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Samus Aran vs Ainz Ooal Gown

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<Extend magic, time Stop

<Extend Magic, the goal of all life is death

<Grasp Heart

Good game
 
Im not sure if you implied the consecutive use of those three spells. But I can tell you for sure that Ainz aint starting with TGoALiD.
 
PaChi2 said:
Im not sure if you implied the consecutive use of those three spells. But I can tell you for sure that Ainz aint starting with TGoALiD.
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I'm almost certain that he would have started the match with Shalltear with TGoAliD, if he hadn't had knowledge about her special skills and the resurrection item. He is one of those types who want to finish the fight as quickly as possible, if he do not have knowledge.
 
@William

And Im almost certain that Ainz wouldnt start out with an ability that renders him incapable of retalitating for 12 seconds if he doesnt have knowledge on his opponent.
 
PaChi2 said:
@William
And Im almost certain that Ainz wouldnt start out with an ability that renders him incapable of retalitating for 12 seconds if he doesnt have knowledge on his opponent.
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That's true, i guess. He is not so reckless. In fact, this is very situational.
 
Gargoyle One said:
Didn't he grasp Heart against Fodder?
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Yeah, yeah. He would undoubtefuly grasp heart everyone asap.

We are talking about TGoALiD.
 
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Wasn't Ainz considered the strongest 6-C character with speed equalization?

Anyway, Samus leads with Precognition and scanners; the scanners give her complete analysis on not just the biology and technology, but also super natural features. Meaning it gives her info on various hax abilities. Samus also has a distinctive range advantage; being Stellar range. SBA puts them at 4 kilometers apart. Samus can also has her Wave Beam and Ice Beam; Wave Beam bypasses all walls, barriers, and armor and targets lifeforms; can also target Intangible beings of elemental, Immaterial, and Spatial variety. Ice Beam is also extremely potent and can freeze targets to Nigh-Absolute Zero temperature; she even completely froze the sun with one shot. Samus can also spam her Ice Beam/Wave Beam combination with infinite ammo.

As for resistances, Samus has resistance to most of Ainz elements; especially Fire and Ice. She can resist her own Ice Beam's cold, and withstood the heat from the sun's core. And also given that Samus lived on a 960 G environment since she was 3, gravity manipulation ain't doing much either. Insane gravity on that level should also have a strong correlation to good wind and Earth manipulation; at least the pressure parts of those. I'm not sure if being able to harm characters with Spatial intangibility counts for some form of Spatial manipulation, so whether or not she has resistance to that is speculation. Samus doesn't have phase drift, and she doesn't seem to have a counter to Ainz's time stop. Samus also to Soul manipulation, but Death Manipulation, I know there are different categories, but not sure how Ainz's work. Samus also has resistance to planetary mind manipulation; (Baseline planet levelish according to SD's revision for this key).

Anyway, Samus is far more tactical and ranged, but being more tactical doesn't always help against Ainz level of hax. Ainz does have a 3x stronger power advantage, as well as better hax overall. Reality Warping and Time Manipulation are his trump cards, but that depends on whether or not he uses those in character? Also, how long does Ainz stop time for? It really depends on whether or not he uses those abilities in character. If not, Samus could bombard him with Stellar AoE Ice Beam while Moonwalking at massive speeds to freeze him to Nigh AZ temperatures. But if he does lead with time stop, then Samus may use Electro Barrier to protect herself, but Ainz might be able to hit her enough times to drain all her Aieon while time is stopped. Ainz does have the advantage once Time Stop enables him to get closer.

Won't vote yet, at least until I have more info on what Ainz leads with.
 
"Wasn't Ainz considered the strongest 6-C character?"

That never happened.
 
@PaChi, oh nevermind then, but someone did mention him. Forgot to say "with speed equal" though and edited in my previous comment.

Anyway, what does Ainz lead with again?
 
Gargoyle One said:
<Extend magic, time Stop

<Extend Magic, the goal of all life is death

<Grasp Heart

Good game
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@Medeus Remove TGoALiD and maybe we could add Death.

Also take into account that Ainz has passive death inducement as well as passive mindhax.
 
So he does lead with time stop, and how long does his time stop last? Also, Samus has resistance to internal organ damaging; once again, due to trading blows with SA-X who combines plasma Beam, Ice Beam, and Wave Beam to negate durability. Samus may not have plasma beam to cause internal organ damaging, but she still resists it.

However, I suppose I'll have to lean towards Ainz. But now I have to file a Rule Violations report for making me vote against my waifu
 
DarkDragonMedeus said:
So he does lead with time stop, and how long does his time stop last? Also, Samus has resistance to internal organ damaging; once again, due to trading blows with SA-X who combines plasma Beam, Ice Beam, and Wave Beam to negate durability. Samus may not have plasma beam to cause internal organ damaging, but she still resists it.

However, I suppose I'll have to lean towards Ainz. But now I have to file a Rule Violations report for making me vote against my waifu
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Grasp heart paralyzes the foe if they are not instantly killed. I dont remember the exact limit for his timestop.

And I fully understand that you must report this in the RV thread. I feel you, man. Such pain and sorrow ovo
 
Ainz has resistance to the Information Analysis. Rather, he blocks it through equipment.

Ring that protects the user from detection by all kinds of divination-type magic.

She, of course, can scan him, but it is unlikely that she will get an exhaustive knowledge about his magical tricks.

Grasp Heart is classified as Death Manip. It instakills no matter that.

About the time-stop, it's more difficult. We do not know the diameter of the action zone, nor how long it is active. Only speculations. Maybe couple of minutes - maximum. However, Ainz can spam the time-stop in a combat situation.
 
Resistance to Information Analysis is not really a thing, and resistance ends at this. Resistance to Poison, Disease, Sleep, Paralysis, Physical Impediment, Necromancy, Energy Drain, and Mind Manipulation.
 
I'm sure this ring played a decisive factor in the losing game with Darquesse, which was transferred to inconclusive, after bringing it as an argument. It does not appear in the ability graph, but it still exists.

In Overlord there is a darkness of classes, specializing in exploration, information mining, information analysis, scanning of the terrain, e.t.c

In-universe, this ring belongs to the highest rank of an object of this type (information-analysis blocking), so I do not see any problems with it.
 
DarkDragonMedeus said:
So he does lead with time stop, and how long does his time stop last? Also, Samus has resistance to internal organ damaging; once again, due to trading blows with SA-X who combines plasma Beam, Ice Beam, and Wave Beam to negate durability. Samus may not have plasma beam to cause internal organ damaging, but she still resists it.

However, I suppose I'll have to lean towards Ainz. But now I have to file a Rule Violations report for making me vote against my waifu
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Resistance to Durability negation isn't a thing at all.
 
I mean, Ainz can use False data magic which makes trying to analyze him more difficult (Shalltear battle for reference).
 
Aain's Favor:
Despair Aura I-V : Has the means to ignore higher level character's immunity to the effects, and Samus has legit issues when dealing with Fear even discounting Other M.
Grasp Heart: While the Power Suit runs on "Will Power and Space Bird Magic", Samus has shown no real immunity to magic effects or Teleportation effects (Essentually what that is, just more finite and localized)
False Life, Perfect Unknowable, Anti-Information Magic Wall: Being use to PVP, he has the means to hide information from his opponents with ease. Would negate her Scan Visor easily.
Time Stop: While limited, it would still give him a huge advantage.

Samus's Favor:
Fire and Bludgeoning Weakness : Plasma Beam would definitely count on that. Missiles and Bombs would too, especially since they act as both. He could just change clothes to negate this, but still an inherent disadvantage.
Immunity to Most of his Spells: Life Drain, Fire, Ice, Acid, Gravity, Lighting... Most of his actual combat spells wouldn't do jack. Even the 9th & 10th lvl variants aren't much to write home about to her as she has tanked worst then he has dished out in that regard.
Summons: Pretty much anything he summons would be useless and would be oblitorated immediately.


If speed wasn't equalized, Samus would blitz and take him out almost instantly. However since they are at equal speeds, he can teleport as well as stop time to close the gap and Grasp Heart is stated to be his prefered spell, I don't see much in the way of chance for Samus. Not quite a stomp but clearly in his favor thanks to his hax working well against her while her's doesn't in return.
 
Never said resistance to durability negation on this thread; and I'll admit that I worded it wrong in the past, but that was how SD worded it a long time ago. Also, Samus still resists dozens of hax abilities that negate durability as well.

Still, this is concluded a decisive win, so I guess I can close the thread and we can add it.
 
Sorry for the delay, but I was in a recent conversation with SomebodyData. I have to reopen the thread to debunk every single one of these votes with one simple reason. The range was never even considered. Standard Battle Assumptions says that both combatants starts pretty far away, but at most 4 kilometers. Ainz's range is only hundreds of meters, which means Ainz would have to get close enough to use time stop, grasp heart, ect. And his teleportation can only get him that far as well.

Samus on the other hand can spam Stellar AoE Ice Beams while moonwalking at great speeds. Since speed is equalized, both characters are Hypersonic Assuming Mach 5 is both characters speed now, Samus would be spamming 172.413793103 Ice Beams every second. Given Reactions page. She can shoot every 0.0058 seconds with speed equalization. Would be shooting every no more than 0.00000294 seconds or at least 340136.054422 rounds per second without speed equalization.

So anyway, Samus spams Stellar AoE Ice Beams while doing a Super Cool Moonwalk Micheal Jackson style. Even though it's a bad pun to use the word Cool here
 
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