- 4,825
- 2,461
After making a match with a character from Bleach, I've seen that no one knows for sure, most coming with different scaling. As the Soul Potency it's a really important power in Bleach, be it for resistance or attacking.
Every time a match it's made there it's thrown around "Soul Crush / Spiritual Pressure" with a different "potency" aka number. It's annoying to see every time different scaling, not only for me but also for other people that want or will decide to debate a fight. I don't want this to be a "civil war" thread but one where we can talk hopefully without bitting someone's head off.
I have as a goal that from this thread to result in a blog for Bleach where we would have scaling for the Soul Potency for its different characters and not what we have now "guessing the game (numbers)".
Scaling from what I've seen: Scaling from Tatsuki, Chad, and Inoue that resisted to Yammy absorption which could Soul Rip hundreds of souls. -- This can be seen in episode 113. The problem being that Gonzui (Soul Ripper) that Yammy used it's shown to not be able to absorb if "the target has a bit of spiritual power" (Tatsuki being the case) but it can also be a "lucky strike" like Yammy stated afterwords. This case's more likely that as long as you have "spiritual power", your soul gets resistance but then Ulquiorra stated that just being near Yammy, Tatsuki's soul it's on the verge of breaking.
Above non-existent spiritual power of Tatsuki are the hollows that are sure resistant to Soul Attacks but their potency it's not known. The problem, we don't know if Yammy could replicate the same things for them as he did with humans. The effect is most people think that if Tatsuki "got lucky" and resisted then they scale above Yammy's Gonzui.
Then are the Gillians that are agglomerations of dozens if not hundreds of these hollows. Above them are Adjuchas that have consumed an unknown number of those Gillians and other normal hollows. The problem, it can't be for sure know n if Adjuchas have only consumed just Gillians or if they even consumed one. It can be only a high number of normal hollows.
Then another problem it's that people use Stark to scale to other characters when we don't know for sure if he was stronger or weaker than the other characters at the moment when he passively crushed all those normal hollows or Adjuchas. Another cause it's that we don't know the "time" it took for Stark to kill all of them, all those hundreds to thousands could have just been killed in batches not all at once and over time the "mountains" of bodies appeared as they got killed once the other party entered in his range of spiritual pressure. Effect - people assume all Espada or characters that are comparable to the lower number Espada scales which its wrong as we can't just assume all of them can do the same. We just know that Aizen, Gin, and Tosen resisted to Stark but then we don't know if they could replicate the feat (excluding Aizen, he's the Übermensch). There are more characters that can more than sure replicate it but I only talk about those three.
Then we have the making of Oken which needed the entire population of Karakura Town which it's based on Western Tokyo (Which has a total population of 4,233,493 from 26 Cities, 3 Town, and 1 Village). I don't remember correctly but I'm sure that Aizen killed everyone that entered his range of Soul Crush. He needed the population to create the Key so more than sure he didn't kill all those people. I await more inputs here.
Then we have the problems of Multiplier which I find totally wrong as it's gone from Tatsuki (hundreds resistance - lucky as it was stated by Ulquiorra) to a 33 Billio for Base Stark because this would result in resistance to people on the league of Orihime and Chad or even lower.
One it's being to passively use it and one it's to actively use it where the characters effort themselves.
It's more than sure clear that Tatsuki it's weaker than Hollows which are weaker than Espadas and other characters.
It's stated that the characters at Vice-Captain and above have to restrict their power otherwise they would affect the real world.
There are more feats that I'm sure the more knowledgeable supporters known which may help this scaling work. I can be wrong in what I wrote, I won't ever deny this as I'm not an active member that debate Bleach. I just have my knowledge from anime and manga and that's why I want to create a blog with a scaling that will be added to the Bleach verse page which will help with this problem of Soul Potency.
I repeat again as usually, HST threads result in "civil war", I don't want this to happen here. I want a civilized debate which should be the norm here.
Short Summary
Let's make a Blog with scaling for Soul Crush / Spiritual Pressure for Bleach.
Every time a match it's made there it's thrown around "Soul Crush / Spiritual Pressure" with a different "potency" aka number. It's annoying to see every time different scaling, not only for me but also for other people that want or will decide to debate a fight. I don't want this to be a "civil war" thread but one where we can talk hopefully without bitting someone's head off.
I have as a goal that from this thread to result in a blog for Bleach where we would have scaling for the Soul Potency for its different characters and not what we have now "guessing the game (numbers)".
Scaling from what I've seen: Scaling from Tatsuki, Chad, and Inoue that resisted to Yammy absorption which could Soul Rip hundreds of souls. -- This can be seen in episode 113. The problem being that Gonzui (Soul Ripper) that Yammy used it's shown to not be able to absorb if "the target has a bit of spiritual power" (Tatsuki being the case) but it can also be a "lucky strike" like Yammy stated afterwords. This case's more likely that as long as you have "spiritual power", your soul gets resistance but then Ulquiorra stated that just being near Yammy, Tatsuki's soul it's on the verge of breaking.
Above non-existent spiritual power of Tatsuki are the hollows that are sure resistant to Soul Attacks but their potency it's not known. The problem, we don't know if Yammy could replicate the same things for them as he did with humans. The effect is most people think that if Tatsuki "got lucky" and resisted then they scale above Yammy's Gonzui.
Then are the Gillians that are agglomerations of dozens if not hundreds of these hollows. Above them are Adjuchas that have consumed an unknown number of those Gillians and other normal hollows. The problem, it can't be for sure know n if Adjuchas have only consumed just Gillians or if they even consumed one. It can be only a high number of normal hollows.
Then another problem it's that people use Stark to scale to other characters when we don't know for sure if he was stronger or weaker than the other characters at the moment when he passively crushed all those normal hollows or Adjuchas. Another cause it's that we don't know the "time" it took for Stark to kill all of them, all those hundreds to thousands could have just been killed in batches not all at once and over time the "mountains" of bodies appeared as they got killed once the other party entered in his range of spiritual pressure. Effect - people assume all Espada or characters that are comparable to the lower number Espada scales which its wrong as we can't just assume all of them can do the same. We just know that Aizen, Gin, and Tosen resisted to Stark but then we don't know if they could replicate the feat (excluding Aizen, he's the Übermensch). There are more characters that can more than sure replicate it but I only talk about those three.
Then we have the making of Oken which needed the entire population of Karakura Town which it's based on Western Tokyo (Which has a total population of 4,233,493 from 26 Cities, 3 Town, and 1 Village). I don't remember correctly but I'm sure that Aizen killed everyone that entered his range of Soul Crush. He needed the population to create the Key so more than sure he didn't kill all those people. I await more inputs here.
Then we have the problems of Multiplier which I find totally wrong as it's gone from Tatsuki (hundreds resistance - lucky as it was stated by Ulquiorra) to a 33 Billio for Base Stark because this would result in resistance to people on the league of Orihime and Chad or even lower.
One it's being to passively use it and one it's to actively use it where the characters effort themselves.
It's more than sure clear that Tatsuki it's weaker than Hollows which are weaker than Espadas and other characters.
It's stated that the characters at Vice-Captain and above have to restrict their power otherwise they would affect the real world.
There are more feats that I'm sure the more knowledgeable supporters known which may help this scaling work. I can be wrong in what I wrote, I won't ever deny this as I'm not an active member that debate Bleach. I just have my knowledge from anime and manga and that's why I want to create a blog with a scaling that will be added to the Bleach verse page which will help with this problem of Soul Potency.
I repeat again as usually, HST threads result in "civil war", I don't want this to happen here. I want a civilized debate which should be the norm here.
Short Summary
Let's make a Blog with scaling for Soul Crush / Spiritual Pressure for Bleach.
