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Deceived3596
General rule of thumb, never listen to Deceived 😭
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Antvasima said:
Can somebody write an explanation post for what we currently need to evaluate here please? 🙏
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Uh mainly, Garrixian's concern is the dimensional jump. I justified this dimensional jump with the argument of overarching timelines, something that Garrixian confused with the Hypertimeline.

When revising the standards regarding temporal dimensions, Profectus raised the question regarding overarching timelines:
Also, since I don’t believe anyone’s asked you this directly, I might as well pose the question now. Say we have a multiverse encompassed by an overarching timeline. Obviously, this isn’t inherently Low 1-C since the overarching timeline can be a single time dimension servicing all of space-time. Let’s say however, that the lesser timelines are confirmed to harbor their own time dimensions. Would you then consider the overarching timeline to be a higher time dimension, and would you consider it an additional direction? If not, is supporting evidence like the examples you gave needed for specific ratings, or is it merely an alternative form of evidence?
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DT accepted the dimensional jump when it is valid:
Depends on what exactly dimension means in this context. Like, if it's very strictly mathematical to the point that we can conclude that they don't point in the same direction, then it would be fine. However, per default and I suspect in most cases we would find, I would instead assume it means they each have their own flow of time which may change independently of each other.

Good evidence can come in many forms and would need case-by-case evaluation. My examples are just about the only cases I could come up with that would be sufficient.
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To meet the criteria, there is first of all the nature of the stories which wants that they contain the concepts linked to a dimension and thus these concepts are independent of each other. Also each dimension has its temporal axis, supported by this which shows that the temporal dimension is in the mathematical sense like the spatial dimensions.

So with the argument of overarching timelines accepted, what is proposed in the OP will be valid.
Pedonar
Pedonar
GarrixianXD said:
And how does Yggdrasil's time orthologically differ from Worlds?
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They contain microcosms, which already gives them +1. Now the same argument is used because all dimensions have the same functioning (thanks to the stories that guarantee it) and therefore it will also have an orthogonal time (even Yggdrasil which is a Worldview being affected will not affect the world). So there is this showing that throughout the stories, each dimension has its own time axis and with the support of this scan concerning the microcosms, it comes that these axes are in the mathematical sense. In addition I have this scan which although it is at first sight some 'flow of time', it is not the case. The story manipulators directly manipulate the axes. Time can therefore be altered or stopped in a worldview, it does not impact in any way the universe and its other microcosms.
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RoTt35
Hello, if you don't mind, could you check this CRT when you have time? It's about the "new" Deadpool movie with a proposed Low 7-C scaling, thanks in advance
SamanPatou
Hey, I'm reaching out to you for a question, as you are the one (or at least one of the ones) who wrote the Marvel Magic page.
Basically, I'm writing a profile for Alligator Loki (WIP if interested) and at some point he is shown handling magic, with the implication of having learned it from his Earth-616 counterpart, with whom he constantly hangs out.
He does simply two things, in separate issues, which are lifting and throwing some volley balls with telekinesis and imprisoning Jeff the Land Shark in a cubic forcefield.

Now, my first idea was to assign him the "Basic" level, but he doesn't meet the requirement of shooting magic blasts which the page states. On the other hand, he clearly utilizes two precise spells (even if unnamed), but nothing else past them. This would, according to the page, warrant a "Low" tier, but this Loki fails to meet the previos requirement and has not shown any other spell. I'd like your opinion on the matter.
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Btw, I don't know if you've read Unbelievable Gwenpool, but in the third issue Doctor Strange does some really crazy stuff, which I see are missing from either his page or that of Marvel Magic. Probably nothing new (perhaps), but it's still some multiversal causality-information manipulation done with extreme ease (plus time stop and some more, minor stuff)
Eseseso
Eseseso
Thanks for the heads up, I gotta check that out!
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Btw, would you by any chance be interested in joining my discord server for Marvel vs stuff?
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