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Yhwach fights a Thot

Nothing beyond her tier.

Her strongest points are her passive lust induced through any actions she does, madness inducement through eyes and through a skill.

Curse that can frozen foes in space and only able to move in a area of 10 feets. Their blood, life and everything else will be sucked by a vortex in the sky. Their organs will fail and rot away. It will also affect anyone who has any blood relationship and even if they are creation or have a strong bond with the cursed one.

A ring that will crush the body and soul to nothingness.

A corpse puppet that it's stronger than her in AP but still same tier.

A skill that summons a ghost spirit (invisible even to cultivators) and reflects all attacks back which can't be affected/attacked without some spatial manipulation.

And her soul potency of tens of thousands x several times.
 
"I was pure in the past! I believed that the sky would forever be blue! I believed the dark clouds would only last for a moment! But the truth is, the blue in the sky is also a form of oppression!" - Madam Ji

Even a thot was once a pure lotus.

~~low key bump~~
 
Seeing this is Core key, and FE themselves have a good chunk of soul potency, it should be at least in the millions or more.

And the level below, Foundation Establishment are at least tens of thousands one and on those with Soul manip resistance, so yea.

EDIT : you're asking about their Soul hax potency right?
 
If that's true, then Madam Ji probably just passively crushes him

I don't think anyone from Bleach resisted millions of soul crushing

Although I'm not that knowledgeable in the Verse itself so take my comment(s) with a few grains of salt
 
ZackMoon1234 said:
If that's true, then Madam Ji probably just passively crushes him
I don't think anyone from Bleach resisted millions of soul crushing

Although I'm not that knowledgeable in the Verse itself so take my comment(s) with a few grains of salt
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The top tiers do: SK Yhwach, Ichigo, Aizen, Prime SK.
 
"But do you know what? DO you know..? I got used to this sort of lifestyle. I'm already used to the pleasures of lust. I've changed… I'm no longer me. I'm no longer my past self…" Tears fell out of Madam Ji's eyes.

Bump
 
Then I don't think he's resisting Madam Ji's passive Spiritual Pressure which is at least in the millions or more compared to Yhwach's which is at least in thethousands or more

While Madam Ji probably also resists Yhwach's passive Reiatsu Crush
 
Is annoying since we don't have a clear idea.

Technically, he scales from Tatsuki. Problem is, Tatsuki is so far below Yhwach is hard to put any number. A normal trash hollow should resist better than her as her spiritual abilities are near nonexistent, and above those hollows should be Gillians, which are aglomerations of dozens if not hundreds of these hollows. Then Adjuchas, again above Gillians and having consumed vast amounts of other gillians. We don't know what they were, but Coyote Stark killed hundreds if not thousands of hollows, which were either normal hollows or Adjuchas as they didn't look like Gillians, by just passively existing and not trying to exert his soul crush. Aizen pre-hogyouku is above this.

Perhaps I am just the least knowledgeable one in this area, but is hard to say.
 
What Lancelot said. Tatsuki is already at dozens to hundreds, basic Hollows are far stronger than her, Gillians are a fusion of roughly a hundred basic Hollows, becoming an Adjuchas requires unique Gillian to eat entire herds which consist of hundreds of Gillian which add their power to whoever is nomming on them. For context, Aaroniero who is a Gillian level Arrancar, not even Adjuchas like everyone else bar the top 4, has eaten at least 33,000 Hollows and explicitly adds their reiatsu, skills and abilities inculding soul resistance to his own rather than the portion of reiatsu consuming souls normally gets them. This makes his evolution far faster than normal but was still unable to evolve to Adjuchas with that amount.

The Hollows Starrk passively killed by the mountains were above the sands of Hueco Mundo which is populated by absolutely miniscule basic Hollows or Adjuchas so they would be Adjuchas based on their size.

  • According to Shawlong, Grimmjow's Fraccion had eaten thousands of Hollows during their time as Adjuchas and could not even notice a change in his power after consuming 2000 more. Shawlong says Hollows but as he is counting since becoming an Adjuchas and the fact that you need to eat Hollows of the same type to prevent regression, these have to be Adjuchas.
  • Note this includes Di Roy who is the most trash Adjuchas in existence (that we see at least) that is no diffed by a lieutenant level is already thousands of times beyond Hollows > Tatsuki > 100s of souls.
  • Other Adjuchas are proven to be superior to him by direct comparison with Rukia who is having problems with them and needs help from a guy who is stronger than her.
These are the guys Starrk passively murders in the hundreds to thousands even after splitting his soul.

Base Yhwach > Bankai Yama >>> Shikai Yama > base Aizen >> Los Lobos Starrk >>> base Starrk >>> thousands of Adjuchas >>> Adjuchas >>> 33,000 Gillian >>> Gillian >= 100 Hollows >>> Hollow >>> Tatsuki = 100 of souls.

  • 100 ├ù 100 = 10,000
  • 10,000 ├ù 33,000 = 330,000,000
  • 100 ├ù 330,000,000 = 33,000,000,000
Would you look at that low ball? To explain, I lowballed basic Hollows to Tatsuki's resistance, multiplied that by the rough number of Hollows in a basic Gillian, multiplied by Aaroniero's nom count which have to be at least Gillian and finally lowballed Starrk's passive kill count in one scene to 100 and ignored the fact that they were Adjuchas who would be stronger than Aaro's number. And this is just a nerfed Starrk with a massive lowball.

Imagine thinking any relevant Bleach character was ever gonna get soul haxxed by 3d soul manip. There is probably something out there that someone is gonna link now.
 
And thus I will never make a match between Bleach and Nocturne lol at that, I don't even make matches. Thanks for the heads up.
 
I mean Its not a low number, it's not even a big one, it's collosal one 33 Billions in Bleach.
 
Because I never bothered to math out the lowball before. Plus most verses rarely ever have the soul hax/resist to get past the unquantifiably and absurdly above hundreds of souls god tiers that get spammed. And math. Bleach fandom doesn't bother with math unless it is for calcing Ulq feats ovo.
 
Yes but the problem is in trying to scale that soul to characters that apparently resist it while definitely not having a sol on par with 33 billion souls, unless you are saying that is only the god tiers soul resistance in which ase it just barely owrks out I guess?
 
Uh ... no. This is base Starrk's passive reiatsu crush which, under no circumstances, can be restricted by himself and specifically kills them, nit even incap. God tiers are unquantifiably and absurdly beyond this.
 
AnonymousBlank said:
Uh ... no. This is base Starrk's passive reiatsu crush which, under no circumstances, can be restricted by himself and specifically kills them, nit even incap. God tiers are unquantifiably and absurdly beyond this.
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I mean that kinda makes it even more unlikely, sorry but this is all scaling from 100 souls, to somehow decide that starrk's passive reiatsu crush is 33 billion from that and then to say that the Gos tiers are absurdly above that and that people on the level of Chad and Orihime can resist that despite not even being close in number to even Starrk's makes it massively unlikely. In other words I guess I went from half and half to disagreeing completely.
 
Not entirely sure how much to use direct numbers and calculations like that, but yes. the ascending scale is a little ridiculous.

Granted, Grimmjow's fraction does speculate Vasto Lord-ness is something you are inherently born with, a special quality not everyone has, so is possible they would never grow no matter how many they ate, but that's a complete shot in the dark and nothing more than speculation. Anyway, I really don't see her soul stuff affecting him.

So we are left with passive lust by her every action, and madness by sight and a skill. Some curse thingy that freezes you in space, sucks life and blood by a vortex in the air, and rots body and organs. Corpse pupper with higher AP. Ghost invisible even to cultivators with ESP that reflects attacks and can only be hurt/defeated through some space control shit...

But if we accept these numbers for yhwach, he's just soul crushing.
 
The fact is the best soul manip Bleach has shown is in the hundreds by number 10 guy who for some reason his name escapes me. And that was not even close to passive. Starrk's was passive but we did not know how many he could kill at a time all we saw were small piles of bodies. And Starrk was in a class of his own.

Even Aizen did not show that much. After that we never really saw it and people much weaker were consistently next to stronger people with no showing of RC.
 
Uh... the feat is hundreds, but he was just eating randomly and not even trying, just getting people out of the way since they were "staring" at him weirdly, ending up sucking people hundreds of meters away without thinking. This doesn't change the fact Tatsuki resists, and the resistance like with everything else would increase for the stronger characters. The mere fact the stronger characters exert more Reiatsu, which cases the crush, and resist that of others, is pretty clear cut telling you these values increase.

And I mean, you are entirely free to assume he stood in one place while a bunch of hollows died one by one near him. I am entirely free to think that is dumb since the implication is that they were in a group, unless wind magically piled them up into 3 mini mounds.
 
Yeah I did not say anything about casual my point is, that is literally the best soul feat they have shown, which is a fact.

And I never said it was one by one, I know it was in groups it still was not has much as what number 10 did. The difference is you cant scale them because 1 is passive and 1 was an active ffort no matter how much you try to make it casual you dont know how casual.

And honestly passively killing people would not have them somehow make a mound unless they were literally stand on top of each other for some reason.
 
we know that yammy's passive reiatsu is stronger than his soul suck , satsuki resisted the soul suck but her soul couldn't bear yammy's casual presence .
 
Naeblis495 said:
we know that yammy's passive reiatsu is stronger than his soul suck , satsuki resisted the soul suck but her soul couldn't bear yammy's casual presence .
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Yeah after being exposed to it for a long time, its like a stamina thing rather than a potency thing.
 
And it being the best is irrelevant to the fact we know their resistances scale up, so there's no real problem here that I can perceive. This just feels like an argument from incredulity.

You actually can. No matter the nature of it, Tatsuki resisted. Hollows are stronger. You just then see how higher level hollows compare to trash. The passivity or casuality of it is pretty unimportant except to remind this is a lowball.

True, but the fact they came in groups makes much more sense than them approaching a few at a time and dying in the same pile. Occam's razors, no reason to assume they weren't affected all at once when it would require way more assumptions.
 
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