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Tarmiel's Ocean Proper Calc (Please Comment)

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There has been some recent Discussion on the proper way to calc the Ocean Feat used in Seven Deadly Sins by Tarmiel, for example the current calc we used to scale is this one...

Current:https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...rmiel_Makes_an_Ocean_Calc_-_Nanatsu_no_Taizai

However some have pointed out that there is No actual horizon in this calc, and therefore can't be used However there are 2 other calcs for the feat that also might be usable

Calc 1:https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:GalaxianAegis/Sariel_and_Tarmiel_Ride_The_Big_One Calc 2:https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:DodoNova2/The_Domain_of_God_-_Nanatsu_no_Taizai

The question is, which one is usable, Maybe the original one is, and we're just overthinking it, but it has been a large discussion so It would be great if Calc members could get on this, and give their opinion
 
You might want to directly message some members of the calc group to get their attention.
 
Yes, you should message some calc group members in situations like this.
 
The second calc looks far more reasonable than the first, i believe we already discussed it not being a real ocean sized ocean in the comments and i stand by that, 5 meters seems fine unless someone can find a way to scale it.
 
The counter seems reasonable though, there really is no horizon as Nakaba just didn't draw it, the distance to horizon cuts out before the end of the panel on that page.

Though we should wait for Raven to make a comment before any changes.
 
Ooh, there is gonna be a lot of people who are gonna be unhappy with this, if Raven Agrees with the downgrade we will have to say goodbye to 6-A Seven Deadly Sins
 
Actually, TataHakai agrees with the second One, so likely still 6-B to High 6-B
 
Wait, TataHakai, did you mean Calc 1 or Calc 2 out of the alternative calcs?

EDIT: Never mind, I've seen your post.
 
Galaxian's is based on "It was suggested to use the Arctic Ocean as a lowball calc" which has no basis whatsoever.
 
Yeah than we will be using Danafor vaporization so High Tiers will be Low 6-B+ to 6-B. Top Tiers will be at least 6-B. God Tiers will probably be High 6-B via multipliers.
 
Have you asked RavenSupreme to comment here?
 
I'll leave scaling and multipliers to NNT fans and knowledgable people on the verse, just here to comment on the calcs.
 
Supreme Beings are God Tiers, since no one else scales to them, Top Tiers would be Mael, Escanor, and Meliodas
 
God Tiers: Supreme Deity and Demon King

Top Tiers: Hawk Mama (Potentially higher), The One Escanor, 3C and 4C Mael, 5C and normal Assault Mode Meliodas, and Full Grown Induras

High Tiers: The Archangels, 2C Mael, New Induras, Zeldris w/ God, Post-Revival Demon Mark Meliodas, and True Form Masters

Mid-High Tiers: Stronger Ten Commandments such as Base Zeldris, Monspeet Derrieri, Drole, Gloxinia, Base Masters, and Unsealed Demon Mark Meliodas

Low-High Tiers: Weaker Ten Commandments Galand, Melascula, Grayroad, And Fraudrin
 
Yeah basically newly transformed Induras like Indura Derrieri And Indura Monspeet are considered New Induras. They are probably weaker than Assault Mode Meliodas. Full grown Induras like Baruja are far stronger than Assault Mode Meliodas and potentially even stronger than Escanor as well.
 
I was made aware of this thread and the discussion regarding some of the scalings on my wall. I will give an in-depth analysis and my opinion on it within the next days. Due to the fact that this is a several blog and calc spanning thing I need to re-read both the feat and blogs first however.

Thanks to all who provide their input on it in the meantime tho, especially calc members or people who generally know more about the verse and its structure than I do.
 
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