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Yhwach vs obscure Digimon 2
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Does Yhwakawaka resist getting his soul ripped out...or in this case...himself getting ripped out? Are Quincy counted as souls? I'm not a Bleach guy...
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Well MetalPhantomon's can bypass that passively sooo....
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This outta be fun ovo
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I found this while searching for yhwach image..
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You are lucky I can duplicate tabs. I am doing that right now.
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Note: This took longer than I thought as I kinda got....distracted....
MetalPhantomon has some pretty dangerous haxes overall, what makes him even more dangerous is that he does indeed have passives.
Passives
Grave Scream is a passive ability as it always being emitted from his scythe.
Grave Scream: Emits a screaming sound from its scythe that puts enemies to sleep so it can use nightmares to devour their souls. This can also just reap the opponent's souls directly.
MetalPhantomon's Soul abilities are powerful enough to bypass a Digimon's natural defenses to soul based attacks. Also he can also just choose to put Yhwach to sleep and then steal his soul while Yhwach is busy dealing with whatever his worse fears (he's fighting off that plot arrow).
Metal Phantomon has four more potent haxes.
Other abilities
First is the natural ability of all Digimon to attack the mind and soul with their basic attacks. Meaning even Yhwach's mind is not safe from attacks. Also MetalPhantomon actually has gone for controlling his opponent's mind before.
The other and most dangerous ability is Shi no Senkoku. Basically MetalPhantomon says one word and his opponent dies.
Shi no Senkoku/Father Time: Instantly Kills an opponent with a word of death.
Third is Death Charm.
Death Charm: Casts an evil spell of darkness that washes over the enemy and saps away its life.
Finally, is Nightmare Wave which will **** with Yhwach and likely keep him from acting appropriately.
Nightmare Wave: Emits a dark wave that hypnotizes the enemy, amplifying their doubts and driving them mad.
He has Illusions, but I doubt they'd be that useful.
That's basically everything.
MetalPhantomon has some pretty dangerous haxes overall, what makes him even more dangerous is that he does indeed have passives.
Passives
Grave Scream is a passive ability as it always being emitted from his scythe.
| A Cyborg Digimon that fully mechanized the body of the Reaper-like Fantomon. It operates using an energy supply from another dimension's Digital World, and it is even said that its strings are being pulled by someone. Its energy emission-shaped sickle gives off a "Grave Scream", a strange, eerie sound, then reaps souls directly, regardless of any kind of armor or shields. | ||
MetalPhantomon's Soul abilities are powerful enough to bypass a Digimon's natural defenses to soul based attacks. Also he can also just choose to put Yhwach to sleep and then steal his soul while Yhwach is busy dealing with whatever his worse fears (he's fighting off that plot arrow).
Metal Phantomon has four more potent haxes.
Other abilities
First is the natural ability of all Digimon to attack the mind and soul with their basic attacks. Meaning even Yhwach's mind is not safe from attacks. Also MetalPhantomon actually has gone for controlling his opponent's mind before.
The other and most dangerous ability is Shi no Senkoku. Basically MetalPhantomon says one word and his opponent dies.
Shi no Senkoku/Father Time: Instantly Kills an opponent with a word of death.
Third is Death Charm.
Death Charm: Casts an evil spell of darkness that washes over the enemy and saps away its life.
Finally, is Nightmare Wave which will **** with Yhwach and likely keep him from acting appropriately.
Nightmare Wave: Emits a dark wave that hypnotizes the enemy, amplifying their doubts and driving them mad.
He has Illusions, but I doubt they'd be that useful.
That's basically everything.
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Assuming this ain't a stomp due to passives, MetalPhantomon has my vote overall. MetalPhantomon has multiple ways to put Yhwach down and can pretty easily take out his mind body and soul with basic skills.
I think Yhwach can erase someone's entire species and thus erasing powers or something? Maybe I heard/read that completely wrong. However, that won't really work as erasing the Phantomon species, who all are resistant to the effects of the Dark Area is not going to work and regardless, MetalPhantomon comes from a line of Dark Area Digimon with the only loose end being Impmon who isn't even 100% his child form as it could very well be DemiDevimon, whose already nonexistent. Same for Bakemon. Meaning he'd have to go all the way to the baby forms, but even then that assumes this MetalPhantomon in particular didn't start of born as a Bakemon, who is a nonexistent Digimon. Basically, Yhwach will be going through a ton of trial and error, most of which will end in errors more times than not.
Almighty is a major threat overall, but I see MetalPhantomon winning more times than not.
I think Yhwach can erase someone's entire species and thus erasing powers or something? Maybe I heard/read that completely wrong. However, that won't really work as erasing the Phantomon species, who all are resistant to the effects of the Dark Area is not going to work and regardless, MetalPhantomon comes from a line of Dark Area Digimon with the only loose end being Impmon who isn't even 100% his child form as it could very well be DemiDevimon, whose already nonexistent. Same for Bakemon. Meaning he'd have to go all the way to the baby forms, but even then that assumes this MetalPhantomon in particular didn't start of born as a Bakemon, who is a nonexistent Digimon. Basically, Yhwach will be going through a ton of trial and error, most of which will end in errors more times than not.
Almighty is a major threat overall, but I see MetalPhantomon winning more times than not.
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Doesn't really change much honestly.
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Yeah, but I don't see any resistance to getting his soul ripped out or put to sleep/put into a nightmare by Grave Scream. Which is passive. I covered MetalPhantomon's haxes above.
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Actually he should be resistant to Soul Absorbtion / Soul rip. But the Mind stuff might be an issue. I'm gonna go for inconclusive, I really can't tell who wins this.
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MetalPhantomon doesn't even have to look at you. Yhwach just has to be in the area to get his soul ripped out. MetalPhantomon doesn't even have to know you even exist to have Grave Scream just rip your soul out or put you into a nightmare...which also rips your soul out.
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So are all Digimon. MetalPhantomon can bypass that resistance.Knightofannihilation666 said:
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| A Cyborg Digimon that fully mechanized the body of the Reaper-like Fantomon. It operates using an energy supply from another dimension's Digital World, and it is even said that its strings are being pulled by someone. Its energy emission-shaped sickle gives off a "Grave Scream", a strange, eerie sound, then reaps souls directly, regardless of any kind of armor or shields. | ||
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Outside of the Databook (in which are feats themselves) Here are my sources for Grave Scream. This is the best I can do as MetalPhantomon doesn't really appear much. This is the sleep portion of it. The Soul rip is activated the same way.
Grave Scream striking the Protagonists immediately.
His Scythe activating Grave Scream
Grave Scream striking the Protagonists immediately.
His Scythe activating Grave Scream
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That is quite the ability.
Although I still think Yhwach can potentially power null this being,The Almighty allows Yhwach to know this beings abilities,and grants him resistance to those abiites and nullifying it.It is an instant effect.
Would it be possible to deflect this grave scream? he has probability manipulation ability and casuality manipulation ability.
Antithesis (Õ«îÕà¿ÕÅìþ½ï(ÒéóÒâ│ÒâüÒéÁÒâ╝ÒéÀÒé╣), Anchis─üshisu; Japanese for "Perfect Anti-Setup"): Uryü can designate any two targets and completely reverse anything that has already occurred between the two of them. For example, if Uryü were to be greatly injured while fighting an opponent, he could reverse what occurred between himself and his enemy, simultaneously healing himself while grievously wounding his opponent.
The Balance (õ©ûÚûôÞ¬┐ÕÆî (ÒéÂÒâ╗ÒâÉÒâ®Òâ│Òé╣), Za Baransu; Japanese for "World Harmony"): Haschwalth can take the misfortune that occurs within his sphere of influence and disperse it to those that have experienced good fortune, which he believes maintains balance in the world. All the "misfortune" that would occur to him personally is redirected into his Freund Schild; consequently, all "good fortune" that an opponent experiences in inflicting wounds upon him will be wreaked back upon them in equal magnitude as "misfortune", and the "misfortune" that he experiences merely gets deflected and absorbed into his Freund Schild, causing his opponent to experience even more "misfortune".
Wouldn't the grave scream simply be countered.
Although I still think Yhwach can potentially power null this being,The Almighty allows Yhwach to know this beings abilities,and grants him resistance to those abiites and nullifying it.It is an instant effect.
Would it be possible to deflect this grave scream? he has probability manipulation ability and casuality manipulation ability.
Antithesis (Õ«îÕà¿ÕÅìþ½ï(ÒéóÒâ│ÒâüÒéÁÒâ╝ÒéÀÒé╣), Anchis─üshisu; Japanese for "Perfect Anti-Setup"): Uryü can designate any two targets and completely reverse anything that has already occurred between the two of them. For example, if Uryü were to be greatly injured while fighting an opponent, he could reverse what occurred between himself and his enemy, simultaneously healing himself while grievously wounding his opponent.
The Balance (õ©ûÚûôÞ¬┐ÕÆî (ÒéÂÒâ╗ÒâÉÒâ®Òâ│Òé╣), Za Baransu; Japanese for "World Harmony"): Haschwalth can take the misfortune that occurs within his sphere of influence and disperse it to those that have experienced good fortune, which he believes maintains balance in the world. All the "misfortune" that would occur to him personally is redirected into his Freund Schild; consequently, all "good fortune" that an opponent experiences in inflicting wounds upon him will be wreaked back upon them in equal magnitude as "misfortune", and the "misfortune" that he experiences merely gets deflected and absorbed into his Freund Schild, causing his opponent to experience even more "misfortune".
Wouldn't the grave scream simply be countered.
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That's pretty NLF to say that he just sees and gains a resistance to all his opponent's abilities overall.
Probability Manipulation could help. but even then, he kinda has to be alive/awake to do so. By the time Grave Scream hits, it's over. The issue is that this sound is constantly being made and so the barrier my save him for a split second, just for his soul to get ripped out/or be put to sleep in the next. This Probability Manipulation doesn't seem as potent as Digimon's ow Miracle Creation skills based upon the description. So by the time Yhwach even thinks to use said barrier, it's highly likely his soul will already be taken/or he would be put to sleep. Also let's say that Grave Scream is somehow reflected. It won't affect him....unless he uses the sleep portion.
Basically, both these abilities are fine, but they also are very likely to fail against Grave Scream as it is both passive and continuous.
Probability Manipulation could help. but even then, he kinda has to be alive/awake to do so. By the time Grave Scream hits, it's over. The issue is that this sound is constantly being made and so the barrier my save him for a split second, just for his soul to get ripped out/or be put to sleep in the next. This Probability Manipulation doesn't seem as potent as Digimon's ow Miracle Creation skills based upon the description. So by the time Yhwach even thinks to use said barrier, it's highly likely his soul will already be taken/or he would be put to sleep. Also let's say that Grave Scream is somehow reflected. It won't affect him....unless he uses the sleep portion.
Basically, both these abilities are fine, but they also are very likely to fail against Grave Scream as it is both passive and continuous.
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The 1st one does need to be activated correct,but The Balance is 50/50 in my opinion.
can take the misfortune that occurs within his sphere of influence and disperse it to those that have experienced good fortune, which he believes maintains balance in the world. the "misfortune" that would occur to him personally is redirected into his Freund Schild.
This should always be active.
can take the misfortune that occurs within his sphere of influence and disperse it to those that have experienced good fortune, which he believes maintains balance in the world. the "misfortune" that would occur to him personally is redirected into his Freund Schild.
This should always be active.
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In series, did Yhwach always have this ability active?
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The Balance.
Also it is NLF. Are you telling me if he fought the 3-D version of this guy, or this guy, or this guy, he'd gain the resistance of his abilities, because he knows them? (These guys have higher power, but the principal is the exact same) That's NLF.
Also it is NLF. Are you telling me if he fought the 3-D version of this guy, or this guy, or this guy, he'd gain the resistance of his abilities, because he knows them? (These guys have higher power, but the principal is the exact same) That's NLF.
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It's NLF, that's what it is. You're basically saying "No matter how strong you are, I see your powers and gain them as well as a resistance on your level" without the proper feats to back that up. That's pure NLF.
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NLF like I have been saying. To put into perspective. Jesmon has an ability that while not exactly the same, but something just as insane.
Jesmo can overwrite his data to completely nullify anything his opponents do to him and gain enough power to literally one shot them. This is a feat that while unseen on screen, has been reported directly by researchers who have spent years researching Jesmon. So it's something that has indeed shown its potency. Despite this, I cannot say that as a 3-C, he can suddenly use OS Generics on a 3-A and immediately one shot him + nullify everything he does simply because "That's how it works". It's NLF.
This principal applies to Yhwach. If he his opponent is a great deal above him, he should simply be able to say "lolresistance" or in this case "lolimmunity" as you are basically not going to be affected by his opponent's powers. The NLF.
Jesmo can overwrite his data to completely nullify anything his opponents do to him and gain enough power to literally one shot them. This is a feat that while unseen on screen, has been reported directly by researchers who have spent years researching Jesmon. So it's something that has indeed shown its potency. Despite this, I cannot say that as a 3-C, he can suddenly use OS Generics on a 3-A and immediately one shot him + nullify everything he does simply because "That's how it works". It's NLF.
This principal applies to Yhwach. If he his opponent is a great deal above him, he should simply be able to say "lolresistance" or in this case "lolimmunity" as you are basically not going to be affected by his opponent's powers. The NLF.
