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Accelerator VS Gremmy Thoumeaux

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In this scenario Accelerator start in his base form and cant use his Angle form, but he still can borrowing the Earth's energy and with the speed was equalized.

Update:

The condition is both is hate each other and want to kill each other, but still in characters and not bloodlusted.

Scenario 1: see the description above:

7 Votes for Gremmy

2 Vote for Accel

1 Inconclusive

Scenario 2: Accelerator can use his Angel Form:

7 Votes for Accel

3 Votes for Gremmy

- Gremmy Thoumeaux

- Accelerator

Who will humiliated who?

GremmyT
Gremmy

Acceleratormlg
Accelerator :v
 
gremmy imagines that accels brain turns into a rabbit :/ i would say this is a mismatch, accelerator doesnt have protection against reality warpers the moment they affect his body directly :(
 
Lots of brutal matches for accelerator lately..

The only saving grace for Accelerator Here is Gremmy's overwhelming stupidity. But even then Gremmy wins with ease..
 
I'm much more inclined to say accelerator in the second match, because he will go for the kill in the fastest way possible. I'd imagine the fight would go like:

While Gremmy is assing around Accelerator turns his hand and rips him to pieces from a distance. And even if Gremmy survived that hes going to be stupid enough to think that he is dying and kill himself with his own power.
 
Round 1 : gremmy imagines that accels heart explodes

Round 2 : Gremmy kills himself with his own power when he tried to stronger accel
 
maybe OP should add a third round with gremmy and CIS off XD

than gremmy would win again >_<

so, R1 gremmy, R2 accel if both are in character
 
Bot rounds Gremmy.

Gremmy uses Vanishing Point on Accelerator and Accelerator forgets about Gremmy.Then Gremmy attacks him while Accelerator isn't even noticing what's is going on.
 
I agree with Zensum because Gremmy had Imagination Limitation.

If Gremmy does not imagine his body to harden to sufficient levels, a strong enough opponent can cut through his body. Also, though Gremmy can increase his spiritual power to match the likes of an individual such as Kenpachi Zaraki, if he cannot imagine a body capable of containing that power, it can severely damage his body and kill him. (http://bleach.wikia.com/wiki/Gremmy_Thoumeaux)

Gremmy defeated by kenpachi (6B), that means character with higer tier could beat him and please remember accel is 6A
 
I still vote for gremmy but seeing and analyzing the fight thsi all come's down to

"Under what circumstances are they fighting"

"What emotion are they feeling during the fight"

Thats because gremmy can EASILY one shot accel with the visionary WITH OR WITHOUT ANGEL FORM even with dark wings gremmy can just imagine that accel can never control vectors at the first place.i dont know why people think accel can win with angel wings? I mean the only notable ability it has is controling vectors that dosent exist in the first place like so what? imagination exist in the head of anybody controling its vectors dosent necessarily mean you can control every single thought of gremmy .and the white wings as far as i know only increases his defenses so what? its increase is not limtless it cant shield him from the visionary.

BUT

seeing as gremmy is somewhat overconfident and accel's bloodlusted nature normally takes over everytime he fights.gremmy might not go all out on the first place and will try to toy with accel before he uses the full capabilities of the visionary and that may prove fatal cause if accel is mad he would use the full extent of his powers without hesitation and killing him through conventional means is pretty useless.BUT that situation will only happen if gremmy promises to give a fair fight to accel like what happened during his fight with kenpachi the reason gremmy died is because he wanted to give an honorable fight to an honorable captain and as the fight escalated gremmy imagined his own downfall

so i say gremmy is likely to win this but that is only through what circumsatnces are they fighting at.will gremmy promise to give a fair fight or be serious
 
@Compulse Accelerator doesn't need to touch his opponents in angel forms to control vectors (Truth be told he has also done this in base form after using his wings against kakine, but for whatever reason he hardly uses it). The reason Gremmy wins round one is I think hes going to get more opportunities to win, though Gremmy can certainly still lose if he tries to go close combat

And he isn't cocky/overconfident anymore. Infact in his angel forms, especially his darkwing form he starts out bloodlusted. He will immediately rip gremmy apart with a simple turn of his hand. if gremmy lives that, he kills himself with his own power, or Accel finishes him off.

Also don't wank gremmys imagination powers like "lulz can't controls vectors now" because he has clearly shown it has limits.

1. He will have no clue what Accelerators power is.

2.Even if he knew what it was, He will have no idea what a vector is, or how to imagine limiting Accelerators use over it.
 
If they are both in character it makes this way easier to determine, since Gremmy is a complete moron regarding using his power in any effective way.

Round 1: Gremmy will make a fool of himself by trying to set up physical obstacles and attacks to kill Accel just like he did with Kenpachi. Accel will charge right at him and go for his usual tactic of touching someone to rip them apart. Gremmy and all his organs are exploded from the inside. Gremmy can still win this if he realizes he's being stupid and uses his powers in a smart way, but he doesn't really seem the guy to do so, just like Accel prefers to use his powers to crush people in close combat despite all the options available to him. Accelerator would win 6 or 7 times out of ten.

Round 2: Similar to the first round, it depends if Accel is in one of his Dark Wings berserk episodes or if he's calm and using his White Wings. In the first one Accel kills Gremmy without needing to touch him by moving his hand. In the second one Accel tears him to multiple pieces with his wings and then shoots those pieces to space like he did with Amata. This is harder for Gremmy to win since while he's still the same Accelerator is stronger with way more range and either bloodlusted or a calm, smart fighter. Accelerator wins 8 times out of ten.
 
LordAizenSama said:
Also don't wank gremmys imagination powers like "lulz can't controls vectors now" because he has clearly shown it has limits.
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What kind of limitations did Gremmy show ? Just tell me one.We are not wanking here , if he uses his power properly he should do things like that.Because he actually did whatever he wanted in the manga.

He made himself stronger than Kenpachi so we can assume that he can make himself more powerful than his opponents.

He created Guanell Lee and gave him his power Vanishing Poing.So we can assume he can gave himself powers like that.

And these are can be counted as proofs for Gremmy's win.
 
SeriousDude said:
What kind of limitations did Gremmy show ? Just tell me one.
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The fact that he doubled his imagination power to create a meteor means it has limits.

Also your logic that Gremmy making himself more powerful then the opponent because he tried it on kenpachi (keep in mind doing that is what killed him) therefore it works on anyone including people who are stronger is.. laughable...

@Pietro:

1. If the op does not state whether its in character or not assume it is in character

2.He did infact say it's in character
 
If you are going with this logic , as for you Meteor was his strongest attack but it wasn't.Creating an outer space was much more powerful than Meteor.So Meteor was not his strongest attack.

He did not create another Gremmy to create a meteor.He wanted to show Kenpachi his strongest attach which is creating another Gremmy.

Why is it laughable ? He made himself stronger than an opponent who was stronger than himself.And what killed Gremmy was not Kenpachi but his body.If he imagined a body can bear that much strenght , he would easily defeat Kenpachi.
 
Created an outer space huh?.. In the raws of Gremmy's galaxy room you can see stars and galaxies. So, did he create galaxies?

Also Gremmy said his meteor was his strongest attack

Sorry to others if this is going offtopic a bit.
 
If he could do that, why he didnt use stronger attack than meteor while against kenpachi when he will defeated? If Gremmy could realize all his imagination, why he still lose against Kenpachi?
 
And actually, rereading the fight between Gremmy and Kenpachi i've changed my mind for the first round. Gremmy is just going to try halt him with obstacles which won't work, and try tank the first hit which will likely be fatal.

However in the rather unlikely event Gremmy has just a few seconds of no stupid decision making or just not as stupid decision making as we see with kenpachi he will probs win.. so I can't decide. inconclusive I guees :/.
 
LordAizenSama said:
Created an outer space huh?.. In the raws of Gremmy's galaxy room you can see stars and galaxies. So, did he create galaxies?
Also Gremmy said his meteor was his strongest attack
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I don't believe Soul Society has an outer space.So he should have created it.

If Meteor was his strongest attack , then why did Galaxy Room affect Kenpachi ?

Creating another Gremmy was his strongest attack.

So i'm saying both rounds Gremmy.
 
I dont think that attack is galaxy room attack. If its galaxy room, all soul society will be instantly destroyed.

Also, gremmy says that meteor is his strongest attack.
 
...Well I don't think you vote should be countered as your reasoning and misinterpretations of gremmys power is a bit.. ridiculous.
 
Makina Yuki said:
I dont think that attack is galaxy room attack. If its galaxy room, all soul society will be instantly destroyed.
Also, gremmy says that meteor is his strongest attack.
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Meteor was not his strongest attack my friend.

Galaxy Room did damage on Kenpachi so it was stronger than Meteor.

Also Gremmy made his clones explode and that explosion made a huge damage on Kenpachi.So it was also stronger than Meteor.

Re-read these chapters and you'll understand.

Creating another Gremmy was his strongest attack.
 
Makina Yuki said:
If he could do that, why he didnt use stronger attack than meteor while against kenpachi when he will defeated? If Gremmy could realize all his imagination, why he still lose against Kenpachi?
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plot! or CIS!

this is usually the only way to defeat a all-around-reality-warper on grennys lvl :/
 
Bump.

@Aizen, I honestly not sure about that since currently I still neutral and thus I try my best not to interrupt the votings, But If you really think it's necessary to do it then feel free to change the votings.

Anyway I will pretty less active for couple of days due to RL thing.
 
Not Jim Sterling said:
Bump.
Zensum said:
Gremmy round 1
Accel for round 2
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Please give reasons or otherwise your vote won't be counted
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Didnt see this till now.

Gremmy for round one cause it seems he can interact with people without contact such as instantly killing kensei and turning yachiru into cookies.

Round 2 for Accel beacuse angel form vectors can pretty much use imaginary vectors to solo. He would overpower gremmy rather easily and wouldnt neeed to touch him physically like in round 1
 
Gremmy first round for the reasons stated by the other users.

Accel second round because Gremmy is too cocky and won't go for the kill at first so Accel has the first shot, and only needs one hit to finish the fight so... yeah, he wins. (If Gremmy was bloodlusted he would win both rounds, though)
 
Pretty much what everyone says.

Going with Gremmy on both rounds though. Since Gremmy can heal that off probably.

Edit - How do you guys make organized images like that? I swear it's so hard.
 
This is my official Request:

Accelerator VS Gremmy Thoumeaux speed equalize, Gremmy win the first Scenario 7-2, but then lose in the second one 7-3, but I think we usually more priority all out battle or the second scenario.
 
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