even with this new feat, I'd wager that ONE and Murata view Boros as capable of beating Orochi even without Meteoric Burst.
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It's all thanks because of his regeneration without that he'd ended the same, like the other's. Get one shootted in instant. boros couldn't even tank his normal punch without losing some part of his body his regeneration is a big factor here without that the fight won't even last for 5 seconds
 
Worthless said:
It's all thanks because of his regeneration without that he'd ended the same, like the other's. Get one shootted in instant. boros couldn't even tank his normal punch without losing some part of his body his regeneration is a big factor here without that the fight won't even last for 5 seconds
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Not really? There was only one time he used his regen to save his ass, and that was when Saitama splattered him when Boros was in MB, and that was near the end of the fight
 
Also those were consecutive normal punches, not just one. Not to say that one normal punch wouldn’t have caused Boros a lot of damage, but still.
 
LordTracer said:
Also those were consecutive normal punches, not just one. Not to say that one normal punch wouldn’t have caused Boros a lot of damage, but still.
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Right. We already saw what the difference between them was when Saitama punched MB Boros and sent him flying and spitting up blood, but not getting splattered and him recovering relatively quickly. Then the Consecutive Normal Punches came out and Splattered him.
 
Worthless said:
It's all thanks because of his regeneration without that he'd ended the same, like the other's. Get one shootted in instant. boros couldn't even tank his normal punch without losing some part of his body his regeneration is a big factor here without that the fight won't even last for 5 seconds
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Boros tanked a normal punch with his armor, which was way weaker than his released form. Different punches, different power. A Serious Punch Saitama landed to CSRC and the one against Elder Centipede is a very good example.
 
Emirp sumitpo said:
Not really? There was only one time he used his regen to save his ass, and that was when Saitama splattered him when Boros was in MB, and that was near the end of the fight
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After he clash hand with Saitama he lost an arm because of it and that's just a normal punch of saitama. Saitama did nothing there in offense all he did was block via his palm and hand and take all shit's from boros thing's to probably feel something from it. His very first offensive attack destroy boros arm.

And that armor is something special the fact it can seal his immeasurable strength
 
Worthless said:
After he clash hand with Saitama he lost an arm because of it and that's just a normal punch of saitama. Saitama did nothing there in offense all he did was block via his palm and hand and take all shit's from boros thing's to probably feel something from it. His very first offensive attack destroy boros arm.
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And? It didn't affect him at all like you're trying to make it out to be, nor did he even get one shot
Worthless said:
And that armor is something special the fact it can seal his immeasurable strength
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The armor's only stated purpose is lower his power... Not anything else.
 
Emirp sumitpo said:
And? It didn't affect him at all like you're trying to make it out to be, nor did he even get one shot
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It does affect him he's calm cause
knows he could just regrow it again in an instant. Point is if he hit him in a dangerous spot like his head or heart he'd ended up dying with shame, imagine traveling for over decades just to be one shotted by a bald guy lol. And there's this chapter him saying that there's really no such a thing that could tank his normal punches
Emirp sumitpo said:
The armor's only stated purpose is lower his power... Not anything else.
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Yes by restraining his strength/energy via it with that amount of power he has that armor shouldn't be able to take it's power.
 
Anyway if tier 5 gets accepted. Shouldn't it's time to take Pyskos Becoming the earth itself overtime, seriously? I mean y'all literally acting the same way as tatsu after hearing that lol. If it doesn't scale to her either durability nor AP It should be to her range, planetary in range. And will eventually become 5-B in large size
 
Worthless said:
Anyway if tier 5 gets accepted. Shouldn't it's time to take Pyskos Becoming the earth itself overtime, seriously? I mean y'all literally acting the same way as tatsu after hearing that lol. If it doesn't scale to her either durability nor AP It should be to her range, planetary in range. And will eventually become 5-B in large size
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It should definitely scale to her AP when she gets that big. If size wasn't relevant to the fusion, Psykosjet would have been just as strong as the fusion at it's peak. But we know that's not the case. Likewise, if the fusion were several thousand times larger it would be several thousand times stronger.
 
Worthless said:
It does affect him he's calm cause
knows he could just regrow it again in an instant. Point is if he hit him in a dangerous spot like his head or heart he'd ended up dying with shame
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No? We see him get blown apart later on and he regenerates just fine lmao
 
Just realized that with the new Low 5-B upgrade OPM characters just surpassed Naruto god tiers in raw combat applicable AP.
 
Emirp sumitpo said:
That seems weirdly low, considering all the other calcs received High 6-A.
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Its not low actually.

The reason the Moon Jump is High 6-A is because of KE. Saitama pulled millions of tons of rock with him at MHS+ speeds, and that's what pushes the result to High 6-A.

The craters themselves are only going to get you some degree of 6-B or 6-A.
 
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Nehz_XZX said:
Weren't they gifted more power through God though? If I'm not wrong, Orochi believed that he could take revenge on Saitama with the power he gained through the fusion and the boost from God.
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Of course fusing made an even stronger being than Orochi from just absorbing monsters after Saitama. But that doesn't automatically mean they surpassed the power of Orochi pre-Saitama.

Not sure, depends on the exact translation, from Chapter 128 right? Because another version I saw had Psykos saying "With this, I can win against Tornado" followed by Orochi speaking (shown by separate font) with her "The baldy who tore me to pieces is next... I will find him, and turn him into a live sacrifice for my resurrection...!!" Which isn't clear enough, since Psykos obviously is surprised by that amount of power, but doesn't show Orochi being surprised at that amount of power. Yes, basic DBZ logic would suggest the fusion is stronger (that previous weakening doesn't affect it), but it's not definitively proven.

Then again, technically even Orochi isn't that powerful on his own, he can only absorb and refire that much energy, he can't actually produce that much on his own. So the fusion has more energy than Orochi without absorbtion I guess? (Really tired of all the overuse of AP = Durability for both Orochi and the fusion, does anyone really believe Genos can tank a blast from his 10 second mode? Of course not.)
 
Epiccheev said:
Yeah, it would be underwhelming if psykorochi + God were weaker than the original Orochi form. But with his new feat being massively above anything else in the series including his later feats as psykorochi is kinda...ugh
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Technically, Orochi himself couldn't produce that energy on his own, so without energy absorbtion he has less energy? So Orochi has less attack power, but can have higher attack power through absorption? Fusion could probably absorb energy too, but was too far from the mantle/too busy fighting Tornado to do so.
 
Scumerage said:
Technically, Orochi himself couldn't produce that energy on his own, so without energy absorbtion he has less energy? So Orochi has less attack power, but can have higher attack power through absorption? Fusion could probably absorb energy too, but was too far from the mantle/too busy fighting Tornado to do so.
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True. Saitama gave Orochi the time he needed to suck up the energy. If Tatsumaki let Psykorochi charge up an attack for 5-10 seconds, why couldn't Psykorochi replicate this feat on an equal or greater scale? Thing is Tatsumaki targeted the roots and kept the fight moving, so there was no time for a super-charged attack like this.
 
Still, even if the fusion could theoretically replicate/surpass it.... it didn't. So guess at this point Orochi < fusion < Orochi+core absorption.
 
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