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I heard it's like a Japan exclusive thing? If that's the case, then I'm starting to shiver at the shipping costs lol
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STRONGEST One-Punch Man Discussion Thread!
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BTW, how are we doing the HE thing again? What does everyone think of my proposal?
To summarise, we should just do a "Tier to Tier" using the different crater sizes that HE made, which were like 2 I think
To summarise, we should just do a "Tier to Tier" using the different crater sizes that HE made, which were like 2 I think
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Maybe a Varies, with an Up to for whatever his highest tier with it is.
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That could work.
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Why doesn't flashy have possibly SoL for his speed? It was stated in the databook. You also can't say it's false, because he doesn't have any anti-feats. His speed is close enough to SoL for it not to be a stretch, since he did his Rel+ feat without trying too hard.
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How many times have we gone over why Flashy Flash isn’t SoL in this thread? I feel like it’s been more than five times by now.
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His rel+ feat was him getting serious, although not much to imply he was going all out or anything. I think a possibly SOL is fine, with his current rating as normal.
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Also rel+ is boutta get recalled and downgraded so...
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Although the guide statement definitely can't be viewed as concrete evidence by any means, of course.
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Thats exactly what I'm saying
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If that happens then it's an oof cause FF is definitely supposed to be in that range, but I guess he might just not have enough evidence to put him there.
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We should start making rules for this at this point.
Because a lot of guidebooks statements for heroes are hyperbole, and the main cast don't show much feats that are even close to what the databook describes
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It's mainly due to the redraws having the cave be smaller iirc, which sucks.
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Honestly, making a discussion rule for that doesn’t sound like a bad idea.
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Why tf would Murata even do that? It just makes them weaker and is a change no one really cares about.
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I understand that, but what I'm trying to say is, the points that I've seen to not put possible SoL for Flashy don't really make sense. Just because someone is going serious doesn't mean going all out. Saitama's serious punch isn't his 100%, so why would we put a limit on Flashy when we have something saying he is faster than he has shown. Flashy doesn't have any anti-feats to go against what the databook stated.
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This is also a downgrade to Blast, who we've already seen is far above FF in terms of speed, but I guess that's only gonna be enough to put him at prob MHS+ I'm betting.
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The redraws didn't make the cave smaller, they just made a statement that CE was 50 meters away from a water source when he was many, many floors above the cave's peak.
That statement solidified for me that these numbers are really just arbitrary roundings they make post hoc and not a number they style the panels around, same thing as Beefcake's size. That or Murata forgot to redraw that panel where there's 20+ floors in the hole Brave Giant's overloaded strike made.
That statement solidified for me that these numbers are really just arbitrary roundings they make post hoc and not a number they style the panels around, same thing as Beefcake's size. That or Murata forgot to redraw that panel where there's 20+ floors in the hole Brave Giant's overloaded strike made.
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I dunno, I'm pretty sure it wasn't intentional tho
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That's not the argument that goes against him being SoL. The argument is that said statement comes from a databook that severely hypes up the Heroes mentioned in it, and that a large majority of the other statements for Heroes are all blatant hyperbole.
Does anyone have the image saying he's SoL? Cause iirc it also comes off heavily as intentional hyperbole.
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I've already stated, many of the statements are hyperbole, it's likely flash is as well as he hasn't shown a feat that is close to SOL
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That's why we should look at it case by case. Like I said before, he has nothing that proves it wrong, and his speed is close enough for it not to be considered a huge stretch.
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I'll try find it but the quote was like: "Moving at the speed of light!" Or something like that
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He's getting downgraded tho, he's likely not even gonna be rel+ anymore
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Flash is at 0.55c... what do you mean not close?
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"getting" not "is" have you been reading the messages? FF is GOING to get downgraded, afterwards he prob won't even be sub-rel, I'm guessing.
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Also I think it wa stated by CE that the Monster base was like 50 to 100 meters, and that sounds like bullshit and the visuals seems to contradict that
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Ah, I misread. My bad.
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For real. That tower is for sure not 50-100 meters. Anyone with eyes can see it's way more than that.
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And the thing about looking at it case by case is highly debatable when every other Hero mentioned in the databook has tons of hyperbole statements. The fact that he's a different character and has different statements is irrelevant when all of these claims are coming from an unreliable source.
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It's possible that Murata just wasn't thinking when he wrote that. Idk if it would be possible to argue it as an outlier statement though, regardless of whether or not the statement contradicts the visuals.
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One is the one that wrote that in the manga actually. But yeah, the visuals contradict the statement by a landslide
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I think we should upgrade Zombiemans speed. Since he could react HE balls and saved CE
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Speaking of HE, would he scale to Tatsumaki's MHS+? Like we know Tatsumaki becomes significantly weaker in AP after the Psykorochi thing but does her speed decrease?
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Yeah he did get finesse by Tats
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But yeah I think zombieman's speed should be comparable to Amai masks.
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Nooo. Sweet Mask will blitz Zombieman the same way Sonic blitzed Hammerhead.
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But what us that based on? What feats put him that far above him?
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Sweet Mask could react to Fuhrer Ugly's extreme high-speed movements. The same Fuhrer Ugly that could blitz Child Emperor, who dodged ENW's multiple water bullets at the same time. Zombieman, on the other hand, was casually blitzed by a fodder Demon-level named PureBlood.
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