World Martial Arts champion fights a Vtuber (Hercule Satan vs Hoshimachi Suisei) GRACE

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

He is the kinda guy to get scard of a chainsaw and immediately go all out because of it, finish them off because they can hurt him

Still his AP is likely either likely his tile chop or what goldenscorpions said

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

we’re basing off his AP based on his durability.

edit:

Spoiler: The cell thing you guys mentioned

From the picture of the standing Cell,

Observable Cell height (whole) = 890 px = 2.13 m

Observable Cell height (head to waist) = 328 px = 0.7850 m

Observable Cell width = 352 px = 0.8424 m

From the picture of Cell slapping Hercule to a hill,

Observable Cell height (head to waist) = 150 px = 0.7850 m

Observable width of Hercule stuck on a hill = 6.32455532 px = 0.7718 m

By angular formula,

2atan(tan(70/2)*(Hercule width/Cell head-to-waist height)) = 0.039950251 (rad)

Actual horizontal distance from Cell to Hercule =
0.7718 / 2 / TAN(0.039950251/2) = 19.31619449 m

Estimated falling height = 181 px = 22.08754413 m

Actual displacement = (19.31619449 ^ 2 + 22.08754413 ^ 2)^0.5 = 29.34237508 m

Time elapsed = 2 s (there are extra 0.5s for making a "kong" sound but by then Hercule was in a still motion)

Speed = 29.34237508m / 2s = 14.67118754 m/s

KE = 1/2 x Hercule mass x speed^2 = 0.5 x 94 x 14.67118754^2 = 10116.45596 J

Since sending Hercule up also gains PE on Earth,

PE = mgh = 94 x 9.81 x 22.08754413 = 20367.80794 J

Total energy taken by Hercule on being hit by Cell = 10116.45596 J + 20367.80794 J = 30484.2639 J (Wall level)

Surprisingly low --- especially when compared to Hercule's tile breaking feat.

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

“i'm voting suisei
Mostly cause mr satan only scales AP = Dura with his tile chop not him getting punched into a wall”


As @Ikelaggan said

And also what @GoldenScorpions said

“Even if you want to scale Mr Satan's AP to his durability (I'm not convinced on that), it's 896.5 KJ vs 921 KJ, which is 2.8% higher. It's so close that it doesn't matter.
I'm more inclined to take his actual AP feat of 651.2 KJ, which puts Suisei at 38% higher.

Beyond those, though, Suisei has longer range, has far better stamina feats, is smarter, has much higher LS, and she can size-shift to mess up with Mr Satan. His only advantage is better combat skill, which I don't feel is enough here. Combat skill or not, a chainsaw is a chainsaw.

Voting for Suisei.”

 

[God900]

Voting Satan FRA

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

Voting Satan FRA

Did you not see @GoldenScorpions arguments

 

[God900]

Did you not see @GoldenScorpions arguments

Ah yes my bad, I thought Satan had a chance, but skimming a bit more through it, It seems Suisei most likely wins this, hands down

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

Ah yes my bad, I thought Satan had a chance, but skimming a bit more through it, It seems Suisei most likely wins this, hands down

That’s okay we all make mistskes

 

[pineappleman]

I'm scaling Satan's AP off of Dynamite Kick as I previously stated, so my vote won't change really

Mr satan does not have reaction speed either

also would he start with dynamite kick? (He isn’t bloodlusted here)

As for reaction speed, Mr. Satan dodged a rocket launcher point blank even while getting caught off guard, and technically dodged Kid Buu's attacks

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

I'm scaling Satan's AP off of Dynamite Kick as I previously stated, so my vote won't change really



As for reaction speed, Mr. Satan dodged a rocket launcher point blank even while getting caught off guard, and technically dodged Kid Buu's attacks

I don’t see reaction speed on there

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

No, nothing really changes since Mister Satan still has a slightly higher AP. If Mister Satan can disarm her of her weapons, he can easily finish it, which I find more likely due to his martial arts experience.

Is @pineappleman correct? Or do you disagree?

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

Why does Mr Satan's profile not have him surviving Perfect Cell's attack for his durability?
As for AP, a dynamite explosion which Mr Satan's kick is stated to be equivelant in power to is in the bare minimum in the megajoules, so he AP stomps.
Does equal speed equalize reaction speed as well? If not, I think Satan takes the win confidently



Seeing as Satan didn't back down and charged a dude holding a gun at him, I doubt he'd skiddaddle from a chainsaw

Talk to Goldenscorpions and Cisco and see what they think

 

[GoldenScorpions]

I mean, I don't know much about Mr. Satan as a character. I'm simply going with what the profile mentions. I'm unaware if there's missing or incorrect things.

 

[Vizer04]

Suisei FRA

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

Mr. Satan scales to his durability, and he survived that punch without any injury at that (though it did caused him pain)

No idea why the argument that for some reason he doesn't scale to his own durability
Even if you want to scale Mr Satan's AP to his durability (I'm not convinced on that), it's 896.5 KJ vs 921 KJ, which is 2.8% higher. It's so close that it doesn't matter.

I'm more inclined to take his actual AP feat of 651.2 KJ, which puts Suisei at 38% higher.

Why wouldn't he scale to his durability??? I don't see you even addressing that, and if you really want to debunk the satan argument, then explain why that wouldn't work

Also:

Are you going to change your vote?

This is very unprofessional of you OP. The whole point of debating is that arguments are presented and people chooses who they think wins. Just because someone made an argument for her doesn't mean Mr. Satan's votes are invalid, so I have no idea why you even removed them

Overall this feels pretty sus to me

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

Mr. Satan scales to his durability, and he survived that punch without any injury at that (though it did caused him pain)

No idea why the argument that for some reason he doesn't scale to his own durability
Even if you want to scale Mr Satan's AP to his durability (I'm not convinced on that), it's 896.5 KJ vs 921 KJ, which is 2.8% higher. It's so close that it doesn't matter.

Why wouldn't he scale to his durability??? I don't see you even addressing that, and if you really want to debunk the satan argument, then explain why that wouldn't work

Also:

This is very unprofessional of you OP. The whole point of debating is that arguments are presented and people chooses who they think wins. Just because someone made an argument for her doesn't mean Mr. Satan's votes are invalid, so I have no idea why you even removed them

Overall this feels pretty sus to me

The votes were added after grace period started. I can add them back if you want

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

The votes for mister satan to be exact

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

The votes were added after grace period started. I can add them back if you want

You very much should

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

You very much should

Done