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Isn't that why Joonghyuk can regress hundreds of times without affecting the higher timeline?
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Omniscient Reader's Viewpoint Verse Creation: The Cosmology Part 2
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It is precisely why.
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Seems reasonable to me.I'll go through each detail one by one:
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Info type 2 for stories seems to be fine. Establishing that different worlds are all conceptually different with their own concepts, discrete from the other, merely based on this context that the concept of taste wasn't specified in a specific dimension, doesn't seem logical to me and leagues below concrete evidence that can prove the proposal. Simply because a world doesn't have a concept, doesn't mean they are conceptually different from every other world. It seems like the concept of time is actually fundamentally different in the Labyrinth of World Lines, which I see is depicted as a different subject than that of stories/dimensions, hence doesn't seem to have a correlation to specific dimensions itself. As for dimensions containing their own space-time axis... I mean, that's fine since they are separate space-time continuums after all, and would be logical for them to dimensionally differ from each other; it's the basis of dimensional scaling and establishing a multiverse of space-time. Stories being bound by the concept of space-time is also fine. I won't be certain on canonicity, but considering there ain't any objectification on that part over the past 3 months, I suppose it could be fine, though I'm open to arguments against it.
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Alright. I suppose that each world can work as a 2-B structure as it seems.
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This is probably where many of the issues arise. The microcosms are already established as separate Low 2-C space-time continuums, which would already make sense for them to have their own flow of time individually. Though, I'm struggling to see how much of these correlates with dimensional tiering and how a world with a different time axis can establish a hypertimeline. Yggdrasil would just be 2-C, and the World would just be 2-B unless you prove that their time axes ontologically differentiate from each other, otherwise, I see no reason why hypertimelines can be a plausible argument here. Simply having separate time axes, plus their axes having a different flow, just doesn't seem enough.
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The Worldlines was said to have a different concept of time so I suppose a +1 temporal dimension is fine, and another +1 dimensional via uncountability and incessant perpetual expansion. I'll be fine with 6-D World Lines, though, that +1 dimensional from containing worlds which I explained is more accurately 2-B structures doesn't seem plausible unless you prove that World Line dimensions contain uncountable infinite amounts of worlds or its time axis is ontologically different than that of Worlds, but I don't really see it judging by the evidence shown.
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I don't really see how the Universe is quantitatively superiorly a higher infinity than the Worldlines, merely based on the fact it contains countless worldlines and no before and after. The Universe having "no before and after" doesn't grant an ontologically different time axis from the Worldlines.
As for the rest of the stuff, I won't comment, as it doesn't seem you proposed a rating for them.
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Hmm. 100 posts, most Bumps and 2025 approaching. It's doomed.
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Sorry for the late reply.
What's the evidence for those microcosms having their own time axes again? The best I found is this where it said the flow of time differs. Sorry, I haven't revisited this in quite a while.
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I am also behind since the forum had only just restored; the shut down started while I still had a lot of notifications still pending, and I've been when it finally restored.
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to sum up current situation:Can somebody write an explanation post for what we currently need to evaluate here please?
Garrixian in his initial message agreed with world-line being 6d and was skeptical with the universe being higher dimensionally but in further discussion agreed that it is 7d, currently he and Franz are discussing additional hyper timeline that should add +1D to the universe at least(if Garrixian wants, i can make a comprehensive overview for that argument so he decide once and for all since discussion was not adressing argument as a whole but just parts of it without full picture)
DDM agreed with Garrixian's initial evaluation(that is worlldine 6d and uncertainty of the universe being higher dimensionally than worlldine). i dont know if he saw that Garrixian agreed with 7d universe one message later
all in all: minimum 6d worldline and 7d universe are pretty much agreed, only left is additional hypertimeline argument to adress
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Can somebody write an explanation post for what we currently need to evaluate here please?
Uh mainly, Garrixian's concern is the dimensional jump. I justified this dimensional jump with the argument of overarching timelines, something that Garrixian confused with the Hypertimeline.
When revising the standards regarding temporal dimensions, Profectus raised the question regarding overarching timelines:
DT accepted the dimensional jump when it is valid:
To meet the criteria, there is first of all the nature of the stories which wants that they contain the concepts linked to a dimension and thus these concepts are independent of each other. Also each dimension has its temporal axis, supported by this which shows that the temporal dimension is in the mathematical sense like the spatial dimensions.
So with the argument of overarching timelines accepted, what is proposed in the OP will be valid.
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