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I could try, but I'm pretty sure someone has done it before.
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STRONGEST One-Punch Man Discussion Thread!
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Full Calc?
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I used the height in his page which is 1km. I then calculated the height and width of the bigger circle and smaller circle. I got around 714 meters for the lower circle, and around 294 meters for the smaller circle. I then used this website to see how much that would weigh. Then I used the GPE formula. 1000 * 9.81 * 91751761689. That comes out to 9.0008478 × 10^14 joules. 9.0008478 × 10^14 = 215.12 kilotons.
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Can someone remind me, was it said that current Genos’ AP is greater than his durability, or did he just say that his current build is unbalanced?
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I think it was unbalanced. Dr Kuseno was concerned how current Genos focuses mostly on offensive capabilities like 10 sec mode and little defensive capabilities
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So could the argument be made that his AP should scale above his dura because of him focusing on offense?
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I guess so, but I guess in a way, it could interpreted as capabilities being techniques rather than actual physicals. I'll recheck the manga
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So this is the original scan:
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So, at least to me, it seems like Kuseno is saying that the entire build is based on offense > defense, so Genos has to regulate his power to make sure he doesn’t destroy himself.
So logically, his AP should be ‘7-B, possibly 7-A’ as well as his durability, cause he clearly isn’t a brick wall and has to keep his AP at a level so he doesn’t damage himself
So logically, his AP should be ‘7-B, possibly 7-A’ as well as his durability, cause he clearly isn’t a brick wall and has to keep his AP at a level so he doesn’t damage himself
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Just throwing it here again: are there things that need changes that don't include anything major? I plan to place it in the CRT
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What do you currently plan to put in the CRT?
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Some upgrades and downgrades. Some scaling revisions. As well as Garou's clean up profile. As well as adding minor things and some clean up overall. I'm done with Garou's clean up profile btw: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User:Emirp_sumitpo/sandbox?useskin=oasis
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Thoughts on it?
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Looks good to me. Nice work.
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I'm sorta neutral towards this. I guess it sorta makes sense considering Garou has reactive evolution, and he simply became stronger to the point a weakened Garou could fight Genos who is on par with TTM
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Also, the Water Stream Rock Smashing Fist probably isn't above his normal striking strength. He can just deflect stronger attacks due to his skill.
Furthermore, context actually suggests Metal Bat already had broken bones and Garou was just using them to get an advantage.
I think we should remove this, by the way, it's just Garou boasting about his own strength. He's probably Dragon level just to be capable of decapitating Royal Ripper, let alone defeating Darkshine, but that scan isn't anything substantial.
Furthermore, context actually suggests Metal Bat already had broken bones and Garou was just using them to get an advantage.
I think we should remove this, by the way, it's just Garou boasting about his own strength. He's probably Dragon level just to be capable of decapitating Royal Ripper, let alone defeating Darkshine, but that scan isn't anything substantial.
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Tanktop Master was indeed stronger than Garou at that point. TTM only mentioned that techniques and skills are the factors Garou stomped him, not physical strength. You can be weaker than someone but stomp them with your far superior hand-to-hand skills. He also targeted his vital points btw.
Garou's Reactive Evolution (Physical stats specifically, not taking skills into account) barely worked, if not at all, when he was a human. There was no way he could become strong enough to beat TTM with only brute strength at that point, he had to rely on his skills and WSRSF. There was no context that he became stronger during his fight with TTM.
Apparently, there was a consensus that WSRSF should get a '''higher''' rating. But I guess you have a point.
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I can't see the scan. Try not to post images with static in their links, they don't work on the forums for some reason
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It’s the scan where Garou says he’s Dragon level.
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I mean, reactive evolution is the only way to explain how he could fight someone like Genos, who was on par with TTM, and even tear off his arm with brute force
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Yeah they do
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There's really nothing to suggest he's stronger in the first place, though. Garou just stopped holding back, and inflicted a lot of damage with one blow.
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Also Garou was harmed by Royal Ripper when he killed him, so he's definitely not threat level dragon at the time
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When you say "stopping holding back", you mean "using WSRSF" right? That's one of the reasons we said higher with WSRSF, Garou wasn't doing anything notable to TTM without WSRSF>
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@Ourosboros Look at the edit.
@Emirp I'd say Garou has weakness to sharp objects. He was stabbed through the hand by Spring Mustachio and damaged by Golden Ball.
@Emirp I'd say Garou has weakness to sharp objects. He was stabbed through the hand by Spring Mustachio and damaged by Golden Ball.
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Only thing i feel like might be needed is more examples of his attack reflection, as it's his bread and butter and because the Tantktop master scan makes it seem like it works similar to a regular boxing counter.
Stuff like him deflecting Royal riper's blades into bug god ( can deflect bladed attacks ), deflecting Metal bat's tornado attack or Orochi's tendrils ( deflecting multiple blows capable of gravely injuring him at a fast pace/ omnidirectionally in Orochi's case), deflecting Death gatling's death shower (precision against multiple piercing small targets.)
That sort of stuff.
Stuff like him deflecting Royal riper's blades into bug god ( can deflect bladed attacks ), deflecting Metal bat's tornado attack or Orochi's tendrils ( deflecting multiple blows capable of gravely injuring him at a fast pace/ omnidirectionally in Orochi's case), deflecting Death gatling's death shower (precision against multiple piercing small targets.)
That sort of stuff.
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For those of you who haven't seen this omni-man vs the s-class video. Animation style is rough, but it's got heart- true to webcomic style!
That was with WSRSF though
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Yet he goes from not harming TTM to harming him the first strike he uses from WSRSF, do we have any evidence he was holding back and the difference wasn't due to WSRSF?
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If this is the Amazon Omni Man, I'm pretty sure Flash claps
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On the one hand, Amazon Omni Man probably has FTL travel speed in space, on the other hand, he didn't speedblitz the Immortal who was flying around at Mach 3. I think putting his combat speed in the middle, comparable to the s-class, is a good compromise
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That was the blow of Tanktop Master with 2x strength redirected back at himself. And then he proceeded to land multiple strikes on him while targeting his vital points which was the reason why TTM was losing consciousness pretty quickly. There was no evidence that TTM targeted Garou's vital points. The reason Garou was still standing well can be explained because of his inhuman pain tolerance and stamina.
I think it was considered that that was because Genos' limbs are detachable. Garou tried his best to dodge Genos' casual blasts, and the Spiral Innineration Cannon would have vaporised him if it weren't for EC showing up. Garou held his own against Genos seems like to me that his skills are contributed a lot into that. He wasn't really equal to Genos in terms of raw strength. Also, outlier and PIS, even when weakened, he could hold his own against Bang and Bomb's combined attacks, who both are supposed to be far superior to him at that point.
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He never punched TTM before this. In fact, he one-shot him without using it right after.
Because TTM says he was and we're never led to believe otherwise. Also, he's smiling during the fight (not to mention the entire time after he beats him), and TTM feels that he should eliminate him as quickly as possible despite his apparent weakness. Garou does have a tendency to do this if he needs to study someone's moves.
No it wasn't. It was his own blow, which even that scan shows in the illustration. He's saying that Garou's attacks had double the power (returning something two-fold often does mean with double the power, not outright reflecting something with double the power. See the quote "What you give comes back to you ten-fold").
Tbh, I've always agreed with the detachable limb part, and Garou didn't really damage Genos. Although, I wouldn't say it's PIS because Garou never really injured him, just survived his blows.
There's nothing about him vaporizing them. Genos' claim is that he'll shoot them down.
Garou had a massive strength boost against Bang and Bomb. He was nowhere close to holding his own prior to that, just surviving their attacks.
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