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Fire Force Vol. 1-6 CRT.

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My first CRT for Fire Force, nothing too complex, but it is large. Here we go. This covers Vol. 1 through 6. Note, some of these characters DO NOT have profiles yet.


Shinra
Explosion Manipulation (Can create explosions with his kicks)

Smoke Manipulation (Can create fields of smoke)

Enhanced Senses, (Shinra can spot people entire buildings away and can sense intent with Adolla Link)

Analytical Predictio & Information Analysis (Was able to figure out and analyze the trajectory of the previous missiles to figure out where the next one would go)


Hinawa
Statistics Amplification via (Can increase the speed and damage of his bullets with Bullet Speed Control).


Joker
Fear Manipulation for (Unnerved Shinra). Shinra should also have a resistance to this for still being able to converse with him, and others via scaling.


Hibana
Illusion Creation, and Heat Manipulation, Blood Manipulation, and Confusio via (With Heat Syncope)

Shinra gets a resistance to all of these via fighting her first hand with these effects, and co via scaling.

Air Manipulation (Can restrict breathing)

Arthur should get a resistance to this, as he was still capable of breathing despite Hibana not caring if she was on his side. Others should get this via scaling too.


Arthur
Enhanced Senses? Extrasensory Perception? He was (able to see past a shapeshifter)


Benimaru
Fire Manipulation, obviously.

Forcefield Creation & Attack Reflection (Stopped Hinawa's bullets)

Martial Arts (Adept at Martial Arts)

Flight (Can use a mop to fly)

Attack Reflection (Can reflect attacks back to sender)


Dr. Giovanni
Stealth Mastery (Snuck up on Shinra despite his augmented senses)

Body Puppetry FRA.

Homing Attack (Can have his fist chase his opponent)

Electricity Manipulation (Can output 2 million volts)
 
I agree with everything but Arthur getting resistance to Hibana's ability. He directly says that he can't breathe.
 
I agree with all points except Arthur's resistance

Also a little thing with Benimaru's attack reflection is that since the verse focuses on fire manipulation and it's subpowers/uses (second generations in special being all about the manipulation aspect), his attack reflection very likely relies on advanced fire/heat manipulation and will probably only work on powers or subpowers related to such, wich should be noted.
 
My reasoning for saying this is that he was able to endure the effects until the machine dogs had hit her in the back of the head. However, this is unspecified how much time passed. So, yeah, I'll say no resistance.

And maybe limited attack reflection?
 
I don't agree with scaling resistances without evidence.
 
That isn't the case from what I've seen.

Also, I think Shinra should only get Resistance to Confusion. He still gets affected by the heat, and his blood is increased in temperature, but he overcomes the effects of it via willpower.
 
> I've seen it in BlazBlue, Fate, many many more.

May depend on the verse and what is actually being resisted. But I know in most cases you don't grant resistances across multiple characters based on a single feat unless there is evidence.

If someone said "All Fire Force soldiers are unaffected by heat"

Then that would be a case where it would be okay to grant Heat Resistance to them all, for example.

> And overcoming it with willpower is a resistance.

Yes; which is why he should have Resistance to Confusion, but not resistance to Blood Manipulation.
 
If they're comparable, why wouldn't they get a resistance?

And as for not resisting the blood, that makes no sense. His blood is heated and his blood vessels are swelled, yet he's still able to fight despite this. Clear cut resistance, imo.
 
Comparable in what? Being as powerful / as fast / as durability as someone doesn't necessarily mean you're as resistant as them to everything.

If he had resistance to blood manipulation, then his blood wouldn't be manipulated so easily. Yet she is able to manipulate his blood fine.

It is the effects of that; the dizziness/confusion that he resists.
 
I'll call others to discuss this, because I've seen this happen for many verses and I can't tell what's the difference here.

She manipulates the blood to GIVE him these effects, that's the first resistance in and of itself.
 
But that's my point; he's resisting the effects of dizziness / vertigo, he's not resisting his blood being manipulated.
 
Not a Resistance to Blood Manipulation IMO. The effects of it that is actually affecting his ability to fight; dizziness, vertigo, etc. Those are what he is actually resisting. His blood is still being manipulated via the heat.
 
I think most of the new abilities seem fine, but the others make a good point about the resistances. Though, not familiar with the verse, so that's just me.
 
You need some kind of evidence to scale resistances. Simply being powerful doesn't make one resistant.

If we go by your logic than her Heat Synocope wouldn't be effective of any character because Shinra was one of the low-tier characters of the verse in the beginning.
 
@Milly could you add statistics amplification for Shinra? Corna and Shinra make both his AP and Speed higher
 
I'm aware of what Rapid is, not Corna though. But what do you feel about scaling the resistances? 3 people agree, 1 (not sure if I should count Dragon, he said he's unfamiliar) disagree.
 
Can you please provide some evidence for scaling the resistances? There is a missing gap in your logic:

1) Shinra can resist these things.

2) Character X is just as strong as Shinra.

3) ???????

4) Character X can also resist these things.
 
Again, this is how a majority of verses I've seen in here go down, with absolutely no debate.

Shinra can resist these things via willpower, and those comparable and stronger should be capable of the same feat unless told otherwise.
 
I've seen verses scaling resistances because characters are comparable. If for some reason we are rejecting this now, then a thread should be made. Otherwise, I agree
 
You're just assuming characters that are comparable in strength also have equal willpower to him with no evidence?
 
That's not how this works. The Resistance page itself says that it needs to be judged on feats.

You're the one making the claim, you need to prove it.
 
Artur should have a willpower greater than Shinra. The dude literally stomped bloodlusted Shinra while confident. I don't doubt he resisting the same stuff as Shinra can
 
You can't scale resistance because they're comparable, see here. Look for Pachi'\s comments since he was staff back then.

Although I disagree with it consdering the only argument was it's a high tier ability or something.
 
Another example is DBS.

Base Goku can survive being trapped inside a ball of destruction energy but it's not upscaled to Vegeta.

Vegeta can nullify absolute zero by just powering up, but it's not upscaled to Goku who can logically do the same thing.
 
Just because other verses do something that may be wrong isn't a reason to go ahead and do it as well.
 
I don't know if it was supposed, I remember something like that but the abilitie still there
 
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