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The World Champ Fights A Turtle (Hercule Satan vs. A Koopa Troopa) (One Vote Remains)

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Why does this match exist? I dunno. I decided it was worth a try after talking on chat considering my sudden mood to make a Mario match. And besides, maybe against someone as basic as a Koopa Troopa, the world champion may actually have a fair shot. So, how will this pan out? I don't know, but I can't wait to find out!

In the blue corner, we have Mister Sata from Dragon Ball Z, and in the red corner, we have a single Koopa Troopa from the Mario franchise.

Mr satan
Koopa Troopa SMBU
-This is a battle to the death or incapacitation. No holds barred.
-Neither character are aware of each other beforehand, and there is no prep time.

-Neither character are allowed any outside help.

-This battle takes place in the arena for the World Martial Arts Tournament, giving Mr. Satan the clear home-field advantage.

-Mr. Satan's weapons are restricted in this fight.

-Speed is not equalized

With all this being said, let the debate begin!

He Defeated Cell: 1 (Superweeb2987)

He Defeated Mario: 6 (Dargoo Faust, Mr. Bambu, Iapitus The Impaler, GyroNutz, DaBigP, Zark2099)

Random UFO KO's Both: 5 (Torlikoff, DMUA, Goodyfresh, ZackMoon1234, Jasonsith)
 
So, it probably goes something like:

Satan attacks, the turtle retreats, Satan can't break the shell

Probably incon.
 
Hercule probably does his usual smack talk

The Koopa Troopa actually bails

Hercule sits confused as it's considered self BFR

>Looks at OP

Oh

Well, Koopa getting spooked to the point of not fighting isn't Incap, so, Inconclusive for reasons above.
 
Cant Mr.Satan just drag the too-scared Koopa Troopa and throw them down a volcano or something...?
 
Why would he bother going those lengths to win a fight?

He'd probably just taunt the Koopa over being too scared to fight and then just wander off into the lockers or something. He wouldn't bother finishing it if he already saw it as a decisive victory.
 
Akreious said:
Cant Mr.Satan just drag the too-scared Koopa Troopa and throw them down a volcano or something...?
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What DMUA said. Going that far to beat a turtle that won't come out of its shell is extremely OOC for Satan to do.
 
>Satan punches the turtle

>shell bounces off of the walls of the area over and over again and hits him

Rinse and repeat until Satan has most of his bones break.
 
I mean, again, he's probably not going to start with attacking, he'll just psyche the turtle out and it'll get spooked or try to run.
 
He's going to try punching it eventually, tbh. Results are the same either way.
 
You know, I was wondering why people were ignoring basic Mario physics here.
 
I know Koopas stay inside their shells a lot, but isn't assuming that they literally incapacitate themselves over being punched by a 9-B vastly exaggerating it? Like those things throw themselves at High 4-Cs at will all day.
 
I mean, he punches it, it spins off into the area walls and bounces off, slowly but surely splitting the arena in half and threatening the audience, by which case Hercule will probably try to just tackle it and stop it from moving as opposed to punch it again.

He's not the type of moron to just punch something until it stops moving, and he's not the type of coward to let a hazard to the audience just bounce around like that.
 
Saikou The Lewd King said:
I know Koopas stay inside their shells a lot, but isn't assuming that they literally incapacitate themselves over being punched by a 9-B vastly exaggerating it? Like those things throw themselves at High 4-Cs at will all day.
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I mean, it's not like they dive into the tiering system that much. A big burly Martial Artist talking trash would not strike them as 1x10^42 times weaker then the stuff they usually have to deal with.
 
Wait a minute. Wouldn't they also be fighting on a raised platform, due to the exact location of the fight? Technically, Mr. Satan could just punch it once and not have to deal with it as it bounces around on the ground.
 
That...doesn't relate to my argument though. Koopas willingly throw themselves at people they know they stand no chance against. Why would a koopa here literally incapacitate itself over being hit by someone who probably would only hurt their shell-less durability when they don't do that even against Mario (pretty sure that some games have Koopas just get out of their shells after a time)
 
Also, not sure about the "Higher via shells" bit considering that they use them to do 9-B feats, not become increasingly resistant to damage in comparison to base.

Hercule should be fine punching the thing.
 
Well, in Super Mario World, Mario actually knocks the Koopas out of their shells by stomping on them. However, that technically only happened in that game, as many of them just had them retreat into their shells after getting stomped on.
 
What Saikou is saying makes sense.

@Starter Not really? The arena has slopes that go up to it, which the Koopa could slide back up with.
 
Dargoo Faust said:
@Starter Not really? The arena has slopes that go up to it, which the Koopa could slide back up with.
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Fair enough, then.
 
Saikou The Lewd King said:
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Pretty sure that's mostly the fact that they have to deal with a big, terrifying Waifu Overlord that would probably kill them if they ran for the hills.

Not that they care since they run for it anyways in some games.
 
Dargoo Faust said:
@Starter Not really? The arena has slopes that go up to it, which the Koopa could slide back up with.
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It has stairs, not a slope, which, rolling things have trouble getting up.
 
What DMUA says is true, especially in the Mario & Luigi games. They have shown time and again that they are yellow-bellied cowards, and may resort to running away if they have no one there to direct them and scare them into staying in line.

(And Bowser being there would be a huge outside influence that probably would have to be specified.)
 
I vote Inconclusive here for the reasons some other people have been giving. Koopa retreats into shell, Satan is too damn lazy in-character to continue the fight at that point.
 
I unironically agree with Dargoo. Hercule is exactly the type to try to smack the shell and... well if he does he's just gonna get destroyed.

Voting Koopa.
 
Well, it's kind of a speed blitz. Mr. Satan is way faster than the Koopa, and would probably kill it before it could even retreat into it's shell. But even if it does get into it's shell, it will eventually come out. If not, Mr. Satan will eventually break the shell. And if Mr. Satan does send it flying, he'd be able to easily dodge it. If it does hit him, it wouldn't be able to 1-shot him or anything. Mr. Satan takes this pretty easily.
 
Sure, what you say is true, and that would describe a pretty easy win for Mr. Satan. That is, if he was bloodlusted. But the events you're describing seem pretty out of character for him to do, though, since he is in-character in this fight. He tends to attempt to make a show for himself when entering a fight, especially in the instance here since it's in the arena for the World Martial Arts Tournament, and he won't be going all out in terms of speed to attack. Otherwise, he'd be blitzing all his matches, and that seems a bit out of character.

Still though, I will accept your vote.
 
Starter Pack said:
Sure, what you say is true, and that would describe a pretty easy win for Mr. Satan. That is, if he was bloodlusted. But the events you're describing seem pretty out of character for him to do, though, since he is in-character in this fight. He tends to attempt to make a show for himself when entering a fight, especially in the instance here since it's in the arena for the World Martial Arts Tournament, and he won't be going all out in terms of speed to attack. Otherwise, he'd be blitzing all his matches, and that seems a bit out of character.
Still though, I will accept your vote.
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Yeah, he'll probably taunt the Koopa before he begins to fight, but the Koopa isn't going to retreat into it's shell just because Satan is taunting him. The description specifically states that they are no holds barred, which means Satan is going to be using his full strength. Plus, this clearly isn't just a regular match in the WMA tournament, considering he's fighting to kill and there are no ring outs. It's a lot more like the Cell Games, where he tried to defeat Cell in a single punch. And even in the WMA tournament, he only plays with his opponents when they're much weaker than him. If they're evenly matched he'll try to end it as quickly as possible. And even when he's fighting someone much weaker than him, he doesn't hold back or intentionally get hit or anything. He'll act flashy and show off, but he isn't pulling his punches either.
 
Superweeb2987 said:
Do people not realize Satan has a massive speed advantage? Like, Koopa isn't touching him.
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Subsonic is literally a smidge above Superhuman. "Massive" isn't the word here. "Slight" is more likely.
 
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