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Battle of the Oddities: Elsen vs Shizuri Mugino (8-B Tournament)

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Pastel Burnt Else vs Shizuri Mugino

Fourth fight in the 8-B Tournament going o.

Speed is equalized, both are victorylusted (as in, will employ what they believe will guide them to victory). Starting range of 20 meters.

Who wins? (If Shizuri's matter manip is too OP it can be restricted)

Elsen: 1 (Jackythejack)

Shizuri: 7 (Dargoo Faust, Colonel Krukov, Blahblah9755, Agnaa, Ricsi-viragosi, Phoenix821, TacticalNuke002)

Incon (plz no):
 
Shizuri looks like she can dish out far more damage than Elsen, and she outranges him by a decent amount, meaning that Elsen will be exploded into atoms rather quickly into this battle.
 
Both don't really have much hax, but I'd give to Shizuri for have the better hax of the two.
 
(I'll be honest I added the missing abilities of the Elsen and even I sorta agree, the only thing in Shizuri's way is Elsen's invulnerability, its body tanks Tier 4 attacks with no damage but its INNER body is 8-B dura)
 
It comes out every now and then. Basically, if you look at the Pastel Elsen's page, a round head comes out of its mouth every now and then. Not often, but it does happen.
 
Okay, if it's not often isn't it possible for the Elsen to at least hurt her before it comes out? I'm not saying like destroy her before she gets a chance to hit, but he definitely doesn't get destroyed quickly yeah?

Besides is Pastel considered tougher than Critic Burnt? Which stopped a train or whatever? Because if so he's certainly not too weak.
 
1. Yes. I believe Elsen will be able to attack without being harmed (or at least, not insta-killed).

2. Yes. Pastel is the strongest form in the game (with the possible exception of the Large Elsen, though we never see it fight, we just know that its head fills a large room).
 
Then it's possible to at least wear her out a little in between the times where he's vulnerable. Unless the girl somehow figures out she can't hit him when he's like that, and frankly I'm not too sure. I don't know her that well, but Elsen does have more chances of being practically invulnerable. That being able to withstand Tier 4 attacks is harsh.

Now if only I knew how much stronger a Pastel is compared to a Critic.
 
Okay so... what you're actually looking for is baseline Burnt. These guys can fight off Specters, who are 8-B.

Pastel Burnt >>> Critic Burnt >>> Calvary Burnt >>> Valzong Burnt >>> Regular Burnt
 
Ah, okay, so basically they're a lot, lot better than the specters? That makes things pretty...interesting, honestly.
 
They're better than those specters. The specters are sorta weird. You meet 8-B in world 2 IIRC, in the form of an enormous whale. Then the specters get stronger and then the Burnt and then yeah.

AP wise, the Pastel should be fairly into tier 8-B.
 
I'm gonna give it to Arleen, just because of that level of insane durability and the fact he could probably do some pretty good damage to Shizuri. I'm betting he can incapacitate her at least.
 
"Arleen"

what

But I get what you mean.
 
I vote Meltdowner, body crystal while unstable is enhanced and can shoot meltdowner close to omnidirectional as a shield or make an arm exacty 20m the starting distance. I dont think Elsen can do anything before being reduced to ashes by these or a full power blast which can reach 5km easily.
 
Elsen's invulnerability is at least Tier 4, it can't be burned to ashes in this instance.
 
That doesn't really change anything, has she ever harmed a Tier 4 dura? Because Pastel Elsen's "shell", so to speak, tanked blows from The Batter with zero damage.
 
Nah, however thats not the same as attacks that destroy on the quantum level like meltdowner tho.
 
She isn't noted to surpass durability. Just saying, as her profile stands, she is not able to surpass Tier 4 dura, even with matter manip. Elsen's shell durability is all that is keeping him even somewhat viable here, but still.

I'll add you, but your reasoning with the current profile is sorta... weird.
 
I coulda sworn that was on there last time I checked hmm. Anyways where is the tier 4 stuff on Elsen's profile I don't see it.
 
Invulnerability. Specifically for the Pastel Burnt (the one we're using). It tanks hits from Batter with 0 damage unless the head inside of the other head (weird concept, I know) is showing.
 
Shouldn't his durbaility be higher then? Anyways I retract my vote until I figure out where the durability bypass went.
 
Nah, it's classified as Invulnerability since it is one form's power. But alright.
 
Would Elsen be able to close this battle out?
 
How do you mean?
 
Would Elsen actually be able to take down Shizuri in a reasonable amount of time?

Because if this stalls for even an hour+ Shizuri will probably end up matter manip'ing Elsen's weak spot.
 
Meltdowner bypasses durability by attacking on a quantum level. By default quantum level attacks do that. I vote for Meltdowner here.
 
There's a feasible argument for both sides.

On one side, with Shizuri's intelligence there's a reasonable chance she'll aim for something that's a weak spot, and she may be able to deduce that that's what this is (Batter managed to do it, anyways). On the other hand, Elsen is not by any means required to show this second head, and IIRC generally does so sparingly. Elsen is also able to harm Shizuri, to my knowledge. Pastel Burnt is many degrees of separation from baseline 8-B.

I can't give an opinion either way, but them's the facts.
 
Given Shizuri's intelligence rating "Extraordinary Genius, superior to that of a super-computer and is constantly calculating possible outcomes and means of best exploiting her beam's destructive power. However, she is very arrogant which often clouds her rational judgment." she'd probably figure out to hit the head really quickly, giving her the win.
 
Is that a vote, Agnaa?
 
Doesn't one of them need to be 7 votes ahead for grace to start? Isn't this still 7-1?
 
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