Top 5 Nasuverse Strongest Characters for Every Class/Type/Category

Beast_Zero_Gudako · Nov 28, 2019

Got this idea from that other thread. And I am also curious myself. Rules are simple, nominated a character (any versions of them) from the entire Nasuverse to fill the spot of each categories. If possible, make a vs thread between contestants.

Now discuss.

Saber:

1. Nero Claudius

2. Miyamoto Musashi

3. Ryougi Shiki

4. Arthur Pendrago

5. Attila de Hu

Archer:

1. Gilgamesh

2. Nameless

3.

4.

5.

Lancer:

1. Enkidu

2.

3.

4.

5.

Rider:

1. Quetzalcoatl

2.

3.

4.

5.

Caster:

1. King Solomo

2.

3.

4.

5.

Assassi:

1. "The Old Man of the Mountain"

2.

3.

4.

5.

Berserker:

1. Arjuna Alter

2.

3.

4.

5.

Ruler:

1.

2.

3.

4.

5.

Avenger:

1. Edmond Dantes, Space Ishtar, Demon King Nobunaga

2.

3.

4.

5.

Alter Ego:

1.

2.

3.

4.

5.

Moon Cancer:

1. BB (Fate/Extra CCC)

2.

3.

4.

Foreigner:

1.

2.

3.

Shielder:

1.

2.

Saver:

1. Shakyamuni

Counter Guardia:

1.

2.

3.

4.

5.

Beast:

1. Goetia

2.

3.

4.

5.

Type:

1.

2.

3.

4.

5.

Dead Apostle:

1.

2.

3.

4.

5.

Masters of Holy Grail War:

1. Shirou Emiya

2.

3.

4.

5.

Magus/Executioner:

1.

2.

3.

4.

5.

Makkurona · Nov 28, 2019

Moon Cancer taken all by BB lol

Beast_Zero_Gudako · Nov 28, 2019

Makkurona said:
Moon Cancer taken all by BB lol

~~How cruel of you forgetting Ganesha~~

Makkurona · Nov 28, 2019

Who? Jk. But BB takes all the top positions anyway

Beast_Zero_Gudako · Nov 28, 2019

Well, yeah. She does. I made 4 spots because tecnically BB has 3 version of her, the summer one isn't available right now. Last spot belongs to Ganesha.

Also, damn I forgot Saver.

Makkurona · Nov 28, 2019

There is only one Saver, so who cares right

Beast_Zero_Gudako · Nov 28, 2019

Yeah.

Anyway, got another candidates for the other spots?

00potato · Nov 28, 2019

Paul Bunyan for all classes

Makkurona · Nov 28, 2019

Alter Ego

1. Kazuradrop (has the power of other Sakura Five and 7/8 of BB)

2.Kingprotea (Even BB and Kiara at their full power can't do much against her)

3. Okitan (EE sword)/Meltryllis (2-A all absorption)

4. Kiara Sessyoin (Still has considerable hax though severely weakened)

5. Passionlip (2-A crush hax)

Diinou_HotHead · Nov 28, 2019

I'll just list candidates for Saber class: Arthur (conditionally, when Exc's seals are all lifted), Sigurd, Servant Void Shiki, Musashi, and if buffs aren't banned, Nero + the 2-A buffs for 1st. Maybe Yagyu might take a spot too.

ThisIsMySwagPack · Nov 28, 2019

Playable servants should fill the top spots of their classes (Nameless, Nero and Tamamo).

00potato · Nov 28, 2019

King Hassan should likely top the Assasin list

AnonymousBlank · Nov 28, 2019

^No way Gramps isn't number 1. After that though ...... who we got for the other 4 cuz I can only think of Zealot. And are basing them on their combat ability, how well they perform their classes function etc etc.

Also Solomon and Merlin for Caster, Gil for Archer and Caster, Karna and Shishou will take two of the Lancer spots for sure,Enkidu should be there too, Ozy for Rider 1 rn (mind is blank on Riders that beat him), Altjuna and Calter for Berserkers.

I'll think of more later.

Beast_Zero_Gudako · Nov 28, 2019

ThisIsMySwagPack said:
Playable servants should fill the top spots of their classes (Nameless, Nero and Tamamo).

Nameless above Gilgamesh? I knew Gil doesn't actually have a Class in CCC. But we could treat him as Archer.

Beast_Zero_Gudako · Nov 28, 2019

Makkurona said:
Alter Ego
1. Kazuradrop (has the power of other Sakura Five and 7/8 of BB)

2.Kingprotea (Even BB and Kiara at their full power can't do much against her)

3. Okitan (EE sword)/Meltryllis (2-A all absorption)

4. Kiara Sessyoin (Still has considerable hax though severely weakened)

5. Passionlip (2-A crush hax)

Also, anyone against this?

ThisIsMySwagPack · Nov 28, 2019

If you want to treat Gilgamesh as archer then put him at number 1.

Beast_Zero_Gudako · Nov 28, 2019

Alright, I'm gonna put Gil and Nameless in the Archer spot.

Also, what makes Tamamo above living Solomon?

ShadowWhoWalks · Nov 29, 2019

I'll list some candidates, might nominate later.

Saber: Arturia, Proto Arthur, Lancelot, Siegfried, Richard, Rama, Void Shiki, Musashi

Archer: Gilgamesh, Heracles, Arjuna, Arash, Rama, Alcides, Ishtar, Fujino

Lancer: Karna, Enkidu, Scathach, Artoria, Romulus, Cu

Rider: Ozymandias, Achilles, Quetzalcoatl, Ivan, Medusa

Caster: Solomon, Merlin, Tamamo, Tesla, Gilgamesh, Edison, Nursery Rhyme, Fran├ºois Prelati

Assassin: King Hassan, Li Shuwen, Zealot, True Assassin (S/F), Shiki, Ibaraki Douji

Berserker: Enkidu, Raikou, Vlad, Heracles

Ruler: Karl der Grobe, Jeanne, Amakusa Shirou

Avenger: Edmund Dante, Cu Alter

Foreigner: Abigail Williams

Alter Ego: Kiara

Shielder: Galahad

Dead Apostle: Sion, Ancestors like Arcueid and Zelretch

Masters: Illya, Shirou, Kotomine Shirou, Medea, Sieg, Francesca Prelati, Manaka

Magus/Executioner: Zelretch, Lorelei, Touko, Aoko, The Burial Agency's members, Fillia

PlsHelpmeIneedIt · Dec 1, 2019

arjuna alter for berserker and QSH for ruler?

LSirLancelotDuLacl · Dec 10, 2019

wait what is nero even doing there?

Diinou_HotHead · Dec 10, 2019

LSirLancelotDuLacl · Dec 10, 2019

Already my distaste is immeasurable and my day is ruined.

Makkurona · Dec 10, 2019

Nero 2-A was situational only at that time (And let's just be honest, she got the most bs buffs in the story so she can show face than other playables including in Extella). Base Nero is weak

LSirLancelotDuLacl · Dec 10, 2019

Not sure I can even, or would try to, call Saber Venus a Saber at all. By that point we are bending what is possible for a Servant in a world with malleable rules. Should just put all the people with NPs on the highest tier for each.

Makkurona · Dec 10, 2019

That is like what a Mary Sue does lol

LSirLancelotDuLacl · Dec 10, 2019

Anyway, put Dantes for 1st in Avengers and Space Ishtar for 2nd place.

As far as it goes for me, Goetia is number 1 in the Beast area. But if people decide Mind Hax is way worse, Kiara claims the spot way easier.

For Magus Alba, Touko and Aoko should take the top spots. Aoko would take first place. Though I feel sad Touko's page is so sparse... if only I could read her fight with Aoko better or get her appeareance in Case Files.

As for Masters, Shirou would be undisputed 1st place with Sieg as a second and Rin on third. Will asy more later.

Makkurona · Dec 10, 2019

Isn't Kama's mind hax worse though? Since it amps other's desires to the max, while Kiara needs others to look at her first. And dammit, who said Kama is weaker than Kiara. They are equal at best

LSirLancelotDuLacl · Dec 10, 2019

Unless I forgot something, Kiara treats Kama more like a torn at her side than anyone important. You also don't have to see Kiara, just perceive her with any of the five sensesno matter the medium. Hear her? Your mind hax resistance gets tested. Smell her? It gets tested. Touch her? It gets tested. See her from god knows how far away through some power? It gets tested.

Unless you think her other powers should afford her a spot above her.

Also, Arjuna for 1st spot in Berserker.

Makkurona · Dec 10, 2019

Because both are trying to ignore each other as much as possible since they are literally like magnets rejecting each other or else they will clash every time they meet (Kama too do the same to Kiara). And what i meant by seeing is has to be in range to smell, hear, or see her, while Kama can do it from far range with subtler means. Well, Kama/Mara has wider variety of abilities too than Kiara. But still, they should be equal in power levels since they are halves of one.

For Arjuna, agreeable

Beast_Zero_Gudako · Dec 10, 2019

How is Edmond and S.Ishtar beating Nobunaga? Ain't the latter is more vulnerable to her?

AnonymousBlank · Dec 10, 2019

I mean Dantes has the lol blitz. And wouldn't her beating S Ishtar purely be due to compatability against Divinity rather than Nobu just being that good? ~~Heresy, I know~~

Beast_Zero_Gudako · Dec 10, 2019

I mean, Dante cannot bypass her Abstract Existence, even tho he blitzed. And soul burning things is the Monte Cristo Mythology, not Enfer Cheteau d'ilf.

LSirLancelotDuLacl · Dec 10, 2019

Just to straighten it up, is more powerful meaning if they all battled or if they were battling someone else? Because Immeasurable speed, soul destroying flames and a NP that auto revives him and makes him way stronger if he ever approaches Death sounds more powerful than Nobu being hard to kill due to Abstract Existence.

ShiroyashaGinSan · Dec 10, 2019

Yeah, I think Edmond just has way more advantage than Nobunaga. The problem is that they kinda circles when put Ishtar at equation though.

Ishtar cannot be put down due to her intangibility which works on servants and her lack of soul. She can just BFR him to another universe when his NP ends. But she'll lose to Nobunaga due to being able to just destroy the universe entirely. But Edmond wins against Nobunaga due to his speed advantage.

Beast_Zero_Gudako · Dec 10, 2019

Wouldn't AE just bring Nobunaga back? It's not like Edmond can destroy her concept or anything. Also, Maxwell powered Nobu is scale to 2-A as iirc.

ShiroyashaGinSan · Dec 10, 2019

Her AE is weird. Yeah, she'll bring herself back but it is by sticking herself to other Nobunaga. That's why she was alive after being killed by Kagetora. It's in a weird position between really good possession by type 3 or just really shitty type 2 which doesn't work unless there's Nobunaga around the area.

Beast_Zero_Gudako · Dec 10, 2019

Soooo it's more like a very specific type 6 immortality?

ShiroyashaGinSan · Dec 10, 2019

You mean Type 6. It comes from her being abstract embodiment of Nobunaga from all eras though so both AE and Type 6.

Beast_Zero_Gudako · Dec 10, 2019

I mean, does the "Nobunaga" needs to be around in order for Maou Nobu to come back?

ShiroyashaGinSan · Dec 10, 2019

Yeah. At least in the same dimension.

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