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Jotaro VS Josuke but it's different this time.

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I know this match already happened here and in canon but this ime is different.

It's Josuke at the end of DIU VS Pre "The World" Jotaro, more specifically at the end of the first half of SC.

Fight takes place in Egypt.

Cool guy with cool hair (Josuke):1

High School Emo (Jotaro):7

They go party (inconclusive):1
 
Josuke should have more experience using his Stand, and this is Jotaro without Time Stop, so the former should take this handily considering he has that Revertion effect, I think.
 
Josuke also knows about Star Platinum, or is that not true in here? it makes sense imo. Either way, voting Josuke
 
Going Jotaro. Star Platinum is heavily nerfed in speed in Part 4. There's no way even with Josuke's experience that he could anticipate SP's sheer speed and raw power with a part three Jotaro. Without timestop, Jotaro relies on different strategies that Josuke wouldn't see coming anyway. Jotaro even admits in part 4 that he wasn't using SP much since part three which is shown by the lack of time stop he has.

Jotaro via greater attack speed and actual raw power
 
That's fair, actually. I don't think Jotaro's necessarily better at strategizing than Josuke, especially with how creative he gets, though. He could pull off that trick he did against Kira with the bloodied glass shard, but Jotaro IS superior on a physical level (in terms of stands, that is.) however, both have survived barrages from similar stands, and I think that, after getting beat up a bit, Josuke would use some weird Crazy Diamond tricks to beat Jotaro.
 
Fair but I don't think CD's ability is something Jotaro couldn't overcome. The fact that he could improvise and beat an expert at water type abilities, justice which is a literal ship, outdo a poker expert through sheer intimidation AND all of his other wacky adventures, I'd say he had an edge beating stands with unique and wacky abilities, and I don't believe CD is something Jotaro would struggle with for too long. Plus not only is part 3 and 4 Jotaro different in terms of speed and power, but Jotaro is different strategically pre and post the world. This means any prior knowledge Josuke has is very limited

Therefore im sticking with Jotaro
 
Understandable, this is very close and could really go either way, but you should consider that Jotaro actually doesn't have any experience against close range pummeling stands, since this is before his fight with DIO. And though it's true that he's beaten a lot of wacky stands, so has Josuke. I'd say they're about equal in skill and experience, so really this is a battle of who has the better tools. And while the same trick wouldn't work on Jotaro twice, Josuke has a lot of tricks.

So I'm sticking with Josuke, but really, it could go either way easily.
 
True. This Jotaro hasn't met much in close quarter stands. However if HAS fought Polnareff and Anubis which when speed amped are as fast as a part three Jotaro SP and is a stand which aggressively attacks and adapts to anything thrown at it that doesn't beat it. Jotaro literally beats someone which knew what SP can do and steal beat it which was a close quarter stand and as fast as him. While Josuke has met really bizarre stands, I feel like Jotaro did more for a stand with no powers. While Josuke definitely did some impressive stuff, Jotaro strategised and beat a gaming and poker experts respectively while also beating down a water based stand which I don't really think Josuke could do

It could go either way but I'm still leaning with Jotaro
 
Understandable.

Now, the real question, Stand Proud or Crazy Noisy Bizarre Town?
 
CNBT definitely hahah

Not a huge fan of Stand Proud

Best JoJo OP for me is either Great Days rewind or Sono Chi no Sadame with Bloody Stream a close third
 
I don't know if I can participate but wasn't agreed here that 4taro retains his original strenght (initially as strong ans before and beat down Killer Queen)?
 
You know, I've just had the realization Jotaro could make a comment about Josuke's hair and berserk him, then win the fight with ease by having superior melee skills.
 
It's worth noting that Jotaro was sorely out of practice in the start of Part 4. His fight against Josuke there was quite clearly not in his prime.

Not having Time Stop does suck, a lot, but he still has plenty of techniques to resort to while in his prime.
 
UltimateFlare said:
I don't know if I can participate but wasn't agreed here that 4taro retains his original strenght (initially as strong ans before and beat down Killer Queen)?
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I'm fairly certain it's agreed that Part 3 Star Platinum is the physically strongest stand in the series and that Crazy Diamond is Physically superior to 4taro's stand.
 
IvoryAS said:
UltimateFlare said:
I don't know if I can participate but wasn't agreed here that 4taro retains his original strenght (initially as strong ans before and beat down Killer Queen)?
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I'm fairly certain it's agreed that Part 3 Star Platinum is the physically strongest stand in the series and that Crazy Diamond is Physically superior to 4taro's stand.
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Isn't The World slightly superior to SP?
 
Armorchompy said:
IvoryAS said:
UltimateFlare said:
I don't know if I can participate but wasn't agreed here that 4taro retains his original strenght (initially as strong ans before and beat down Killer Queen)?
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I'm fairly certain it's agreed that Part 3 Star Platinum is the physically strongest stand in the series and that Crazy Diamond is Physically superior to 4taro's stand.
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Isn't The World slightly superior to SP?
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I would think it's faster, but it was injured by SP in combat more than vice-versa, even as awoken Dio. That and DIO had little reason to hold back, so it wouldn't make sense that that was the reason
 
I mean, every time it gets injured is cause of Jotaro outsmarting DIO, not a direct confrontation. When they do compare stand rushes at the start of the fight, DIO wins.
 
I'll be voting Jotaro, too. In his prime, even without a 2 second time stop, he could certainly take the win. Remember, in Josuke vs Jotaro at the beginning of Part 4, not only was Josuke bloodlusted while Jotaro was trying to not kill Josuke, but Jotaro was older and past his prime.
 
I'm still skeptical that Jotaro got that weak in Part 4 but whatever.

Jotaro:4

Josuke:2

Inconclusive:1
 
UltimateFlare said:
I'm still skeptical that Jotaro got that weak in Part 4 but whatever.
Jotaro:4

Josuke:2

Inconclusive:1
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His Time Stop went down to 2 seconds at max, that's a pretty blunt decrease.
 
That's from lack of use and given part 6 is possible to build it up to max again.

I'm talking about physical stats (strenght, speed, durability, etc).
 
Yea, lack of use. Such as, if you don't work out, you'll slowly get weaker.

Such as, watching dolphins instead of fighting age-old vampires.
 
Ok, let's agree to disagree because neither of us will change their mind and I can't participate much since I'm the one who made the thread.

Imma just count the votes for now on.
 
Jotaro FRA

Also in Part 4, Joraro was merely testing Josuke and analyzing what he could do in their first encounter. When Josuke awakened CD, Jotaro didn't expect a close-range Stand (especially one similar to SP) to start attacking him with a barrage of punches as he was just trying to coax CD out, resulting in Jotaro resorting to blocking in defense.

Even then, Part 4 Jotaro easily knocked Josuke out with a punch from himself while SP easily countered a jab from CD, meaning Part 3 Jotaro (who's at his peak) can definitely take him out.
 
Jotaro ftra, it should also be noticed that Josuke was in the same berserk mode that later made him literally lose his sight.
 
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