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Tatsumi504
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Maou Gakuin no Futekigousha: UES and Scaling (Part 1)

Introduction The purpose of this thread is to handle the part of Maou Gakuin which none of my fellow wankers seem to be interested in... the scaling. I plan to later revise the current profiles as well lay down the reasoning behind scaling of profiles yet to come. Before jumping into the...
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GarrixianXD
Hey Enryu, after checking contributions I saw you were the creator of the Elysia page. I’m sorry for all the inconvenience I caused; I thought you were on Shiroiyo’s server but turns out you weren’t so I genuinely apologise for destroying your hard work.
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Enryu_The_Red_Tower
Don't worry, I accept your apologies, I know you are being sincere due to the time we discussed in the HSR main thread, since as a I said previously, I had a blog of Elysia's profile as a back-up if something went wrong, but I must be honest in saying that you faltered a lot this time, now always when Avengers and Solacis make a CRT and you disagree with them, they will get aggressive (they always become like that if someone disagree with them) and appeal to the time you tried to nuke the entire HI3rd verse on this site to undermine your arguments and authority, be just more careful and don't let them make you mad as I let them do to me
GarrixianXD
GarrixianXD
I promise I won't lose my ground. Thank you~ 🫂
BestMGQScalerEver
I was wondering if you could maybe share this on the DB thread in a single post but if you don't believe it's that relevant then it's fine since Omega did briefly touch upon it. Just a little more context and a little more specific.

omegabronic said:
a real physicist talking about the theory irl matters for the logic in verse because? outside the fact that Whis, Gowasu and the entire Black arc contradicts this
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So basically the Futamase stuff shouldn't be used since he's just an actual real life scientist brought on to explain our real world theories of physics in a fun way while only using similar dragon ball examples to be relevant. Also it was discussed in this thread that it shouldn't be used at all due to him not being an actual authority on dragon ball.
Suigetsuhyugs
It's a staff thread so I'm not commenting but I agree with a lot that you said in your thread (Although it become a black clover downgrade thread)
I think this wiki gives too much credit to calcs over author statements after all it's highly dubious that the author is actually pixel scaling the images in order to give us proper feats, even more with calculations that are way too specific and require some science degree to properly understand when a lot of authors might not even have finished high school.
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NikHelton
Hello

I'll ask if users can leave opinions on this without turning the thread into chaos.

I specifically indicated that I might be wrong and gave examples, but it seems that BC supporters took this as an attack on their verse.

I'm glad you agree. I like the concept of vsb calculations, but due to the frequent inflated results in the Russian community, this site is not taken seriously
Suigetsuhyugs
Suigetsuhyugs
This wiki has a lot of messy scalings on each verse, if it makes you feel better I read the manga of black clover and I actually agree that tier 5 is way to much.
Other problems that I think are relevant.

  • The "survived one punch", characters scaling because they managed to survive a punch from x character with a tier much above what that character shown even when sometimes the author and the whole narrative shows that the character is being stomped and is massively inferior to the other. Because of that a lot of versus have characters scaling with the same value despite being multiple layers of "one shot" between them.
  • On the other hand we have verses with thousands of statements like "capable of destroying the world" and because 0 calcs then no one reaches tier 5.
  • There are calcs to feats like destroying a mountain who can reach much higher levels because the mountain seems to be very big. The author himself often can consider things like vaporizing and just fragmentation on the same level because both show destruction of X object and because of that you will get contradictions later because a feat that would require lower levels of destruction is impossible.
I'm more regular on Marvel which is a completely different case because of the whole different authors but even in there the scalings go too far with hundreds of characters scaling to a single feat and then you have the "scaling with b that is scaling with c that is scaling with d...".

In the end it's a thread that is necessary but likely will have really bad reception by most because it's hard to make it better.
NikHelton
NikHelton
Scalings in comics are pure chaos. We have Spider-Man catching Quicksilver and Spider-Man getting shot by the Punisher at the same time.

The MCU is even more crazy. I was fine when they were 7-B and High 7-A, but when they're all 6-B and 5-A now, it doesn't look natural.

Especially the reaction and speed of characters, where mhs+ is even for characters who can be shot with a bullet
Viott
Hello, how can I calculate this as ap, if you have an idea can you please answer?

Ugarik
Ugarik
I don't think this can be calculated
LuffyRuffy46307
Please allow me to comment on this.
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Dragon Ball's Main Cannon Timeline number downgrade(permission from Damage3245)

got permission from @Damage3245 to create this thread, doing in a staff thread given the unbelievable amount of bloat created in past threads about the topic when made in normal CRTs This thread's objective is to cover up some misconceptions about the Dragon Ball cosmology we currently have...
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Sepe_ferdinan
Hi mister, I have a simple question, Do you have a comunity on the WhatsApp platform? I'v just ask
Mr. Bambu
Mr. Bambu
I've never used WhatsApp before, no. The only external "community" I run, if it can be called that, is a Discord server.
Shiraito983
hello could you evaluate this?

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Villainess level 99 Tier CRT|possible Low 1-C upgrade

Intro This is Yumiella Dolkness Tier Upgrades Credits to this page for giving some information, actually I made mine too before but I'm too dense to notice it, same justification will be used here The Cosmology Note: I will not include the vague H 1-B right now so I hope I won't see it here...
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SweetDao
Hello Mr. Bambu, I have a question.

Imagine a character having a knife with the capacity of traveling to the past when thrown (not by sheer speed, but simply because the weapon has that ability) to kill the target's past self. Is it warranted to give an "immeasurable" thanks to the knife for this character ? Wouldn't it be more logical for it to merely be a hax ?
Yoazkk6188
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MCU multiverse upgrade characterse Tier2: Characters or objects that can significantly affect,[1] create and/or destroy small multiverses

Loki's profile is now only tier 6-B, is that correct? We all know that in loki season 2, loki has become the god of story or the controller of the timeline. Now he is the one who covers the fate of everyone in every multiverse of the marvel universe. Every life in every multiverse is under...
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Admin, please, I would like you to reconsider whether Scarlet Witch should have a tier higher than tier6 or not. Because she is the “great threat of all the multiverse” by: official timeline, I think she should at least or possibly be at the tier3 ( with magic ) because she has the potential to make an infinite number of objects in 3D, for the reason that the website says she can't because she uses hax, I would like to comment that she doesn't use hax. We look at the reality from The movie where the darkhold was destroyed was her power that burned it down, and on the official website it was officially confirmed that "Wanda destroyed darkhold all universe" has a CRT, a clear confirmation.
Rafi_BZ
hi, can u give u input here?
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King Proposal gets Low 2-C level.

Before that, I would like to apologize if there are some mistakes, because my English is quite bad. In the King Proposal verse, the substantiation technique itself has a superior-inferior system. The higher the number of this technique, the greater the energy output released. Feat: Future...
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Rafi_BZ
can u check this
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King Proposal gets Low 2-C level.

Before that, I would like to apologize if there are some mistakes, because my English is quite bad. In the King Proposal verse, the substantiation technique itself has a superior-inferior system. The higher the number of this technique, the greater the energy output released. Feat: Future...
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