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One Punch Man AP upgrades

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So after a long wait all of the calcs are done and the discussion thread had determined what's usable.

Who scales to Choze

  • Every Dragon without a better feat or better scaling will now scale to Choze
  • Genos' last key will have its High 7-C key switch with a 7-B one
  • S-Class such as Pig God, Metal Bat (at when pumped up), and Watchdog Man will get a 7-B or At least 7-B rating
Who directly scales to Goketsu

  • Orochi: He has multiple statements all confirming he's above Goketsu
  • Ōgon Seishi: Stated as being physically superior to Orochi and is generally vastly above everyone else
Who likely scales to Goketsu
As the scaling isn't as solid with the other two, my suggested idea is to either use "At least 7-B, likely 7-A" or just "Likely 7-A" in a similar case to what we use for Blizzard. The suggested people as listed by @Peter1129 and discussed in the second general discussion thread

  • Elder Centipede: Likely 7-A (Often considered to be one of the top executives of the monster association. Should be coom[arable if not stronger than Gouketsu)
  • Overgrown Rover: Likely 7-A (Stronger than Elder Centipede. Shrugged off a combination attack from Bang and Bomb that was even stronger than the one they used on Elder Centipede)
  • Post-2nd Resurecction Phoenix Man: Likely 7-A (Much stronger than his previous form. Easily overpowered the Brave Giant and tore off its arm)
  • Peak Half-Monster Garou: Likely 7-A (Easily overpowered Superalloy Darkshine after receiving a power boost and could perform the Cross Fang Dragon Slayer Fist by himself)
  • Flashy Flash: Likely 7-A (Peak Half-Monster Garou would lose badly against him)
  • Bang: Likely 7-A (Managed to stop Elder Centipede's charge and destroyed his carapace using a combination attack with Bomb)
  • Bomb: Likely 7-A (Managed to stop Elder Centipede's charge and destroyed his carapace using a combination attack with Bang)
  • Darkshine: Likely 7-A (Shattered Half-Monster Garou's ribs with a tackle. Previously Garou withstood dozens of attacks from Rover)
  • Brave Giant: Likely 7-A (Overpowered Post-Resurrection Phoenix Man. Tanked attacks from Gale Wind and Hellfire Flame in their monster form)
  • Psykos: Likely 7-A (Pinned down Bang)
  • Homeless Emperor: Likely 7-A (Knocked out Bang. As a note this only scales to AP and not durability)
  • Post-Resurrection Phoenix Man: Likely 7-A (Damaged the Brave Giant which Gale Wind and Hellfire Flame in their monster form weren't able to do)
  • Gale Wind Monster Form: Likely 7-A (Slightly injured Flashy Flash)
  • Hellfire Flame Monster Form: Likely 7-A (Slightly injured Flashy Flash)
  • Metal Knight: Likely 7-A (With prep he was considered one of the few people capable of killing Elder Centipede)
  • Boros: Likely 7-A (Vastly superior to his generals and was considered to be strong enough to destroy all life on the Earth within ten days)
Others
As its pretty important, and I personally don't know. How does Peak Human Garou and Metal Bat scale? Should they be 7-B outright or keep their split ratings?
 
Yeah Darkshine is sorta... lacking in AP I guess. I think without better proof him and Carnage Kabuto should be limited to "At least 7-B".
 
About Darkshine, it is worth remembering that although he was dominated in the fights with Bang, Bang did not manage to hurt him significantly thanks to his incredible durability.
 
I think he was easily defeated but he didn't take much damage due to his durability. So yeah on second thought Darkshine should only have 7-A durability and not AP.
 
Will Bang stating that he didn't hold back during his assault on Garou mean anything for the scaling?
 
In a few manga chapters (which could take up to half a year) we should have a solid feat we can use to scale Darkshine.
 
I dunno. I feels questionable if he was really going all out on Garou. I do think however, that Peak Human Garou does have scaling from Metal Bat and the Dragon rating that would suggest he's 7-B on his own.

In a few manga chapters (which could take up to half a year) we should have a solid feat we can use to scale Darkshine.

I have no doubt that Darkshine will likely get 7-A scaling in the future. Just that at the moment there's not much backing the rating besides "Well it does sound right".
 
@Qaw He stated to Bomb that he wasn't holding back, and the context of that scene also makes me feel like he was telling the truth.
 
I think that Bang wasnt trying to kill Garou but that doesnt mean he held back in the slightliest. I could compare it to Super Saiyan Goku fighting 100% Frieza. Goku didnt want to kill Frieza but that doesnt mean he was holding back.
 
I feel that with some webcomic scenes its iffy. But if others are okay with it, then it can probably be used as 7-B justification. I don't think it would back a 7-A rating though. Especially considering his fight with Bug God and Royal Ripper right after.
 
I'm not really sure if Atomic Samurai should be 7-A for slicing Black Sperm. Genos was also able to destroy Black Sperm's body so does that mean he scales before the dragon lvl upgrades? I was thinking maybe this was another case like Melzalgard where weaker characters could injure him because they wanted to show off his regen.
 
True. Although in that case I think BS should just be "At least 7-B" then rather than 7-A.
 
Yeah I based off my list mostly using the description from the current profiles even though personally I disagree with some of them. If I remember correctly Black Sperm knocked out a off guard Bomb rather than knocking him out in combat so I also don't think he should scale to 7-A.
 
So is everyone fine with the summary as is? If so I'll begin to edit stuff.
 
@Qawsedf234 There was a calc for Geryuganshoop tossing rubbles at relativistic speed which I think got High 7-A results but there was some problems with it? And if the recalc gets accepted I was wondering if it would scale to Bang since Boros' commanders should be somewhat comparable to each other right?
 
> since Boros' commanders should be somewhat comparable to each other right?

Why would they be?
 
sorry for this Off-Topic:

There is one thing I would like to ask about the feat of Orochi. Many said that the calculation was incomplete because it did not account for the city's movement as a wave. But the calcer could not calculate that part. It could give a new number to the top tiers. Can someone calc this part to add to original calc?
 
The reason they didn't calculate it is that, well, no one knows how to do it really. But it would only scale to two people. Orochi and GS
 
After thinking about it I don't think Melzalgard should scale to Geryuganshoop unless there is a statement that said he is comparable. But I'm pretty sure Geryugabshoop would scale to four characters.

Orochi, Golden Sperm, Sealed Boros, and Groribas who was stated to be the strongest of the three commanders.
 
Peter1129 said:
@Qawsedf234 There was a calc for Geryuganshoop tossing rubbles at relativistic speed which I think got High 7-A results but there was some problems with it? And if the recalc gets accepted I was wondering if it would scale to Bang since Boros' commanders should be somewhat comparable to each other right?
Well using sketchy quick math

  • Rock size
  • Super rough pixel scaling gets me a volume of 76.36 cm^3 and assuming it has the mass of concrete that's 175.628 grams of debris
  • Current accepted speed value is 10% light but I'll go 99% as a high end
  • Single debris energy: 7.89233e+13 Joules or 7.73527e+15 Joules
  • I count 13 possible tosses
  • Total debris energy: 1.0260029e+15 Joules or 1.0055851e+17 Joules
Even the highest end is just 7-B.
 
Well, at least Geryu is more justified being 7-B

Maybe, I don't know how to converte Joules to Tons properly
 
Disappointing but I should've seen that coming. So should we go back on topic and talk about Human Garou and Metal Bat?
 
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