One Punch Man AP upgrades

[Qawsedf234]

Disappointing but I should've seen that coming. So should we go back on topic and talk about Human Garou and Metal Bat?

To add, I did forget about increased mass. But iirc, the maximum allowed without a in-universe statement is 4x, which would lead to 4.022343e+17 joules. Which is 1.04x lower than baseline 7-A. So like, if you maybe strech it you could just sorta justify Boros and Venus Fly trap man being 7-A normally. But that relies on assuming its 99% light when we only rate it at 10%

So should we go back on topic and talk about Human Garou and Metal Bat?

I wanna say pumped up Metal Bat is 7-B. For base Metal Bat he should be "At least 7-C, likely 7-B" imo. His durability should be 7-B no matter what though.

Garou is weirder, but should also be 7-B in his peak human form.

 

[Muuuuh]

Qawsedf234 escreveu:
A raz├úo pela qual eles n├úo calcularam é que, bem, ninguém sabe como faz├¬-lo realmente. Mas isso só seria escalar para duas pessoas. Orochi e GS
About the Heroes who fought the first form of Garou and continued to rise after the first blow, like DS and FF, would they be scaled?

 

[Peter1129]

I wanna say pumped up Metal Bat is 7-B. For base Metal Bat he should be "At least 7-C, likely 7-B" imo. His durability should be 7-B no matter what though.

Garou is weirder, but should also be 7-B in his peak human form.

I was thinking just At least 7-C For Metal Bat's AP. His current 7-B came from being able to survive a battle against Carnage Kabuto Carnage Mode for 3 minutes but somebody actually brought up a good point on the OPM wiki or reddit (don't remember which). They said that Metal Bat might've been using some Fighting Spirit amp to keep up with Kabuto in the VGS. As he's shown that he could use it even without being in a near death state against Senior Centipede and Venus Flytrap.

 

[Qawsedf234]

We don't scale them now. As Saitama showed, Awakened Garou wasn't actually trying to kill any of them. Just trying to instill fear/dread.

 

[Muuuuh]

You right, I forgot that

 

[Schnee_One]

What's the 7A scaling chain by the way?

 

[Qawsedf234]

Metal Bat might've been using some Fighting Spirit amp to keep up with Kabuto in the VGS.

I mean, I guess? I reread the fight to make sure and the only think MB implied is that in real life he could survive fatal wounds due to his fighting spirit, but nothing outright says he couldn't get stronger. I'll have to let others weigh in on that, but personally I do agree with you somewhat. His base strength should just be "At least 7-C" or something. His durability should remain as is however.

 

[Qawsedf234]

What's the 7A scaling chain by the way?

Hard scaling: Goketsu -> Orochi -> GS

Implied Scaling: Goketsu -> Elder Centipede -> Bang/Bomb/Metal Knight with prep -> Those who scale to them | Goketsu -> Overgrown Rover

Actually thinking about this, a lot of character rely on scaling from Flashy Flash in some fashion. Should Half-Monster Garou and FF really be 7-A? Or just "At least 7-B"? Because to my knowledge they do lack direct scaling.

 

[Schnee_One]

So they're backscaling?

Damn.

 

[Peter1129]

@Qawsedf234 But yeah Human Garou kinda makes things confusing as he was able to injure Metal Bat who could tank attacks from dragon lvl threats.

@Schnee One There really isn't a scaling chain for the 7-As but the closest thing to a scaling chain for the 7-As is this.

Overgrown River > Elder Centipede First Form ~ Gouketsu (203 Megatons) > Bomb >= Bang (101.5 Megatons)

 

[Peter1129]

I think Peak Half-Monster Garou should be 7-A for being able to perform the Cross Fang Dragon Slayer Fist which required both Bang and Bomb to perform.

 

[Qawsedf234]

@Peter1129 You know I just realized, if others agree to it, there is a way to scale Darkshine to 7-A. If we scale Half-Monster Garou to Rover's AP, then Darkshine would also be 7-A due to shattering his ribs with the one rush.

 

[Peter1129]

Well that would be a possible way to scale Darkshine but I don't think early Half-Monster Garou completely scales to Rover. And just making sure only early Half-Monster Garou's durability scales to Rover right? Not his AP.

 

[Qawsedf234]

It'd be like: Rover's AP -> Half -Monster Garou's durability -> Darkshine's AP/Durability -> Peak Half-Monster Garou's AP. The current profile only uses him at his peak, but it can be included if we mention that he amped himself mid-fight.

 

[Peter1129]

Yeah that could work. So should we add Darkshine and those that scale to him back onto the list?

 

[Qawsedf234]

Yeah. Before Ryu gets here can you also think of a proper way to explain the scaling? I can think of a sentence but its a bit wordy.

 

[SuperAPM]

Has Darkshine vs Half Monster Garou happened in the Manga yet?

 

[Qawsedf234]

Nah. It should be within the next ten or so chapter though (Normally I would say 5 but Nyan and the other Dragons haven't really been shown yet).

 

[Peter1129]

So basically tldring the entire scaling. Yeah that's kind of hard. Sorry I don't think I have any ideas for that. We should probably just show him the scaling and see if he agrees with it if we don't have any ideas.

 

[SuperAPM]

I'd say we should wait to see if its the same, but I doubt It'll be to different from the Webcomic

 

[Qawsedf234]

If its radically different, like what happened with Rover vs Garou, I can just downgrade everyone. Its a bit of work but I'll do it.

 

[Peter1129]

I can help change the profiles if that ever happens in the future.

 

[Andytrenom]

I would think waiting for the manga is better, but that updates a bit too slowly for revisions to be done at a reasonable pace

 

[Qawsedf234]

If the manga was on a set schedule (weekly, monthly, bi-weekly, etc) I would agree that waiting would be the best choice. But since it has no set schedule I feel it would be asking to wait for far to long. Like I said if its wrong I (or someone else) can always just reverse the changes.

 

[Andytrenom]

Which I can agree with

 

[Albertraski]

So, the current manga Garou is 7-B, in fight against darkshine is 7-A and after superalloy bazooka what is more stronger than 7-A base Darkshine Garou is at least 7-A?

 

[Qawsedf234]

• Current: 7-B with 7-A durability

• Darkshine: 7-A AP/Durability

• Peak Half-Monster: 7-A due to KO'ing Darkshine

 

[PaChi2]

Storywise, who's Peak Human Garou? The one who fights Bang and Bomb?

 

[Qawsedf234]

That or right before he gets clowned on by Watchdog Man

 

[SuperAPM]

I thought it was before he got shredded by Royal Ripper

 

[PaChi2]

Well, the one who I assumed it was should be 7-B as he took a whole beating from both Bang and Bomb. But later on he gets shredded by two demon level guys (but he was badly injured at the time).

So...?

 

[Tetsucabrah]

Elder Centipede Genos should be a new key on his profile.

 

[SuperAPM]

I would imagine that Bang and bomb was taking it easy on Garou at that point

 

[DbzDB2]

can we at least upgrade gouketsu to 7-A and the ones that definitely scale?

 

[Tetsucabrah]

Bomb said the reason Bang called him for help was because he was worried he might accidentally kill Garou.

 

[PaChi2]

Bomb said the reason Bang called him for help was because he was worried he might accidentally kill Garou.

That means he wasnt holding back.

 

[Tetsucabrah]

Bomb said the reason Bang called him for help was because he was worried he might accidentally kill Garou.

That means he wasnt holding back.

Yeah that's what I'm saying.

 

[DbzDB2]

so you're saying that a highly weakened nearly dead human garou is more durable than fuhrer ugly and gums, who are both dragons?

bang when not holding back was able to one shot both executives instantly, whereas garou tanked hundreds if not thousands of punches from bang.

 

[Damage3245]

Bang was holding back against Garou.

 

[PaChi2]

Bang was holding back against Garou.

Any reason to lie to Bomb?