Yhwach vs Kars

[Arcker123]

A yhwach clone would never actually get close enough to do that wincon due to the almighty. Yhwach would simply foresee the meger sponge and use any number of his hax to avoid it.

 

[Livinmeme]

another yhwach comes to "fight Yhwach

what

 

[Kazuma_kuwabara]

what

He is basically watered down lavos

 

[Livinmeme]

He is basically watered down lavos

Lavos doesn't come to fight Lavos

 

[Kazuma_kuwabara]

Lavos doesn't come to fight Lavos

Nor you understand what I posted it seems

 

[Adam1396]

Kars dies once

Kars in another universe uses D4C ultimate and another yhwach comes to "fight Yhwach"

Both die, no way Yhwach can survive a transmutation based on a "fact of the world"

Yhwach does not have 4D range and the donwplay of Kars here is inmense, also, this fight was made in the past and is inconclusive, Kars is absurd to kill and Yhwach lacks range to do it

Yes and a lot thing changed since then. Jojo wank has been there for quite a long time. Kars have no way of killing yhwach. What do ya smoke

 

[Kazuma_kuwabara]

Yes and a lot thing changed since then. Jojo wank has been there for quite a long time. Kars have no way of killing yhwach. What do ya smoke

And yhwach can't kill Kars either?

Bleach Wank--> Jojo Wank buddy

 

[Livinmeme]

Yes and a lot thing changed since then. Jojo wank has been there for quite a long time. Kars have no way of killing yhwach. What do ya smoke

What verse got specific rules to avoid wankery?

 

[Robo432343]

but D4C is the one with 2-A range not all mighty
Range: Standard Melee Range, Tens of Meters with his revolver, Several Meters with D4C, Multiversal+ with D4C's Dimensional Travel |

 

[Livinmeme]

I think we all can agree that Goku solos

 

[Robo432343]

no

 

[Livinmeme]

yes

I concur. So that is 2 votes for Goku

 

[Adam1396]

And yhwach can't kill Kars either?

Bleach Wank--> Jojo Wank buddy

Oh yeah he can. New kars comes and gets fodderised instantly, then next one comes and gets repeated. Though he can just cause permanent effect and affect infinite timeline.

The fact that many jojo vs bleach match ups has been made despite building level jojo fodders getting destroyed by bleach passive shows a lot about which verse is actually wanked.

 

[Livinmeme]

Oh yeah he can. New kars comes and gets fodderised instantly, then next one comes and gets repeated. Though he can just cause permanent effect and affect infinite timeline.

The fact that many jojo vs bleach match ups has been made despite building level jojo fodders getting destroyed by bleach passive shows a lot about which verse is actually wanked.

Just say that Yhwach has tier 0+++++++ hax. That would be equally as wrong compared to your wank, if we bother going by the profile

 

[Adam1396]

A yhwach clone would never actually get close enough to do that wincon due to the almighty. Yhwach would simply foresee the meger sponge and use any number of his hax to avoid it.

He can just prevent it from happening or null kar's arsenal

 

[Robo432343]

He can just prevent it from happening or null kar's arsenal

he doesn't have the range to do that remember

 

[Adam1396]

Not accepted

You actually are a living meme.
Read my reply again.
Anyway multi+ almighty is just pending for different reason. Not that it was not accepted or invalid. And wait for cosmology revision. Since you talked as if things were supposed to be in kar's profile. I answered in similar fashion.

Those were rejected like 2 year ago dude, Ywach having smurf hax isn't a thing anymore

Yhwach literally has aca 4 on his current profile

 

[Robo432343]

You actually are a living meme.
Read my reply again.
Anyway multi+ almighty is just pending for different reason. Not that it was not accepted or invalid. And wait for cosmology revision. Since you talked as if things were supposed to be in kar's profile. I answered in similar fashion.

Yhwach literally has it on his current profile

no bro 2-A yhwach is rejected

Bleach - Yhwach 2-A Almighty Range Revision Thread.

The purpose of this CRT is to firmly establish whether or not the almighty qualifies for the 2-A range rating that it currently possesses. I suggest that before any big arguments break out in this thread that the people who are positing either side of the argument take a moment to gather their...

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[Adam1396]

he doesn't have the range to do that remember

Ok let's ignore what yhwach should have, I mean all materials manga, anime, novel etc. Just discuss what he has on this wiki.

He doesn’t need to have range to null that as he nulled way more abstract abilities.

Yhwach sees all possibilities. Those kars are still part of possibilities.

Yhwach rewrites the reality and all possibilities so that kars can't switch.
Or yhwach modifies battle ground to shut down Dimension Traveling.

Yhwach absorbs one of the kars and achieves the range.

 

[Adam1396]

no bro 2-A yhwach is rejected

Bleach - Yhwach 2-A Almighty Range Revision Thread.

The purpose of this CRT is to firmly establish whether or not the almighty qualifies for the 2-A range rating that it currently possesses. I suggest that before any big arguments break out in this thread that the people who are positing either side of the argument take a moment to gather their...

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Read the thread hobo.
There's no new argument made for this is because arck, decieved would revisit the content along with others after animation is done. That's why I used the word pending.

 

[Robo432343]

He doesn’t need to have range to null that as he nulled way more abstract abilities.

He needs range. Just because he has nulled better stuff does not mean he can null something that is 2-A range away from him wtf

its like saying i can null something that is 2-A range away from me just because i nulled a type 2 concept wtf

Yhwach sees all possibilities. Those kars are still part of possibilities.

he cant see 2-A possibilities anymore

Yhwach rewrites the reality and all possibilities so that kars can't switch.

that is only extended to his range

thats why this fight is incon

Yhwach absorbs one of the kars and achieves the range.

wtf is this

 

[Adam1396]

wtf is this

He makes D4C his own along with all other kars abilities

 

[Kazuma_kuwabara]

He makes D4C his own along with all other kars abilities

Kars understand Yhwach and get his abilities, inconclusive, end of the argument, don't care about others opinions

 

[Robo432343]

Kars understand Yhwach and get his abilities, inconclusive, end of the argument, don't care about others opinions

wait are you saying if Yhwach kills Kars, there will be another version of Kars in an alternate universe?

 

[Kazuma_kuwabara]

wait are you saying if Yhwach kills Kars, there will be another version of Kars in an alternate universe?

Yes, that is how he works

 

[Robo432343]

Yes, that is how he works

then doesn't that mean Kars just wins?? Yhwach doesn't have the range to kill all the alternate versions of Kars
so Kars can just do whatever he wants

 

[Kazuma_kuwabara]

then doesn't that mean Kars just wins?? Yhwach doesn't have the range to kill all the alternate versions of Kars
so Kars can just do whatever he wants

Yhwach seems to be also absurdly impossible to kill even if Kars copy his powers, as Yhwach would just resist himself too

And if we go by "Kars outlives" route, Yhwach just reshapes his universe via his plans and as the new god, he would not die, so both can't die= inconclusive

 

[Livinmeme]

Yhwach doesn't resist ******* SI, which is strong enough to make someone stand (more or less the "soul" of someone"), to leave his user

 

[Adam1396]

All these jojo fans profile should be livingmeme 1,2,3,4......
They are genuine meme

 

[Kazuma_kuwabara]

All these jojo fans profile should be livingmeme 1,2,3,4......
They are genuine meme

Keep this rate and you are reported

 

[AmonInChains]

I'm still convinced that Novel Kars matchups are a bad idea
But since you took a step...

First of all, could i get where says that Reiatsu do physical damage? I searched but the only thing was the hax thing from Soul Physiology:

Aura (Overwhelming, Fear Inducement, Materialized and Explosive: Reiatsu induces a plethora of different aliments/effects onto those that affected by it like Soul Manipulation[15], Paralysis Inducement[17], Fear Manipulation[18] and many others)

Maybe it's my fault, but I would like someone to guide me

 

[Robo432343]

I'm still convinced that Novel Kars matchups are a bad idea
But since you took a step...

First of all, could i get where says that Reiatsu do physical damage? I searched but the only thing was the hax thing from Soul Physiology:



Maybe it's my fault, but I would like someone to guide me

ok

Reiatsu is the spiritual pressure that a being emits from his body or soul constantly/passively.
Reiatsu can causes various effects such as fear, paralysis, hallucinations, make your brain shut down, and ultimately destroy completely your soul. Additionaly, Soul crush will not allow you to reach your opponent and put you into various hallucinations of not strong enough. The range and the power of this effects are based on the difference in spiritual energy or latent soul strenght of the various subjects, it can also be related to the difference in sheer spiritual power or your spiritual resistances.
As we saw above, Reiatsu is a constant flux that generate from one's body. A concrete example of this is Starkk, which was doomed to be alone because he could not do anything about his passive reiatsu and he was passively killing all his hollows friends even if he didnt want to kill them. Another example is Sosuke Aizen, which was passively killing Humans souls by walking, and while sealed he was erasing shinigami that tried to get near him. (this can work as a barrier too)

The passive Reiatsu effects are applied to who is by far weaker than the user/or who does not have spiritual resistences/energy to defends the Soul.

The Active Reiatsu, is basically the passive, but extremely more powerful, since can attains power from one's total energy. One example of active reiastu is Aizen flexing a litlle of his spiritual pressure, and make Grimmjown on his kneel, unable to move or even think correctly , basically this can be used even as a continuos AOE blast too. Worth to mention that Grimmjow at the start was even stronger than Ichigo and one of the strongest espada.


but i don't think any of this matters because of D4C

 

[AmonInChains]

Thanks you, but in which page it's stated that?
I just Google'd it and comes from another wikia

 

[Robo432343]

Thanks you, but in which page it's stated that?

its from another wiki

 

[Hellscream]

Kars understand Yhwach and get his abilities, inconclusive, end of the argument, don't care about others opinions

Wait it's almost like The almighty grants Yhwach precognition that allows him to view an unlimited amount of possibilites, which he can affect all at the same time, he for sure wouldn't be able to nullify the entire arsenal of kars abilities as soon as the fight starts.

Even if kars comes with an alternate version from another universe it's irrelevant, as like i said Yhwach knows every possibility that will happen, and guy has interdimensional range.

Let alone when Yhwach absorbs kars, which he does in character and gains all of his powers.

And of course there's always reiatsu crush

 

[AmonInChains]

its from another wiki

Then, Reiatsu Crush isn't accepted as AP here?

 

[Adam1396]

Keep this rate and you are reported

You have yet to answer some arguments.
Like what kars gonna do after yhwach gets the range upon absorbing kars.
Or whar would he do when yhwach modifies the battlefield to restrict DT!!
Sorry I just notice she / her. If I would have noticed it earlier, I wouldn’t been making arguments lol.

 

[Adam1396]

ok

Reiatsu is the spiritual pressure that a being emits from his body or soul constantly/passively.
Reiatsu can causes various effects such as fear, paralysis, hallucinations, make your brain shut down, and ultimately destroy completely your soul. Additionaly, Soul crush will not allow you to reach your opponent and put you into various hallucinations of not strong enough. The range and the power of this effects are based on the difference in spiritual energy or latent soul strenght of the various subjects, it can also be related to the difference in sheer spiritual power or your spiritual resistances.
As we saw above, Reiatsu is a constant flux that generate from one's body. A concrete example of this is Starkk, which was doomed to be alone because he could not do anything about his passive reiatsu and he was passively killing all his hollows friends even if he didnt want to kill them. Another example is Sosuke Aizen, which was passively killing Humans souls by walking, and while sealed he was erasing shinigami that tried to get near him. (this can work as a barrier too)

The passive Reiatsu effects are applied to who is by far weaker than the user/or who does not have spiritual resistences/energy to defends the Soul.

The Active Reiatsu, is basically the passive, but extremely more powerful, since can attains power from one's total energy. One example of active reiastu is Aizen flexing a litlle of his spiritual pressure, and make Grimmjown on his kneel, unable to move or even think correctly , basically this can be used even as a continuos AOE blast too. Worth to mention that Grimmjow at the start was even stronger than Ichigo and one of the strongest espada.


but i don't think any of this matters because of D4C

You forgot to add that significantly stronger reatsu can even negate soul crush resistance

 

[Robo432343]

Wait it's almost like The almighty grants Yhwach precognition that allows him to view an unlimited amount of possibilites, which he can affect all at the same time, he for sure wouldn't be able to nullify the entire arsenal of kars abilities as soon as the fight starts.

Even if kars comes with an alternate version from another universe it's irrelevant, as like i said Yhwach knows every possibility that will happen, and guy has interdimensional range.

Let alone when Yhwach absorbs kars, which he does in character and gains all of his powers.

And of course there's always reiatsu crush

Yes Yhwach will know about Kars alternative universe thing but he cant do anything about it because of the range issue
he will never be able to reach the alternate universes, interdimensional range isn't enough
just coz he knows about the universes, doesn't mean he can stop it
thats why the match is incon

 

[Robo432343]

You forgot to add that significantly stronger reatsu can even negate soul crush resistance

yes