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Son Goku vs Mewtwo (Read OP)

LordAizenSama said:
Probably. Because theres stupid nonsense like this that seems to be acceptable. Pokemon gets away with quite a lot.

Though id rather see cals reply.
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Then why not make a CRT to explain your issues with this? Thats how things go here. If we have issues with something, we make a CRT to note them out or we leave it alone. It wouldnt be acceptable otherwise.
 
Kyle Ramos said:
Just drop it, man.
Seriously.
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No, I won't "drop it". You have yet to actually explain why they are different, only complaining about something that has long been accepted by many of us.

So either explain why they are different or no dice.
 
Fine, i guess there is just no reasoning with you.


Ki is a energy force for Dragon Ball Characters take give the characters the ability to manipulate to do various techniques, which can amply power, strenght, speed, durability and more, which inlcude healing, mind reading, flying, etc.


Ki alone would cover the move "Fly", which is a Flying type move, Some Psycho or mental attacks for the Psychic type pokes, and tons more.

Now, you should also apologize to me for your rude behaviour AND drop it.

>"Ki is just like Aura! THEY ARE THE SAME!"

Show me Lucario healing ppl, launching invisible blasts, mind reading and flying.
 
Goku uses focus energy to get his crit ratio up, does 4x damage using fly super effective critical hit mewtwo fainted amirite

Dont worry guys it's verse equalisation.
 
1.) I wasn't being rude to you. If anything you are the one who is being rude to me, telling me to "drop it" or speaking to me in a rude tone ("just no reasoning with you" ?). No hard feelings intended of course, and I hope we can look past it, but if anyone was speaking out of line it was you.

2.) It being able to be used as different usuages doesnt change the fact its still energy like that of Pokemon's. Those usuages would simply be classified as a type, so if someone with KI tried using TK, it'd be psychic as you said. Anything that can't be given a type wouldnt because it'd be ridiculous otherwise. And what? Lucario doesnt need to do what KI does (sans firing energy attacks) to make Aura the same as KI. One simply has more usuages, thats it.
 
There you have it.

You either drop the Pokemon Move classiication nonsense or give Goku that 4 times the damage boost. Oh, and consider him a Flying Normal Fighting Psychic Type mon.


And to top it all off, after this, im gonna make a Goku Black vs Mewtwo Thread, because he would be a "Dark" Type, he would be absolutely inmune to all of Mewtwo´s attacks.
 
Also, thats not how pokemon types work.

Using an attribute move =/= BEING the attribute of said move.

But if you have any more complaints, you'll make a CRT about it or drop it. Don't want to derail Cal's thread any more than it has.
 
if this is stated to be a rule that people from other verses who fight pokemon verse has most of their skills automatically changed to fighting type cause punches and kicks, then someone should open a thread to discuss this further for future reference, im fine with resistences to sa dark, light, whatever else that is elemental, but resistence to physical strikes because its punches and kicks makes no sense.

PS: the focus energy x4 damage fly goku made me laugh more than it should
 
Mania568 said:
if this is stated to be a rule that people from other verses who fight pokemon verse has most of their skills automatically changed to fighting type cause punches and kicks, then someone should open a thread to discuss this further for future reference, im fine with resistences to sa dark, light, whatever else that is elemental, but resistence to physical strikes because its punches and kicks makes no sense.
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Im fairly certain its evaluated on a case by case basis.

Besides, why would it be any different than fighting? If it's literally just physical strikes there's no reason why it wouldn't be that, unless it involved additional effects that cannot be type classified.
 
Too bad him "flying" isn't even a move, just a usuage via KI and both are in the same tier so good luck with using super effectiveness by itself to get rid of Mewtwo, who has other hax to stop that.
 
Dont worry @ProfessorKukui I accept it now. Ive seen the error of my ways.

Goku uses extreme speed because hes really fast so hes guaranteed to hit first even if it is Speed equalised because it has priority, mewtwo flinched so it couldn't move so goku uses focus energy to increase his energy/crit ratio and he flies mewtwo to death via super effective critical hits.
 
Also Goku forgot what he was eating for dinner so his special defense sharply rises to no sell mewtwos psychic attacks.
 
LordAizenSama said:
Dont worry @ProfessorKukui I accept it now. Ive seen the error of my ways.
Goku uses extreme speed because hes really fast so hes guaranteed to hit first even if it is Speed equalised because it has priority, mewtwo flinched so it couldn't move so goku uses focus energy to increase his energy/crit ratio and he flies mewtwo to death via super effective critical hits.
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Sorry, but is this sarcasm directed against me? Because if so, I don't appreciate being treated like this at all.
 
Is weird that the discussion moderators don't say anything about this, I want to know if Goku's abilities can be considered fighting type.
 
Therefir said:
Is weird that the discussion moderators don't say anything about this, I want to know if Goku's abilities can be considered fighting type.
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Weekly already said that what i've been saying here is 100% correct so it gurantees the other mods would say that as well, or else this wouldnt be a thing since, like, forever.
 
So yeah, like we said above.


Extreme Speed, Mewtwo Flinches, Focus Attack, Fly. Goku Wins.


If you wanna use game mechanics, go all in.
 
Except for the last time, it isn't game mechanics. Type resistances are 100% canon, we accept it as that, have always accept it as that, and that is that.
 
Type advantages are too. So "Normal" Attacks and Flying still kills Mewtwo.


Anyways, remember when Goku left Gohan fight Cell alone? Thats pretty "dark" to me, wouldnt you say?
 
Im using the type advantages and verse equalisation. If you want to revise it you need to make a CRT. That's how things have always been done around here.
 
@Kyle

>Assumes normal is super effective on Mewtwo period

@LordAizen

Yeah im not appreciating the sarcasim from you, and i'd like for you to cease it please.
 
after seeing the reasons above goku win this one, focus energy and fly or possible sky attack that is even stronger, even if mewtwo doesnt go down there he has his fire attack kamehameha to finish him
 
I vote for Mewtwo. Goku is only 5-B with a transformation that puts a huge strain on his body while Mega Mewtwo is vastly superior to it's base form, who's already 5-B.
 
if everything has to have a type to fight a pokemon wouldnt kamehame be fire? seems the most correct type here.
 
I guess Kamehameha is a Fighting type.


But once again, Extreme Speed makes Mewtwo Flinch, Focus Attack Guarantees Double damage, Goku uses Fly and kills Mewtwo.


Goku can also forget what he ate that morning, so that increases his defenses greatly.
 
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