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I can't really think of anything major that would put them at Large Star level. Where is the multiplier and scaling that puts them there again?
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Where Does Large Star Level for Cell Saga Come From?
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I think is backward scaling from SP Cell. There's no exact value.
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Then where is SP Cells feat? The only thing I can think of is a spanish guidebook claiming that Trunks is 10x stronger than Vegeta as a 3rd Grade sayian. That that only really applies to P Cell and those who scale to him.Antoniofer said:
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Threatening to blow up the Solar System.Lightbuster30 said:
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SP Cell feat is baseline (iirc), so people these people scale unquantificable below him. Large Star level is a big tier. Unless I'm a little confused and you are refering to other characters.
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We stopped backscaling Perfect Cell from Super Perfect Cell ages ago ever since he went from baseline to KiloFoe, now I think it's purely by how large the scaling chain is starting from 1st form Freeza alongside official multipliers or something.
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It's 1 KiloFoE, or around 44x times baseline.Antoniofer said:
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I thought you were talking about Semi-Perfect Cell.Antoniofer said:
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Nope, Super Perfect.Lightbuster30 said:
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According to Dust Collecter, we don't anymore, but I don't see how get High 4-C?Paulo.junior.969 said:
Is it via multiplier or something?
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So, High 4-C just comes out of nowhere? Yeah, that sounds about right.
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In that case they need to be downgraded to at least 4-C.
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Thanks
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Bump, this needs resolving.
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Well, between Freeza and Super Perfect Cell, we had to logically estimate the tiers of various different characters due to lack of quantifiable feats. However, this rating comes from a being much stronger than the androids who were much stronger than Freeza, and also reverse scaling from the Solar System level SPC.
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I felt really weird to see Z era around Solar System level . At least i felt Cell , manga Z goku amd Buu should be around 4C
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I felt really weird to see Z era around Solar System level . At least i felt Cell , manga Z goku amd Buu should be around 4C
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Speaking of that old blog, I actually check the math for both ends and I do noticed he compared them to the Sun's GBE. And these were the recalcs I got based on the formulas.
- Low-end : 265^2/35.4*(5.693 * 10^41 Joules) = 1.1293529 * 10^45 Joules or 11.293529 Foe; which is still High 4-C and a hair away from a "+" sign, but not quite.
- 375^2/28.8*(5.693 * 10^41 Joules) = 2.7797852 *10^45 Joules or 27.797852 Foe; which is around baseline 4-B.
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For Shin's feat, I suppose the low end is safer; but it does help solidify the High 4-C to 4-B jump either way.
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Maybe not, it's not going to cause such drastic changes if Low End is used.
The others remains are they are.
Grade 2 Vegeta, Grade 2 and 3 Trunks, Cell Saga Piccolo, SS Vegeta and Trunks remains High 4-C.
Goten and Trunks remains at High 4-C.
Cell Saga Mastered Super Saiyan Goku, Mastered Super Saiyan Gohan [Both Cell and Buu Saga] and Buu Saga Piccolo becomes at least High 4-C.
Since i consider Shin [who MSS Goku threatened to kill] being slightly stronger than Cell Saga Mastered Super Saiyan Gohan and Cell easily defeated said Gohan and powered up beyond against SS2 Gohan, he reaches the +:
Perfect Cell, Buu Saga Mastered Super Saiyan Goku and Vegeta, Dabura, SS2 Buu Saga Gohan, RoF Piccolo becomes High 4-C+.
The others remains are they are.
Grade 2 Vegeta, Grade 2 and 3 Trunks, Cell Saga Piccolo, SS Vegeta and Trunks remains High 4-C.
Goten and Trunks remains at High 4-C.
Cell Saga Mastered Super Saiyan Goku, Mastered Super Saiyan Gohan [Both Cell and Buu Saga] and Buu Saga Piccolo becomes at least High 4-C.
Since i consider Shin [who MSS Goku threatened to kill] being slightly stronger than Cell Saga Mastered Super Saiyan Gohan and Cell easily defeated said Gohan and powered up beyond against SS2 Gohan, he reaches the +:
Perfect Cell, Buu Saga Mastered Super Saiyan Goku and Vegeta, Dabura, SS2 Buu Saga Gohan, RoF Piccolo becomes High 4-C+.
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That list looks good to me.
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11.293529 Foe is literally a hair away from a "+" sign, which other Buu saga cast are noticeably above him.
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He is calc'ing the GBE of the most massive star known, I think. And indeed...outdated calc.
But how does that match with Shin? Is this supposed to be about the whole "Kaioshin create stars and planets" jazz? If so, it still sounds a bit wanky to use the most massive star ever known.
But how does that match with Shin? Is this supposed to be about the whole "Kaioshin create stars and planets" jazz? If so, it still sounds a bit wanky to use the most massive star ever known.
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I forgot the feat assumes the stars have the same density as the sun; was just correcting the math he did based on the same formula. Anyway, I don't think "Wanky" is the right world rather than just iffy; at least it's not the same as assuming they create Neutron Stars. I'm fine with that calc not being accepted, but they should still be at least well into High 4-C no matter what.
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