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Son Goku vs Mewtwo (Read OP)

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Mewtwo is only, and I mean only, limited to things shown in the core games. Only level-up moves and the abilities for that form. Which means most of Mewtwo's hax, including mind stuff, becomes null.

Mega Mewtwo X vs Saiyan Saga Goku. Speed equalized

To be clear, that leaves Mewtwo with Martial Arts, Elasticity, Fear Inducement, (the prior things don't come from moves, but are from the core games nonetheless) the ability Steadfast, and these following moves:

Laser Focus, Psywave, Confusion, Disable, Safeguard, Swift, Future Sight, Psych Up, Miracle Eye, Psycho Cut, Power Swap, Guard Swap, Recover, Psychic, Barrier, Aura Sphere, Amnesia, Mist, Me First, and Psystrike

If it's still a stomp, I'll either change Goku to Saitama or Saiyan Saga Vegeta (because they're stronger), or change Mewtwo to Rayquaza.

Mega mewtwo x
Goku kaio Ken
 
Bruce the Batman's reasoning, on top of the fact that Mewtwo is a psyhic type, and since Goku is an experienced martial artist, he'd probably classify as a Fighting type, giving him a natural advantage.
 
Why not? It's canon within Pokemon, and makes the fights a tiny bit more interesting with how types interact.
 
Its like saying the afterlife is the same across all fiction. Why would all of Goku´s moves be classified as pokemon types?


Is there a Canon Pokemon Move called "Kamehameha"? I dont think so.


Giving Goku´s moves a type is headcanon.
 
That is not the same thing in any way. Of course afterlifes are going to be different across all fiction because different verses.

The attribute of Goku's moves wouldnt suddenly change its all the same and nothing shows it being different than fighting type moves.

Name of move =/= being a different type. Thats like saying fireball jutsu in naruto isn't the same thing as flamethrower or fire spin. They are fire-based moves so they are the same.

Your best bet, if anything, is to make a CRT on this because thats how pokemon types are treated here. And even then I seriously doubt reasoning like that is gonna fly.
 
Um no. Im 99.99% sure ive seen cal say they dont apply types to people outside pokemon. You cant just give other characters weaknesses they dont have using inverse mechanics.
 
For instance here, Mewtwo's moves wouldnt be "super effective" on Goku. But if Goku had moves considered Bug or Dark, they'd be super effective against Mewtwo. Or if they're moves that Mewtwo's type is resistant against, then they wouldnt be effective.

Basically, the type resistances work defensively, not offensively.
 
LordAizenSama said:
The same rule applies.
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Since when?

Because literally all of our Pokemon profiles have resistances against [Insert Here] via [this] type. So it works when going against them, but not other opponents. Thats how we've been treating type resistances for the very very longest time here.

And no. Type resistances are very much canon, not game mechanics. Ask any pokemon expert here and they will tell you this, unless im missing something.
 
Kyle Ramos said:
Giving types to Goku´s moves its exactly like saying Goku has to wait for his turn to attack
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These 2 instances aren't related at all.

Type resistances aren't game mechanics. Turn based anything are.
 
So, would Seiya´s attacks be "Cosmo" type?

Or how would YOU classify them? "Fighting"?

Thats the thing, you cant just say Goku´s moves are Pokemon Moves.
 
... because we are a Indexing site. Versus battles are just on the side for fun. Of course they will be listed as having resistances when they only exist in their own verse, not some VsB multiverse.

Let me break it down for you why we dont use something as stupid as pokemon typing for versus matches outside pokemon.

Mega punch and mega kick is a normal move. Karate chop and low kick are fighting moves. Outside of pokemon there is no differential between the two. And thats the way it is.
 
if you said X has dark resistence so other verses using dark moves makes sense X has resistence to that, but if Y in pokemon resists fighting, other verses using punches means nothing as the pokemon surely wouldnt have resistence to physical strikes, here theres no way mewtwo resists gokus punches just because pokemon verse says so, goku doesnt play by pokemon rules like that
 
If they aren't able to be classified as a type, then they don't get classified, therefore they do their regular stuff. Simple. We don't slap on a type for everything, only on stuff that can be.

And whats the difference between Goku moves and Pokemon moves? Literally nothing. Both are techniques and both have related attributes. That is why Goku's moves would be considered fighting because of stuff like Aura Sphere, Focus Blast, etc. They're fighting energy, nothing else.
 
@Mania

Verse Equalization says hello, so no. That isnt happening.

@LordAizen

Then you must have missed, like, a majority of our pokemon vs threads. No offense, but the exact opposite of what you are saying is how we apply them in matches. Literally.
 
>Literally Nothing.

There is so much wrong with this, you should realize this yourself.


Look up Goku´s abilities, if there is just ONE skill that is not 100% represented as a Pokemon move, you should just drop the subject.


>They are fighting energy, nothing else.

same as above. Ki is life energy, alongisde other things.

And lets just not get into God Ki or Ultra Instinct.


Just drop it.
 
Which is what exactly? You must explain yourself.

And Aura in pokemon is life energy as well (that plus infinity energy). Thats completely the same thing as KI.
 
ProfessorKukui4Life said:
Then you must have missed, like, a majority of our pokemon vs threads. No offense, but the exact opposite of what you are saying is how we apply them in matches. Literally.
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Probably. Because theres stupid nonsense like this that seems to be acceptable, I try avoid pokemon threads. Pokemon gets away with quite a lot.

Though id rather see cals reply.
 
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